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MadHabber
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 08:48 pm |
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rich236 wrote: MadHabber wrote: rich236 wrote: MadHabber wrote: rich236 wrote: rich236 wrote: merrill wrote: cwa1991 wrote: merrill:
How much is the net % in profits in the "evil insurance industry," according to what you've read? 'Tain't much, you know... Around 2%.
You really shouldn't be reading those MoveOn.org ads expecting to get an accurate picture. 
You should not be reading that propaganda from the most expensive medical insurance on the planet. Radio news was saying in reality it is close to 25%.
Expect at least a 25% increase in costs for 2010. Shareholders and consumers are getting ripped off. The industry has spent more than $380 million health care and shareholder dollars thus far to stop reform which is reckless management and theft of health care dollars.
Now - The Rest of the Story
The Democrat Party will not let Insurers cross state line -- BUT THE GOV'T WILL
And the Fraud Rate for GOV'T Medicare-Medicaid -- Approaching 25% ALREADY
And then we get RATIONING -- by the GOV't-- How ELSE CAN THEY CONTROL gov't HEALTH CARE FEES.
The TRUTH -- THE Democrat Party wants premiums -- to skyrocket.
The Democrats total Answer to Cost Containment -- RATIONING
The health insurance industry cause the ultimate in rationing. Wait times of........FOREVER!
and our Democrat Party Plan is -- DENIED, DENIED and DENIED -Unless, it is - a Drug Pill
You are about to find this out -- the Hard Way
Rich, I'm Canadian, I'm never denied healthcare because of cost. EVER. You have no proof but scare tactics. That's all you have.
WELL, HOW ABOUT THE FOLLOWING EXAMPLE -- WE already are seeing
Obama, the Child Like President and the Democrat Party CANNOT Supply the Nation with a Flu Vaccine,
-- they have know about for a year now.
and you Expect them to run GOV'T health Care ?
Perhaps -- we are Just getting an early VIEW -- of Gov't Rationing.
No nation has to this point. I believe, per capita, Canada has supplied the most but that has little to do with our gov't. Glaxo supplies Canada, so we are at the mercy of how fast pharma can produce it. No different for Bammer.
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rich236
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 09:01 pm |
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MadHabber wrote: rich236 wrote: MadHabber wrote: rich236 wrote: MadHabber wrote: rich236 wrote: rich236 wrote: merrill wrote: cwa1991 wrote: merrill:
How much is the net % in profits in the "evil insurance industry," according to what you've read? 'Tain't much, you know... Around 2%.
You really shouldn't be reading those MoveOn.org ads expecting to get an accurate picture.
You should not be reading that propaganda from the most expensive medical insurance on the planet. Radio news was saying in reality it is close to 25%.
Expect at least a 25% increase in costs for 2010. Shareholders and consumers are getting ripped off. The industry has spent more than $380 million health care and shareholder dollars thus far to stop reform which is reckless management and theft of health care dollars.
Now - The Rest of the Story
The Democrat Party will not let Insurers cross state line -- BUT THE GOV'T WILL
And the Fraud Rate for GOV'T Medicare-Medicaid -- Approaching 25% ALREADY
And then we get RATIONING -- by the GOV't-- How ELSE CAN THEY CONTROL gov't HEALTH CARE FEES.
The TRUTH -- THE Democrat Party wants premiums -- to skyrocket.
The Democrats total Answer to Cost Containment -- RATIONING
The health insurance industry cause the ultimate in rationing. Wait times of........FOREVER!
and our Democrat Party Plan is -- DENIED, DENIED and DENIED -Unless, it is - a Drug Pill
You are about to find this out -- the Hard Way
Rich, I'm Canadian, I'm never denied healthcare because of cost. EVER. You have no proof but scare tactics. That's all you have.
WELL, HOW ABOUT THE FOLLOWING EXAMPLE -- WE already are seeing
Obama, the Child Like President and the Democrat Party CANNOT Supply the Nation with a Flu Vaccine,
-- they have know about for a year now.
and you Expect them to run GOV'T health Care ?
Perhaps -- we are Just getting an early VIEW -- of Gov't Rationing.
No nation has to this point. I believe, per capita, Canada has supplied the most but that has little to do with our gov't. Glaxo supplies Canada, so we are at the mercy of how fast pharma can produce it. No different for Bammer.
WRONG AGAIN -- History Lesson --
The Democrat Party made the Rules on how easy it is to Sue the Drug Makers.
