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Romney Rice 2012. Condi - ideal running mate for Mitt Romney

Postby peter dow » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:28 pm



Watch the Condoleezza Rice for President/VP video playlist on YouTube, beginning with Romney Rice 2012. Condi - "ideal running mate for Mitt Romney" (YouTube)

June 26, 2012. Condoleezza Rice is interviewed for CBS's "This Morning" by Erica Hill and Charlie Rose days after giving a well-received speech at Mitt Romney's weekend donors' meeting in Utah.

The CBS video is embedded in a background suggesting a possible "Romney - Rice 2012" Republican ticket for the United States Presidential elections and in support of that idea, the results of April 2012 polls indicating the percentage of U.S. voters with a favorable opinion of

Condoleezza Rice - 66%
Barack Obama - 54%
Mitt Romney - 40%

This is a link to the CBS report of the interview

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Remember folks, the VP pick is a tactical move to the center to attract independents to the ticket. So you need someone who appeals to all voters, all Americans in this case, not just the party base (although Condi is popular with the republican base and she was the most popular pick for VP with Republicans in a recent poll, and fired up Romney donors last weekend.)

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It remains the case that in the general election, the base has nowhere else to go but to back their party ticket. Independents have a choice and can switch either way. That's why they are called "independents". Condi has long been the most popular Republican with independents and all Americans, though a few Republicans might be more popular than Condi with the party base, that is of no use for the VP pick.

So it is poor party tactics to think the VP pick ought to be someone "to energise the base" (and risk alienating independents) like the Sarah Palin VP 2008 pick did, which was how McCain blew his 2008 run for president.
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Re: Romney Rice 2012. Condi - ideal running mate for Mitt Romney

Postby insidedge » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:37 pm

Below is a good article of the "why nots":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html
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Re: Romney Rice 2012. Condi - ideal running mate for Mitt Romney

Postby internet.unknown » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:42 pm

insidedge wrote:Below is a good article of the "why nots":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html


I voted for McCain because of Palin. Your analysis is incorrect. McCain lost because he was a wishy-washy aisle-hopping statist who refused to run an aggressive campaign.
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Re: Romney Rice 2012. Condi - ideal running mate for Mitt Romney

Postby insidedge » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:14 pm

internet.unknown wrote:
insidedge wrote:Below is a good article of the "why nots":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html


I voted for McCain because of Palin. Your analysis is incorrect. McCain lost because he was a wishy-washy aisle-hopping statist who refused to run an aggressive campaign.


Not sure what in my post you're responding to. I wasn't analyzing anything to do w/the last election cycle and/or the dynamics of the McCain-Palin republican ticket. My post was/is in response to the OP: "Romney Rice 2012. Condi - ideal running mate for Mitt Romney" and why Condi Rice will not run for vice-president, president or any other elected office: (i) she doesn't want to and means it; (ii) even if she were convinced by some, she's a policy person and not a politician; (iii) she favored Obama in the last election. This time around, 2012, she is assertively in Mitt Romney's corner. I think the article I posted is a good one that clears up why Rice would not be a good candidate to run on any republican ticket or for any republican office at this time. (But also, I believe she would be responsive to and could be fine in an appointed position).
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Re: Romney Rice 2012. Condi - ideal running mate for Mitt Romney

Postby ironbob2004 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:52 am

internet.unknown wrote:
insidedge wrote:Below is a good article of the "why nots":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html


I voted for McCain because of Palin. Your analysis is incorrect. McCain lost because he was a wishy-washy aisle-hopping statist who refused to run an aggressive campaign.


[rotflol] [rotflol] [rotflol] Good stuff. I refused to vote for John McSlime in the primary. Palin was the only reason I voted for that moron. Without her, I would have stayed away from the general like a few million other disgusted Republicans did. [rotflol] [rotflol]

I STILL don't think that the RNC has woken up to the fact that John McCain was easily the worst GOP candidate that's been put up in the last 50 years.
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Re: Romney Rice 2012. Condi - ideal running mate for Mitt Romney

Postby ironbob2004 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:54 am

internet.unknown wrote:
insidedge wrote:Below is a good article of the "why nots":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html


I voted for McCain because of Palin. Your analysis is incorrect. McCain lost because he was a wishy-washy aisle-hopping statist who refused to run an aggressive campaign.


BINGO. Little John was used to having his way in Arizona but his style doesn't fly when you're trying to convince the country that all your back-stabbing was just incidental.
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Re: Romney Rice 2012. Condi - ideal running mate for Mitt Romney

Postby thoughtless » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:29 am

internet.unknown wrote:
insidedge wrote:Below is a good article of the "why nots":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html


I voted for McCain because of Palin. Your analysis is incorrect. McCain lost because he was a wishy-washy aisle-hopping statist who refused to run an aggressive campaign.


