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The most expensive medical industry in the world raises questions about their willingness to over charge consumers. Which is why they should be put out of business for ethical violations and fraud!

  Thursday, June 25, 2009
 
Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid, according to a report released yesterday by the staff of the Senate Commerce Committee.
This Story
 
The report was part of a multi-pronged assault on the credibility of private insurers by Commerce Committee Chairman  John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.). It came at a time when Rockefeller, President Obama and others are seeking to offer a public alternative to private health plans as part of broad health-care reform legislation. Health insurers are doing everything they can to block the public option.
 
At a committee hearing yesterday, three health-care specialists testified that insurers go to great lengths to avoid responsibility for sick people, use deliberately incomprehensible documents to mislead consumers about their benefits, and sell "junk" policies that do not cover needed care. Rockefeller said he was exploring "why consumers get such a raw deal from their insurance companies."
 
 
The star witness at the hearing was a former public relations executive for major health insurers whose testimony boiled down to this: Don't trust the insurers.
 
"The industry and its backers are using fear tactics, as they did in 1994, to tar a transparent and accountable -- publicly accountable -- health-care option," said Wendell Potter, who until early last year was vice president for corporate communications at the big insurer Cigna.
 
Potter said he worries "that the industry's charm offensive, which is the most visible part of duplicitous and well-financed PR and lobbying campaigns, may well shape reform in a way that benefits Wall Street far more than average Americans."
 
Insurers make paperwork confusing because "they realize that people will just simply give up and not pursue it" if they think they have been shortchanged, Potter said.
 
More on this story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401636.html

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merrill wrote: The most expensive medical industry in the world raises questions about their willingness to over charge consumers. Which is why they should be put out of business for ethical violations and fraud!

  Thursday, June 25, 2009
 
Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid, according to a report released yesterday by the staff of the Senate Commerce Committee.
This Story
 
The report was part of a multi-pronged assault on the credibility of private insurers by Commerce Committee Chairman  John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.). It came at a time when Rockefeller, President Obama and others are seeking to offer a public alternative to private health plans as part of broad health-care reform legislation. Health insurers are doing everything they can to block the public option.
 
At a committee hearing yesterday, three health-care specialists testified that insurers go to great lengths to avoid responsibility for sick people, use deliberately incomprehensible documents to mislead consumers about their benefits, and sell "junk" policies that do not cover needed care. Rockefeller said he was exploring "why consumers get such a raw deal from their insurance companies."
 
 
The star witness at the hearing was a former public relations executive for major health insurers whose testimony boiled down to this: Don't trust the insurers.
 
"The industry and its backers are using fear tactics, as they did in 1994, to tar a transparent and accountable -- publicly accountable -- health-care option," said Wendell Potter, who until early last year was vice president for corporate communications at the big insurer Cigna.
 
Potter said he worries "that the industry's charm offensive, which is the most visible part of duplicitous and well-financed PR and lobbying campaigns, may well shape reform in a way that benefits Wall Street far more than average Americans."
 
Insurers make paperwork confusing because "they realize that people will just simply give up and not pursue it" if they think they have been shortchanged, Potter said.
 
More on this story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401636.html

Gov't is going -- TO FORCE

States and People to be in their RATIONED Health Care Plans BY

Forcing the Health Care Companies out of Business and  INTO THEIR RATIONED HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.

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merrill wrote: The most expensive medical industry in the world raises questions about their willingness to over charge consumers. Which is why they should be put out of business for ethical violations and fraud!

  Thursday, June 25, 2009
 
Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid, according to a report released yesterday by the staff of the Senate Commerce Committee.
This Story
 
The report was part of a multi-pronged assault on the credibility of private insurers by Commerce Committee Chairman  John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.). It came at a time when Rockefeller, President Obama and others are seeking to offer a public alternative to private health plans as part of broad health-care reform legislation. Health insurers are doing everything they can to block the public option.
 
At a committee hearing yesterday, three health-care specialists testified that insurers go to great lengths to avoid responsibility for sick people, use deliberately incomprehensible documents to mislead consumers about their benefits, and sell "junk" policies that do not cover needed care. Rockefeller said he was exploring "why consumers get such a raw deal from their insurance companies."
 