This is why -- Making the Drugs Takes so long -- and WHY there are SO FEW COMPANY'S MAKING VACCINES.
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MadHabber
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 09:31 pm |
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rich236 wrote:
WRONG AGAIN -- History Lesson --
The Democrat Party made the Rules on how easy it is to Sue the Drug Makers.
This is why -- Making the Drugs Takes so long -- and WHY there are SO FEW COMPANY'S MAKING VACCINES.
Your argument doesn't hold water, as its a lot harder to sue companies in Canada, yet there is only one company making this vaccine here.
And when you say "wrong again", where was I wrong before??? Oh, that's right. I wasn't.
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rich236
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 11:22 pm |
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MadHabber wrote: rich236 wrote:
WRONG AGAIN -- History Lesson --
The Democrat Party made the Rules on how easy it is to Sue the Drug Makers.
This is why -- Making the Drugs Takes so long -- and WHY there are SO FEW COMPANY'S MAKING VACCINES.
Your argument doesn't hold water, as its a lot harder to sue companies in Canada, yet there is only one company making this vaccine here.
And when you say "wrong again", where was I wrong before??? Oh, that's right. I wasn't.
Oops and Lookie Here
The Wall Street Journal reports that costs could be driven up in the public option because of increased utilization of services by public option enrollees and that the "payment rates the government negotiates with health-care providers would, on average, be comparable to those paid by private insurers, eliminating a cost-saving advantage many Democrats aimed to give the plan.
Again - the history lesson shows us
When GOV't, the Democrat Party, and obama, the man-child, Gets involved -- COSTS GO UP
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MadHabber
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 02:07 am |
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rich236 wrote: MadHabber wrote: rich236 wrote:
WRONG AGAIN -- History Lesson --
The Democrat Party made the Rules on how easy it is to Sue the Drug Makers.
This is why -- Making the Drugs Takes so long -- and WHY there are SO FEW COMPANY'S MAKING VACCINES.
Your argument doesn't hold water, as its a lot harder to sue companies in Canada, yet there is only one company making this vaccine here.
And when you say "wrong again", where was I wrong before??? Oh, that's right. I wasn't.
Oops and Lookie Here
The Wall Street Journal reports that costs could be driven up in the public option because of increased utilization of services by public option enrollees and that the "payment rates the government negotiates with health-care providers would, on average, be comparable to those paid by private insurers, eliminating a cost-saving advantage many Democrats aimed to give the plan.
Again - the history lesson shows us
When GOV't, the Democrat Party, and obama, the man-child, Gets involved -- COSTS GO UP
There is no oops. Where did I claim, in any of statements, that gov't paid healthcare would be cheaper?? That's right, I didn't. OOOOOOPS!!!!!!!!
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merrill
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Posted: Fri Nov 13th, 2009 02:47 am |
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The Physicians' Proposal 
Marcia Angell, MD
Past Editor
New England
Journal of Medicine
We endorse a fundamental change in America's health care - the creation of a comprehensive National Health Insurance (NHI) Program. Such a program - which in essence would be an expanded and improved version of Medicare - would cover every American for all necessary medical care.
Click here to read the entire proposal (pdf)
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rich236
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Posted: Fri Nov 13th, 2009 05:34 pm |
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MadHabber wrote: rich236 wrote: MadHabber wrote: rich236 wrote:
WRONG AGAIN -- History Lesson --
The Democrat Party made the Rules on how easy it is to Sue the Drug Makers.
This is why -- Making the Drugs Takes so long -- and WHY there are SO FEW COMPANY'S MAKING VACCINES.
Your argument doesn't hold water, as its a lot harder to sue companies in Canada, yet there is only one company making this vaccine here.
And when you say "wrong again", where was I wrong before??? Oh, that's right. I wasn't.
Oops and Lookie Here
The Wall Street Journal reports that costs could be driven up in the public option because of increased utilization of services by public option enrollees and that the "payment rates the government negotiates with health-care providers would, on average, be comparable to those paid by private insurers, eliminating a cost-saving advantage many Democrats aimed to give the plan.
Again - the history lesson shows us
When GOV't, the Democrat Party, and obama, the man-child, Gets involved -- COSTS GO UP
There is no oops. Where did I claim, in any of statements, that gov't paid healthcare would be cheaper?? That's right, I didn't. OOOOOOPS!!!!!!!!
FINALLY a DEMOCRAT who admits when GOV'T Gets Involved -- COSTS GO UP !
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