Who would have done better than McCain?
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Re: Romney Rice 2012. Condi - ideal running mate for Mitt Romney

Postby thoughtless » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:31 am

ironbob2004 wrote:
internet.unknown wrote:
insidedge wrote:Below is a good article of the "why nots":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html


I voted for McCain because of Palin. Your analysis is incorrect. McCain lost because he was a wishy-washy aisle-hopping statist who refused to run an aggressive campaign.


[rotflol] [rotflol] [rotflol] Good stuff. I refused to vote for John McSlime in the primary. Palin was the only reason I voted for that moron. Without her, I would have stayed away from the general like a few million other disgusted Republicans did. [rotflol] [rotflol]

I STILL don't think that the RNC has woken up to the fact that John McCain was easily the worst GOP candidate that's been put up in the last 50 years.


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Re: Romney Rice 2012. Condi - ideal running mate for Mitt Romney

Postby internet.unknown » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:19 pm

thoughtless wrote:
internet.unknown wrote:
insidedge wrote:Below is a good article of the "why nots":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html


I voted for McCain because of Palin. Your analysis is incorrect. McCain lost because he was a wishy-washy aisle-hopping statist who refused to run an aggressive campaign.


Who would have done better than McCain?


I voted for Fred Thompson in the Michigan primary.
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Romney Rice 2012. Condi - "the right person for the #2 place on the ticket"

Postby peter dow » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:10 pm



Romney Rice 2012. Condi - "the right person for the #2 place on the ticket" (YouTube)

June 26, 2012. Condoleezza Rice is interviewed by Greta Van Susteren for 'ON THE RECORD' on the Fox News Channel.

Transcript of the Video wrote:
Greta Van Susteren:

At this -- in Utah -- at a Romney event, you took down the house -- people .. Apparently, you got a standing ovation.
You got a huge amount of warmth and support.
If asked, would you agree to be on the ticket with the Governor Romney - if asked?



Condoleezza Rice:

Greta, I shouldn't be asked and .. because I don't want to run for office. I ..


Greta Van Susteren:

I know you I don't want to - but - I know you don't want to. There are a lot of things that we - people don't want to do in life but I'm try to sort of gauge, sort of like, if you got, sort of, cornered?


Condoleezza Rice:

I don't think I'm going to get cornered because I've made it as clear as I possibly can this isn't what I am equipped to do or what I want to do.
I love public service. I loved my time in government. I love policy.
I'm really not a politician. I wasn't cut out that way. I never ran for student government when I was in high school and so I'll find my ways to serve but this isn't the right thing for me.


Greta Van Susteren:

But .. but if you look at the -- I would think that when I think one of the things that Governor Romney would look at in terms of enhancing his ticket is he'd look for someone with foreign policy experience. I mean that's got to be one consideration in this very volatile world.

There's no denying your foreign policy experience.


Condoleezza Rice:

But there are many ways to put together an administration so that you represent all of the challenges that the President of the United States will face.
And it doesn't all have to be in the presidency and in the vice presidency.

I am quite certain because I know him and I admire him and I trust his judgment.
Governor Romney is going to find the right person for the number two place on the ticket.

The most important thing is going to be that it's somebody who is ready to serve should something - God .. God forbid - happen to the president.
That's the most important characteristic of the vice president and I know he's going to make a good choice but I know it won't be me.


Condi is the right person for the number two place on the ticket.
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Re: Romney Rice 2012. Condi - ideal running mate for Mitt Romney

Postby ironbob2004 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:21 pm

[peace]
thoughtless wrote:
internet.unknown wrote:
insidedge wrote:Below is a good article of the "why nots":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html


I voted for McCain because of Palin. Your analysis is incorrect. McCain lost because he was a wishy-washy aisle-hopping statist who refused to run an aggressive campaign.


Who would have done better than McCain?


LOL, Palin.
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Re: Romney Rice 2012. Condi - ideal running mate for Mitt Romney

Postby thoughtless » Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:51 am

ironbob2004 wrote:[peace]
thoughtless wrote:
internet.unknown wrote:
insidedge wrote:Below is a good article of the "why nots":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html


I voted for McCain because of Palin. Your analysis is incorrect. McCain lost because he was a wishy-washy aisle-hopping statist who refused to run an aggressive campaign.


Who would have done better than McCain?


LOL, Palin.


Palin didn't run for president.

Nobody had even hear of her until McCain picked her for VP. She had no political organization of her own, and if she had been running, couldn't have even gotten on the ballot in most states.

In spite of all of that, do you really think she would have beat Obama?
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Re: Romney Rice 2012. Condi - ideal running mate for Mitt Romney

Postby thoughtless » Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:56 am

internet.unknown wrote:
thoughtless wrote:
internet.unknown wrote:
insidedge wrote:Below is a good article of the "why nots":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html


I voted for McCain because of Palin. Your analysis is incorrect. McCain lost because he was a wishy-washy aisle-hopping statist who refused to run an aggressive campaign.


Who would have done better than McCain?


I voted for Fred Thompson in the Michigan primary.