 
The star witness at the hearing was a former public relations executive for major health insurers whose testimony boiled down to this: Don't trust the insurers.
 
"The industry and its backers are using fear tactics, as they did in 1994, to tar a transparent and accountable -- publicly accountable -- health-care option," said Wendell Potter, who until early last year was vice president for corporate communications at the big insurer Cigna.
 
Potter said he worries "that the industry's charm offensive, which is the most visible part of duplicitous and well-financed PR and lobbying campaigns, may well shape reform in a way that benefits Wall Street far more than average Americans."
 
Insurers make paperwork confusing because "they realize that people will just simply give up and not pursue it" if they think they have been shortchanged, Potter said.
 
More on this story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401636.html

I trust insurance companies far more than I do DC.  Barney Franks, Chris Dodd, Charlie  Wrangle....give me  a break.

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oleman wrote: merrill wrote: The most expensive medical industry in the world raises questions about their willingness to over charge consumers. Which is why they should be put out of business for ethical violations and fraud!

  Thursday, June 25, 2009
 
Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid, according to a report released yesterday by the staff of the Senate Commerce Committee.
This Story
 
The report was part of a multi-pronged assault on the credibility of private insurers by Commerce Committee Chairman  John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.). It came at a time when Rockefeller, President Obama and others are seeking to offer a public alternative to private health plans as part of broad health-care reform legislation. Health insurers are doing everything they can to block the public option.
 
At a committee hearing yesterday, three health-care specialists testified that insurers go to great lengths to avoid responsibility for sick people, use deliberately incomprehensible documents to mislead consumers about their benefits, and sell "junk" policies that do not cover needed care. Rockefeller said he was exploring "why consumers get such a raw deal from their insurance companies."
 
 
The star witness at the hearing was a former public relations executive for major health insurers whose testimony boiled down to this: Don't trust the insurers.
 
"The industry and its backers are using fear tactics, as they did in 1994, to tar a transparent and accountable -- publicly accountable -- health-care option," said Wendell Potter, who until early last year was vice president for corporate communications at the big insurer Cigna.
 
Potter said he worries "that the industry's charm offensive, which is the most visible part of duplicitous and well-financed PR and lobbying campaigns, may well shape reform in a way that benefits Wall Street far more than average Americans."
 
Insurers make paperwork confusing because "they realize that people will just simply give up and not pursue it" if they think they have been shortchanged, Potter said.
 
More on this story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401636.html

I trust insurance companies far more than I do DC.  Barney Franks, Chris Dodd, Charlie  Wrangle....give me  a break.
You were recently ripped off by the medical insurance industry....

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oleman wrote: merrill wrote: The most expensive medical industry in the world raises questions about their willingness to over charge consumers. Which is why they should be put out of business for ethical violations and fraud!

  Thursday, June 25, 2009
 
Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid, according to a report released yesterday by the staff of the Senate Commerce Committee.
This Story
 
The report was part of a multi-pronged assault on the credibility of private insurers by Commerce Committee Chairman  John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.). It came at a time when Rockefeller, President Obama and others are seeking to offer a public alternative to private health plans as part of broad health-care reform legislation. Health insurers are doing everything they can to block the public option.
 
At a committee hearing yesterday, three health-care specialists testified that insurers go to great lengths to avoid responsibility for sick people, use deliberately incomprehensible documents to mislead consumers about their benefits, and sell "junk" policies that do not cover needed care. Rockefeller said he was exploring "why consumers get such a raw deal from their insurance companies."
 
 
The star witness at the hearing was a former public relations executive for major health insurers whose testimony boiled down to this: Don't trust the insurers.
 
"The industry and its backers are using fear tactics, as they did in 1994, to tar a transparent and accountable -- publicly accountable -- health-care option," said Wendell Potter, who until early last year was vice president for corporate communications at the big insurer Cigna.
 
Potter said he worries "that the industry's charm offensive, which is the most visible part of duplicitous and well-financed PR and lobbying campaigns, may well shape reform in a way that benefits Wall Street far more than average Americans."
 
Insurers make paperwork confusing because "they realize that people will just simply give up and not pursue it" if they think they have been shortchanged, Potter said.
 
