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Slaol_121
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Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 12:40 pm |
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Ubuntu 9.10 - aka Karmic Koala - is taking the fight to Microsoft and its new Windows 7 operating system.
The Koala - due for its official release today - brings faster boot times, a revamped software installer, better disk encryption, online services, and quite a bit more to the popular Linux desktop.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/29/ubuntu_9_10_review/
http://www.ubuntu.com
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Super Cat
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 03:36 am |
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The Koala - due for its official release today - brings faster boot times, a revamped software installer, better disk encryption, online services, and quite a bit more to the popular Linux desktop.
And yet, they still couldn't come up with a better name for it.
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Lynne
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 02:27 pm |
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Slaol_121
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 05:39 pm |
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Super Cat wrote: The Koala - due for its official release today - brings faster boot times, a revamped software installer, better disk encryption, online services, and quite a bit more to the popular Linux desktop.
And yet, they still couldn't come up with a better name for it.
I agree with you that the names are a little lame. They would have done better to leave off the animal names... Karmic sounds better than Karmic Koala, lol.
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Slaol_121
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Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 06:41 pm |
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I personally use Linux Mint (based on Ubuntu). Yesterday I updated my repositories with the new Ubuntu ones and installed the new software. I also updated my Mint repository to the Mint 8 Helena edition.
The two biggest improvements I can see on my computer (Dell Inspiron 1525) are the faster startup times (12-15 seconds) and the improved audio playback. My particular model of Dell is notorious for having very weak volume during playback and this new edition of Ubuntu comes with an amplifier. Now my sound is loud and clear 
The new version of the Gnome Desktop also has a much more attractive look to it.
Overall, I'm quite impressed...
Screenshot:Attachment: Mint8Ubuntu910.gif (Downloaded 48 times)
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edro14
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 12:55 am |
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Slaol_121 wrote: I personally use Linux Mint (based on Ubuntu). Yesterday I updated my repositories with the new Ubuntu ones and installed the new software. I also updated my Mint repository to the Mint 8 Helena edition.
The two biggest improvements I can see on my computer (Dell Inspiron 1525) are the faster startup times (12-15 seconds) and the improved audio playback. My particular model of Dell is notorious for having very weak volume during playback and this new edition of Ubuntu comes with an amplifier. Now my sound is loud and clear
The new version of the Gnome Desktop also has a much more attractive look to it.
Overall, I'm quite impressed...
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Linux will never catch up to Windows...I don't give a rats petoot how pretty thet GUI looks!
Sorta like Apple's Icon an apple with a bite taken from, looked like someone bite into the wormhole!
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 01:13 am |
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| I read that it uses ext4 as the default file system. That confuses me, because apparently, ext4 fragments more easily than ext3. Yet, Ubuntu 9.10 doesn't come with a defragmenter. Although I work mostly in Windows, I have about a dozen Linux installations that I also manage. They all run ext2 because it doesn't use journaling. That makes it faster than ext3 or ext4. Even when I perform a new Linux installation, I choose ext2 as the file system. Last edited on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 01:18 am by jbuds
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Slaol_121
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 03:20 am |
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jbuds wrote:
I read that it uses ext4 as the default file system. That confuses me, because apparently, ext4 fragments more easily than ext3. Yet, Ubuntu 9.10 doesn't come with a defragmenter. Although I work mostly in Windows, I have about a dozen Linux installations that I also manage. They all run ext2 because it doesn't use journaling. That makes it faster than ext3 or ext4. Even when I perform a new Linux installation, I choose ext2 as the file system.
While I am slowly becoming more proficient at using Linux every day, your question is still above my level of understanding.
I did manage to find the following page which might hold answers for you:
http://kernelnewbies.org/Ext4
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jbuds
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 05:31 am |
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Slaol_121 wrote: jbuds wrote:
I read that it uses ext4 as the default file system. That confuses me, because apparently, ext4 fragments more easily than ext3. Yet, Ubuntu 9.10 doesn't come with a defragmenter. Although I work mostly in Windows, I have about a dozen Linux installations that I also manage. They all run ext2 because it doesn't use journaling. That makes it faster than ext3 or ext4. Even when I perform a new Linux installation, I choose ext2 as the file system.
While I am slowly becoming more proficient at using Linux every day, your question is still above my level of understanding.
I did manage to find the following page which might hold answers for you:
http://kernelnewbies.org/Ext4
It wasn't really a question. I was just complaining that Ubuntu 9.10 is using ext4 before it has a defragmentation utility. That doesn't make much sense to me. In fact, I never saw much reason to switch to ext3 when it was released in 2001, so I still use ext2. You just have to do a custom partitioning scheme when you install a new distro to get it.Last edited on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 05:32 am by jbuds
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Super Cat
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 09:27 am |
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Yet, Ubuntu 9.10 doesn't come with a defragmenter.
The ultimate declaration of confidence in an OS and probably a future source of consolation for those of us with the humbler Vista. With my faulty hard drive (waiting for the warranty to approach lapsing before sending it back in, I'm just that kind of person) and the necessary 4-5 attempts at installing software successfully due to the resulting crashes, defragging and registry repair are my best friends. 
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 04:20 pm |
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Super Cat wrote: Yet, Ubuntu 9.10 doesn't come with a defragmenter.
The ultimate declaration of confidence in an OS and probably a future source of consolation for those of us with the humbler Vista. With my faulty hard drive (waiting for the warranty to approach lapsing before sending it back in, I'm just that kind of person) and the necessary 4-5 attempts at installing software successfully due to the resulting crashes, defragging and registry repair are my best friends.
Uhm......
That has absolutely nothing to do with OS and everything to do with it being a P-O-S hard drive.
And of course, this is the absolute first time I have ever seen an expression of confidence for Microsoft based on the "it's easier to fix it" principle.
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Slaol_121
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 05:36 am |
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Here's an interesting post I found with regards to Defragging:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=c9a395a227e49e6e2aeee33618557104&p=8167977&postcount=14
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 09:40 am |
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| Apparently, there is a program for defragging ext4 drives, but it only works on ext4 files and was not considered stable enough for inclusion in 9.10: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/321528. They were having issues with data loss and free-space fragmentation, it seems. Last edited on Sat Nov 7th, 2009 09:42 am by jbuds
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Super Cat
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Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 02:37 am |
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DarkSoul1984 wrote: Super Cat wrote: Yet, Ubuntu 9.10 doesn't come with a defragmenter.
The ultimate declaration of confidence in an OS and probably a future source of consolation for those of us with the humbler Vista. With my faulty hard drive (waiting for the warranty to approach lapsing before sending it back in, I'm just that kind of person) and the necessary 4-5 attempts at installing software successfully due to the resulting crashes, defragging and registry repair are my best friends.
Uhm......
That has absolutely nothing to do with OS and everything to do with it being a P-O-S hard drive.
And of course, this is the absolute first time I have ever seen an expression of confidence for Microsoft based on the "it's easier to fix it" principle.
The OS is at least partly to blame, particularly before I got sp1...the system was highly unstable and crashed even without me attemping to press its parameters or installing anything. Now the crashes are only related to the classic hard drive issues or the transition to low-power mode (disabled that).
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Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 02:45 am |
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And of course, this is the absolute first time I have ever seen an expression of confidence for Microsoft based on the "it's easier to fix it" principle.
Hey, I'm hard on my systems, what can I say? I'd say that a lot of the time not spent sleeping or at school since I was 8 has been repairing problems I caused on computers I didn't own  ...and I've come to realize that problems are an inevitability if you actually do anything fun with your PC.
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