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Libertarian's Johnson seeks debate slot with Obama, Romney

Postby mazel schlimazel » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:50 am

Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson is a man with little baggage, political or otherwise.

The Libertarian presidential nominee travels light, two carry-ons, no fees. He has no entourage, opening his own hotel room door at Paris Las Vegas on the Strip when a reporter arrives Friday to conduct an interview.

A trim man in a gray suit and blue tie, the 59-year-old Johnson skis, rides bikes and likes to climb mountains - four of the seven highest summits on the world's seven continents so far, including Everest.

And like many White House hopefuls before him, Johnson has written a new book, laying out his "Seven Principles of Good Government," to promote his ideas on the campaign trail.



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Re: Libertarian's Johnson seeks debate slot with Obama, Romney

Postby big_mike » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:30 am

Let's be real.

Gary Johnson went up against Ron Paul in the GOP primaries. Why would I vote for any GOP candidate as a Libertarian?

Didn't the Party learn its lesson with Bob Barr?

I'm a Libertarian conservative BECAUSE I don't like the GOP's platform, and I can't honestly see myself siding with anyone who would support it.

Ron Paul included. Love the guy, he'd be better than either Romney or Obama, but he's still a government official looking for more power and I inherently don't trust that.
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Re: Libertarian's Johnson seeks debate slot with Obama, Romney

Postby thoughtless » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:06 am

I think it's wise for conservatives to at least understand the recent libertarian shift among American voters.

The majority of Americans now "think the government is trying to do too many things that should be left to individuals
and businesses", but also think the government should "not favor any set of values". ( http://articles.businessinsider.com/201 ... nion-polls )

What I'm trying to say is that we are more libertarian then we realize, and that people like Gary Johnson, will be becoming more commonplace in the political scene of the future.
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Re: Libertarian's Johnson seeks debate slot with Obama, Romney

Postby mazel schlimazel » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:07 pm

big_mike wrote:Let's be real.

Gary Johnson went up against Ron Paul in the GOP primaries. Why would I vote for any GOP candidate as a Libertarian?

Didn't the Party learn its lesson with Bob Barr?

I'm a Libertarian conservative BECAUSE I don't like the GOP's platform, and I can't honestly see myself siding with anyone who would support it.

Ron Paul included. Love the guy, he'd be better than either Romney or Obama, but he's still a government official looking for more power and I inherently don't trust that.



Johnson is a real small gov't republican..



Unlike Romney.
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Re: Libertarian's Johnson seeks debate slot with Obama, Romney

Postby lightoftruth » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:16 pm

What percent of the vote is he currently holding again???? 8-)
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Re: Libertarian's Johnson seeks debate slot with Obama, Romney

Postby mazel schlimazel » Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:48 pm

lightoftruth wrote:What percent of the vote is he currently holding again???? 8-)




Doesn't matter. Some of us vote based on our principles. But we know you'd even vote for Franco or Mussolini if it meant defeating Obama.
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Re: Libertarian's Johnson seeks debate slot with Obama, Romney

Postby big_mike » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:03 pm

mazel schlimazel wrote:
big_mike wrote:Let's be real.

Gary Johnson went up against Ron Paul in the GOP primaries. Why would I vote for any GOP candidate as a Libertarian?

Didn't the Party learn its lesson with Bob Barr?

I'm a Libertarian conservative BECAUSE I don't like the GOP's platform, and I can't honestly see myself siding with anyone who would support it.

Ron Paul included. Love the guy, he'd be better than either Romney or Obama, but he's still a government official looking for more power and I inherently don't trust that.



Johnson is a real small gov't republican..



Unlike Romney.


There is no such thing as a "real small gov't republican", mazel. They're like the tooth fairy, the Easter Bunny, or Moses, just characters created whole cloth in children's campfire stories way back in the day.

From the drug war and eliminating abortion to a bloated Defense budget and penchant for spending and borrowing but not cutting entitlements, the GOP is choked with ideas about how they can order you about or hook your grandkids to some massive tax burden.
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Re: Libertarian's Johnson seeks debate slot with Obama, Romney

Postby ironbob2004 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:11 am

Hey, you and Gary give Larry Ellison a call and find out if he's got any room on the island! Enjoy! And in commemoration of your vote, I leave you with this!

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Re: Libertarian's Johnson seeks debate slot with Obama, Romney

Postby thoughtless » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:23 am

big_mike wrote:Let's be real.
Gary Johnson went up against Ron Paul in the GOP primaries.


If I remember correctly, there were some Republicans that went up against Mitt Romney as well.
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Re: Libertarian's Johnson seeks debate slot with Obama, Romney

Postby lightoftruth » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:36 am

mazel schlimazel wrote:
lightoftruth wrote:What percent of the vote is he currently holding again???? 8-)




Doesn't matter. Some of us vote based on our principles. But we know you'd even vote for Franco or Mussolini if it meant defeating Obama.

Uncalled for Maz.....& It does matter. If you give a tinkers damn about your principals you would understand Obama & Libs have got to be defeated. Once you do that, then you must ask how will Johnson attain that goal when there is zero chance of him winning??? The goal is to win the war of principles, not every battle.... 8-)
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Re: Libertarian's Johnson seeks debate slot with Obama, Romney

Postby mazel schlimazel » Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:16 pm

It was meant more as hyperbole on my behalf, but not totally uncalled for. The U.S. used Franco as a bulwark against the spread of Communism during the Cold War. Now, Franco did achieve some good economic results for Spain using free market policies, but at the cost of slimming down civil liberties and running his country virtually under the guise of Martial Law.


I'm not saying Romney is as bad, but pretty bad. Romney defeats my principles because of his avid support for the draconian NDAA, a more entrenched police state, his total disregard for states' rights on legislating local criminal and civil laws, his reluctance to lower entitlements (thus contributing to the deficit), as well as his support for launching an imminent war with Iran which will utterly shatter whatever meagre portion is left of our already-crippled economy.



As for the rest of your retort,




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Re: Libertarian's Johnson seeks debate slot with Obama, Romney

Postby lightoftruth » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:44 pm

I saw this video before,, they also do not understand you win a war 1 foot at a time.....The longer we let Obama and posse entrench their destructive agenda's, the harder it will be to dig them out in the future... 8-)
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Re: Libertarian's Johnson seeks debate slot with Obama, Romney

Postby big_mike » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:50 pm

thoughtless wrote:
big_mike wrote:Let's be real.
Gary Johnson went up against Ron Paul in the GOP primaries.


If I remember correctly, there were some Republicans that went up against Mitt Romney as well.


Gary Johnson is a Republican. I am not.

Did you not read the rest of my post, or did you cut it off because I clipped the knees out from under your comment with my next sentence?
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