More on this story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401636.html

I trust insurance companies far more than I do DC.  Barney Franks, Chris Dodd, Charlie  Wrangle....give me  a break.
If 3 million healthy insured dropped their policies in the next two weeks they would save thousands
Makes dollars and sense to me. More money to invest smart instead of supporting high rollin executives and shareholders or maybe go to Jamaica for a few weeks instead of supporting high rollin executives and shareholders.

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rich236 wrote: merrill wrote: The most expensive medical industry in the world raises questions about their willingness to over charge consumers. Which is why they should be put out of business for ethical violations and fraud!

  Thursday, June 25, 2009
 
Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid, according to a report released yesterday by the staff of the Senate Commerce Committee.
This Story
 
The report was part of a multi-pronged assault on the credibility of private insurers by Commerce Committee Chairman  John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.). It came at a time when Rockefeller, President Obama and others are seeking to offer a public alternative to private health plans as part of broad health-care reform legislation. Health insurers are doing everything they can to block the public option.
 
At a committee hearing yesterday, three health-care specialists testified that insurers go to great lengths to avoid responsibility for sick people, use deliberately incomprehensible documents to mislead consumers about their benefits, and sell "junk" policies that do not cover needed care. Rockefeller said he was exploring "why consumers get such a raw deal from their insurance companies."
 
 
The star witness at the hearing was a former public relations executive for major health insurers whose testimony boiled down to this: Don't trust the insurers.
 
"The industry and its backers are using fear tactics, as they did in 1994, to tar a transparent and accountable -- publicly accountable -- health-care option," said Wendell Potter, who until early last year was vice president for corporate communications at the big insurer Cigna.
 
Potter said he worries "that the industry's charm offensive, which is the most visible part of duplicitous and well-financed PR and lobbying campaigns, may well shape reform in a way that benefits Wall Street far more than average Americans."
 
Insurers make paperwork confusing because "they realize that people will just simply give up and not pursue it" if they think they have been shortchanged, Potter said.
 
More on this story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401636.html

Gov't is going -- TO FORCE

States and People to be in their RATIONED Health Care Plans BY

Forcing the Health Care Companies out of Business and  INTO THEIR RATIONED HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
If 3 million healthy insured dropped their policies in the next two weeks not only would they save thousands of dollars the insurance industry would faint in disbelief that this many people actually are awake and give a damn.

Then they could afford to pay out of pocket.

Sooner or later another few million would do the same. Suddenly all of america would realize the medical insurance business has been doing nothing but making tons and tons of profit by way of fear mongering.

At that point all would see that america could have insurance at a much much lower rate such as 225 a month for the best coverage in the world that includes the entire family.

Makes dollars and sense to me. More money to invest smart instead of supporting high rollin executives and shareholders.

Maybe get on with that home improvement with cash instead of borrowing from the bank.....just maybe.

Maybe go to Jamaica for a few weeks instead of supporting high rollin executives and shareholders.

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    How much is the net % in profits in the "evil insurance industry," according to what you've read? 'Tain't much, you know... Around 2%. 

    You really shouldn't be reading those MoveOn.org ads expecting to get an accurate picture.  :P

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cwa1991 wrote: merrill:

    How much is the net % in profits in the "evil insurance industry," according to what you've read? 'Tain't much, you know... Around 2%. 

    You really shouldn't be reading those MoveOn.org ads expecting to get an accurate picture.  :P

You should not be reading that propaganda from the most expensive medical insurance on the planet. Radio news was saying in reality it is close to 25%.

Expect at least a 25% increase in costs for 2010. Shareholders and consumers are getting ripped off. The industry has spent more than $380 million health care and shareholder dollars thus far to stop reform which is reckless management and theft of health care dollars.

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Bump in the name of erasing the screwing of consumers and eliminating corruption!

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merrill wrote: cwa1991 wrote: merrill:

    How much is the net % in profits in the "evil insurance industry," according to what you've read? 'Tain't much, you know... Around 2%. 

    You really shouldn't be reading those MoveOn.org ads expecting to get an accurate picture.  :P

You should not be reading that propaganda from the most expensive medical insurance on the planet. Radio news was saying in reality it is close to 25%.