Irrelevant to the question, unless you're implying that Thompson would have beat Obama.
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Re: Romney Rice 2012. Condi - ideal running mate for Mitt Romney

Postby jim colyer » Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:45 am

Rice said no, but you never know. The main thing is to defeat Obama.
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Re: Romney Rice 2012. Condi - ideal running mate for Mitt Romney

Postby jim colyer » Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:46 am

Mitt Romney will be the next U.S. president. He was a Republican governor of Massachusetts. He is a Mormon. There has never been a Mormon president. Romney will be the first.

Willard Mitt Romney was born March 12, 1947, in Detroit, Michigan. He is the son of George Romney, a 1968 presidential candidate. He and his wife, Ann, have 5 sons. Romney has a B.A. from Brigham Young University and an MBA from Harvard. He co-founded Bain Capital, an investment firm, and helped to start Staples office-supply.

Romney ran for the U.S. Senate in 1994 but lost to Ted Kennedy. He was elected governor of Massachusetts in 2002 and served a four-year term. He had conservative values, a Republican governor in a liberal state. With veterans returning from Iraq, there need to be adequate benefits and health care. Romney supports veterans. He was the first Massachusetts governor to appoint a Secretary of Veterans' Affairs.

12 million illegal immigrants poured into the United States from the south. Romney is hard on illegals. He made an agreement with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement that allowed state troopers to arrest and deport.

Romney supports nuclear energy and wants to drill for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

Romney is pro-life. He opposes Roe v. Wade. He is against abortion except in cases of rape, incest or when the mother's life is threatened. He supports the death penalty in cases of terrorism and multiple killings. He believes that marriage is a union between a man and a woman. Romney opposes same-sex marriage and civil unions.
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Re: Romney Rice 2012. Condi - ideal running mate for Mitt Romney

Postby wildkitten » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:44 pm

Condi will never go for it.
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Re: Romney Rice 2012. Condi - ideal running mate for Mitt Romney

Postby internet.unknown » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:42 pm

thoughtless wrote:
internet.unknown wrote:
thoughtless wrote:
internet.unknown wrote:
insidedge wrote:Below is a good article of the "why nots":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html


I voted for McCain because of Palin. Your analysis is incorrect. McCain lost because he was a wishy-washy aisle-hopping statist who refused to run an aggressive campaign.


Who would have done better than McCain?


I voted for Fred Thompson in the Michigan primary.


Irrelevant to the question, unless you're implying that Thompson would have beat Obama.


You asked "Who would have done better than McCain." I answered that I had voted for Thompson. So, yes, I think Thompson would have done better than McCain. Double duh.
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Romney should use his VP pick to help him with women voters.

Postby peter dow » Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:02 pm

Romney should use his VP pick to help him with women voters.

Right now, Romney looks weak in attracting women voters.

The top 3 most admired women in America - Oprah Winfrey, Hillary Clinton, Michelle Obama - all back Obama for re-election.

If something big were to happen with one of those three then maybe Obama might lose his hold on the women's vote. If say, Romney went on TV with Oprah and convinced her and her viewers to vote Romney, if Hillary Clinton ran against Obama for the Democrat nomination, if Michelle Obama filed for divorce - that kind of thing, then maybe Obama would be vulnerable.

Right now, Obama has the women's vote all but sewn up so Romney needs to do something big to recruit women to his ticket.

Picking Condoleezza Rice to run on the Republican ticket would be Romney's best move to attract women voters and boost his ticket's foreign policy experience at the same time.

But Romney needs more women voters support. Oprah is the most admired woman with republican women so when she endorsed Obama for re-election that hurt the GOP ticket with women voters.

wildkitten wrote:Condi will never go for it.

Romney, Republicans, the United States, the world - we all need Condi to reconsider.
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Re: Romney should use his VP pick to help him with women voters.

Postby internet.unknown » Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:38 pm

peter dow wrote:Romney should use his VP pick to help him with women voters.

Right now, Romney looks weak in attracting women voters.

The top 3 most admired women in America - Oprah Winfrey, Hillary Clinton, Michelle Obama - all back Obama for re-election.

If something big were to happen with one of those three then maybe Obama might lose his hold on the women's vote. If say, Romney went on TV with Oprah and convinced her and her viewers to vote Romney, if Hillary Clinton ran against Obama for the Democrat nomination, if Michelle Obama filed for divorce - that kind of thing, then maybe Obama would be vulnerable.

Right now, Obama has the women's vote all but sewn up so Romney needs to do something big to recruit women to his ticket.

Picking Condoleezza Rice to run on the Republican ticket would be Romney's best move to attract women voters and boost his ticket's foreign policy experience at the same time.

But Romney needs more women voters support. Oprah is the most admired woman with republican women so when she endorsed Obama for re-election that hurt the GOP ticket with women voters.

wildkitten wrote:Condi will never go for it.

Romney, Republicans, the United States, the world - we all need Condi to reconsider.


What a crummy state of affairs when we choose candidates based upon gender and skin color.
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