Expect at least a 25% increase in costs for 2010. Shareholders and consumers are getting ripped off. The industry has spent more than $380 million health care and shareholder dollars thus far to stop reform which is reckless management and theft of health care dollars.

Now  - The Rest of the Story

The Democrat Party will not let Insurers cross state line -- BUT THE GOV'T WILL

And the Fraud Rate for GOV'T Medicare-Medicaid --  Approaching 25% ALREADY

And then we get RATIONING  -- by the GOV't-- How ELSE CAN THEY CONTROL gov't HEALTH CARE FEES.

The TRUTH --   THE Democrat Party wants premiums  -- to skyrocket.

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Suddenly all of america will realize the most expensive medical insurance business on the planet has been doing nothing but making tons and tons of profit:
* to waste buying legislators
* to spend paying a huge staff to say NO to legitimate health care needs
* to spend supporting a complicated system that which keeps consumers confused
* to spend supporting a complicated system that gets away with over charging its' customers
At that point all would see that america could have insurance at a much much lower rate such as 225 a month for the best coverage in the world that includes the entire family.
Makes dollars and sense to me. More money to invest smart instead of supporting high rollin executives and shareholders.
Maybe get on with that home improvement with cash instead of borrowing from the bank…..just maybe.
Maybe go to Jamaica for a few weeks instead of supporting high rollin executives and shareholders.

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oleman wrote: merrill wrote: The most expensive medical industry in the world raises questions about their willingness to over charge consumers. Which is why they should be put out of business for ethical violations and fraud!

  Thursday, June 25, 2009
 
Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid, according to a report released yesterday by the staff of the Senate Commerce Committee.
This Story
 
The report was part of a multi-pronged assault on the credibility of private insurers by Commerce Committee Chairman  John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.). It came at a time when Rockefeller, President Obama and others are seeking to offer a public alternative to private health plans as part of broad health-care reform legislation. Health insurers are doing everything they can to block the public option.
 
At a committee hearing yesterday, three health-care specialists testified that insurers go to great lengths to avoid responsibility for sick people, use deliberately incomprehensible documents to mislead consumers about their benefits, and sell "junk" policies that do not cover needed care. Rockefeller said he was exploring "why consumers get such a raw deal from their insurance companies."
 
 
The star witness at the hearing was a former public relations executive for major health insurers whose testimony boiled down to this: Don't trust the insurers.
 
"The industry and its backers are using fear tactics, as they did in 1994, to tar a transparent and accountable -- publicly accountable -- health-care option," said Wendell Potter, who until early last year was vice president for corporate communications at the big insurer Cigna.
 
Potter said he worries "that the industry's charm offensive, which is the most visible part of duplicitous and well-financed PR and lobbying campaigns, may well shape reform in a way that benefits Wall Street far more than average Americans."
 
Insurers make paperwork confusing because "they realize that people will just simply give up and not pursue it" if they think they have been shortchanged, Potter said.
 
More on this story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401636.html

I trust insurance companies far more than I do DC.  Barney Franks, Chris Dodd, Charlie  Wrangle....give me  a break.

I agree with any private company you get what you CHOOSE to pay for, with DC you get whatever the "federal majority" and Congress (people a thousand miles away) choose to shove down your throat and force you to pay for.

The difference between them 2 is so fundamental its like night and day, as it is the definition of the difference between freedom and tyranny.


I can't believe democrats don't see that difference...
Its just amazing to me, particularly sense they have of frequently complained about the consequence of having to live under the conservative choices in government shoved down their throat.

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  "Dr. David Himmelstein, the lead author of the study and an Associate Professor of Medicine at Harvard commented: "Unless you're Bill Gates you're just one serious illness away from bankruptcy. Most of the medically bankrupt were average Americans who happened to get sick."
 
 
Today's health insurance policies -- with high deductibles, co-pays, and many exclusions -- offer little protection during a serious illness. Uncovered medical bills averaged $13,460 for those with private insurance at the start of their illness. People with cancer had average medical debts of $35,878.
 
 
"The paradox is that the costliest health system in the world performs so poorly. We waste one-third of every health care dollar on insurance bureaucracy and profits while two million people go bankrupt annually and we leave 45 million uninsured" said Dr. Quentin Young, national coordinator of Physicians for a National Health Program.
 
 
"With national health insurance ('Medicare for All'), we could provide comprehensive, lifelong coverage to all Americans for the same amount we are spending now and end the cruelty of ruining families financially when they get sick."
 
 
Read more: http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/bankruptcy_study.html#ixzz0IQKZLHHh&C

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Suddenly all of america will realize the most expensive medical insurance business on the planet has been doing nothing but making tons and tons of profit:
* to waste buying legislators
* to spend paying a huge staff to say NO to legitimate health care needs
* to spend supporting a complicated system that which keeps consumers confused
* to spend supporting a complicated system that gets away with over charging its' customers


At that point all would see that america could have insurance at a much much lower rate such as 225 a month for the best coverage in the world that includes the entire family.


Makes dollars and sense to me. More money to invest smart instead of supporting high rollin executives and shareholders.

Maybe get on with that home improvement with cash instead of borrowing from the bank…..just maybe.

Maybe go to Jamaica for a few weeks instead of supporting high rollin executives and shareholders.

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rich236 wrote: merrill wrote: cwa1991 wrote: merrill:

    How much is the net % in profits in the "evil insurance industry," according to what you've read? 'Tain't much, you know... Around 2%. 

    You really shouldn't be reading those MoveOn.org ads expecting to get an accurate picture.  :P

You should not be reading that propaganda from the most expensive medical insurance on the planet. Radio news was saying in reality it is close to 25%.

Expect at least a 25% increase in costs for 2010. Shareholders and consumers are getting ripped off. The industry has spent more than $380 million health care and shareholder dollars thus far to stop reform which is reckless management and theft of health care dollars.

Now  - The Rest of the Story

The Democrat Party will not let Insurers cross state line -- BUT THE GOV'T WILL

And the Fraud Rate for GOV'T Medicare-Medicaid --  Approaching 25% ALREADY

And then we get RATIONING  -- by the GOV't-- How ELSE CAN THEY CONTROL gov't HEALTH CARE FEES.

The TRUTH --   THE Democrat Party wants premiums  -- to skyrocket.


The Democrats total Answer to Cost Containment  -- RATIONING

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    How much is the net % in profits in the "evil insurance industry," according to what you've read? 'Tain't much, you know... Around 2%. 

    You really shouldn't be reading those MoveOn.org ads expecting to get an accurate picture.  :P

You should not be reading that propaganda from the most expensive medical insurance on the planet. Radio news was saying in reality it is close to 25%.

Expect at least a 25% increase in costs for 2010. Shareholders and consumers are getting ripped off. The industry has spent more than $380 million health care and shareholder dollars thus far to stop reform which is reckless management and theft of health care dollars.

Now  - The Rest of the Story

The Democrat Party will not let Insurers cross state line -- BUT THE GOV'T WILL

And the Fraud Rate for GOV'T Medicare-Medicaid --  Approaching 25% ALREADY

And then we get RATIONING  -- by the GOV't-- How ELSE CAN THEY CONTROL gov't HEALTH CARE FEES.

The TRUTH --   THE Democrat Party wants premiums  -- to skyrocket.


The Democrats total Answer to Cost Containment  -- RATIONING


The health insurance industry cause the ultimate in rationing.  Wait times of........FOREVER!

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MadHabber wrote: rich236 wrote: rich236 wrote: merrill wrote: cwa1991 wrote: merrill:


    How much is the net % in profits in the "evil insurance industry," according to what you've read? 'Tain't much, you know... Around 2%. 

    You really shouldn't be reading those MoveOn.org ads expecting to get an accurate picture.  :P

You should not be reading that propaganda from the most expensive medical insurance on the planet. Radio news was saying in reality it is close to 25%.

Expect at least a 25% increase in costs for 2010. Shareholders and consumers are getting ripped off. The industry has spent more than $380 million health care and shareholder dollars thus far to stop reform which is reckless management and theft of health care dollars.

Now  - The Rest of the Story

The Democrat Party will not let Insurers cross state line -- BUT THE GOV'T WILL

And the Fraud Rate for GOV'T Medicare-Medicaid --  Approaching 25% ALREADY

And then we get RATIONING  -- by the GOV't-- How ELSE CAN THEY CONTROL gov't HEALTH CARE FEES.

The TRUTH --   THE Democrat Party wants premiums  -- to skyrocket.


The Democrats total Answer to Cost Containment  -- RATIONING


The health insurance industry cause the ultimate in rationing.  Wait times of........FOREVER!


and our Democrat Party Plan is  -- DENIED, DENIED and DENIED  -Unless,  it is - a Drug Pill
You are about to find this out  -- the Hard Way

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    How much is the net % in profits in the "evil insurance industry," according to what you've read? 'Tain't much, you know... Around 2%. 

    You really shouldn't be reading those MoveOn.org ads expecting to get an accurate picture.  :P

You should not be reading that propaganda from the most expensive medical insurance on the planet. Radio news was saying in reality it is close to 25%.

Expect at least a 25% increase in costs for 2010. Shareholders and consumers are getting ripped off. The industry has spent more than $380 million health care and shareholder dollars thus far to stop reform which is reckless management and theft of health care dollars.

Now  - The Rest of the Story

The Democrat Party will not let Insurers cross state line -- BUT THE GOV'T WILL

And the Fraud Rate for GOV'T Medicare-Medicaid --  Approaching 25% ALREADY

And then we get RATIONING  -- by the GOV't-- How ELSE CAN THEY CONTROL gov't HEALTH CARE FEES.

The TRUTH --   THE Democrat Party wants premiums  -- to skyrocket.


The Democrats total Answer to Cost Containment  -- RATIONING


The health insurance industry cause the ultimate in rationing.  Wait times of........FOREVER!


and our Democrat Party Plan is  -- DENIED, DENIED and DENIED  -Unless,  it is - a Drug Pill
You are about to find this out  -- the Hard Way
Rich, I'm Canadian, I'm never denied healthcare because of cost. EVER.  You have no proof but scare tactics.  That's all you have. 

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Over charging is a worthy reason to cancel medical insurance. How many times should anyone absorb this fraudulent behavior?

Canceling policies by the millions will get some attention,send stock values down the tubes
thus elected officials will dump their stocks. Then the USA will get National Health Insurance.

Massive cancellation of insurance policies will place consumers in the drivers seat.


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MadHabber wrote: rich236 wrote: MadHabber wrote: rich236 wrote: rich236 wrote: merrill wrote: cwa1991 wrote: merrill:



    How much is the net % in profits in the "evil insurance industry," according to what you've read? 'Tain't much, you know... Around 2%. 

    You really shouldn't be reading those MoveOn.org ads expecting to get an accurate picture.  :P

You should not be reading that propaganda from the most expensive medical insurance on the planet. Radio news was saying in reality it is close to 25%.

Expect at least a 25% increase in costs for 2010. Shareholders and consumers are getting ripped off. The industry has spent more than $380 million health care and shareholder dollars thus far to stop reform which is reckless management and theft of health care dollars.

Now  - The Rest of the Story

The Democrat Party will not let Insurers cross state line -- BUT THE GOV'T WILL

And the Fraud Rate for GOV'T Medicare-Medicaid --  Approaching 25% ALREADY

And then we get RATIONING  -- by the GOV't-- How ELSE CAN THEY CONTROL gov't HEALTH CARE FEES.

The TRUTH --   THE Democrat Party wants premiums  -- to skyrocket.


The Democrats total Answer to Cost Containment  -- RATIONING


The health insurance industry cause the ultimate in rationing.  Wait times of........FOREVER!


and our Democrat Party Plan is  -- DENIED, DENIED and DENIED  -Unless,  it is - a Drug Pill
You are about to find this out  -- the Hard Way
Rich, I'm Canadian, I'm never denied healthcare because of cost. EVER.  You have no proof but scare tactics.  That's all you have. 
WELL, HOW ABOUT THE FOLLOWING EXAMPLE  -- WE already are seeing


Obama, the Child Like President and the Democrat Party CANNOT Supply the Nation with a Flu Vaccine,
  -- they have know about for a year now.

and you Expect them to run GOV'T health Care ?
Perhaps -- we are Just getting an early VIEW -- of Gov't Rationing.


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