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Why SPLC says White Lives Matter is a hate group but Black Lives Matter is not
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Topic Started: Aug 31 2016, 04:52 PM (1,140 Views)
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Aug 31 2016, 08:13 PM
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That's a big problem for it. It is also a problem for a number of other crowdsourced populist movements which often seem to take the form of wild, unfocused groups rather than something more disciplined. But people these days seem to reject any form of leadership.
When their existence is based on a lie,l that's a problem as well. For some reason the democrat powerbrokers think inciting race violence will help them win the election. That remains to be seen.
Some of it isn't a lie.
Although I agree that a lot of it is.
As for race violence, it is the absolute last thing the Democratic powerbrokers want.
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Aug 31 2016, 08:14 PM
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SPLC is a part of the establishment and political order which by its self-profession is anti-white. The political system does not white identity politics but looks kindly on ethnic minority politics. This is done to oppress the white man. You're so oppressed.
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White Lives Matter is absolutely a hate group. Basically, they are neo-Nazis/racists.
I don't think I'd classify Black Lives Matter as a hate group per se. They are more of an anger group which isn't the same thing. If White Lives Matter is cancer, then Black Lives Matter is more like the flu.
Also BLM is pretty diverse in some respects. There are some BLM people who are pretty good, reasonable folks and aren't hateful or nasty at all. Some seem interested in genuine dialogue.
The problem is you also have hateful loons in the movement - and not just at the fringes either. Many are anti-police. Others are anti-white. Some are just flat out racists.
WLM is corrosive nonsense. BLM could actually be a productive movement with a valuable agenda but they've just chosen not to be. One preaches hatred. The other preaches simmering anger. I wouldn't say they are equal but neither one is healthy either.
BLM unfortunately lacks real leadership.
That's a big problem for it. It is also a problem for a number of other crowdsourced populist movements which often seem to take the form of wild, unfocused groups rather than something more disciplined. But people these days seem to reject any form of leadership. It's a shame. BLM is an important movement at the right time but it is being wasted and time is fleeting.
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When their existence is based on a lie,l that's a problem as well. For some reason the democrat powerbrokers think inciting race violence will help them win the election. That remains to be seen.
Some of it isn't a lie. Although I agree that a lot of it is. As for race violence, it is the absolute last thing the Democratic powerbrokers want. WTF Planet you on? Of course they want violence.....
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Aug 31 2016, 08:17 PM
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When their existence is based on a lie,l that's a problem as well. For some reason the democrat powerbrokers think inciting race violence will help them win the election. That remains to be seen.
Some of it isn't a lie. Although I agree that a lot of it is. As for race violence, it is the absolute last thing the Democratic powerbrokers want. I agree that it is backfiring - that seemed to be the original plan though.
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Aug 31 2016, 08:19 PM
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Some of it isn't a lie. Although I agree that a lot of it is. As for race violence, it is the absolute last thing the Democratic powerbrokers want.
WTF Planet you on? Of course they want violence..... No, that's what you want them to be so that you can delegitimize the goals of the movement.
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Aug 31 2016, 08:24 PM
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WTF Planet you on? Of course they want violence.....
No, that's what you want them to be so that you can delegitimize the goals of the movement. When the goals of your movement are based on lies - you are delegitimized right out of the gate.
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No, that's what you want them to be so that you can delegitimize the goals of the movement.
When the goals of your movement are based on lies - you are delegitimized right out of the gate. Yes, fair and equal treatment along with equal opportunities and regard are always lies.
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Aug 31 2016, 08:51 PM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepyou want them to be so that you can delegitimize the goals of the movement.
When the goals of your movement are based on lies - you are delegitimized right out of the gate.
Yes, fair and equal treatment along with equal opportunities and regard are always lies. No. Denying that black on black crime is the real issue - when all else is a statistical outlier solves nothing.
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Aug 31 2016, 08:53 PM
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Some of it isn't a lie. Although I agree that a lot of it is. As for race violence, it is the absolute last thing the Democratic powerbrokers want.
WTF Planet you on? Of course they want violence.....
Violence would help Trump. They don't want to help Trump. They want to help Hillary.
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Yes, fair and equal treatment along with equal opportunities and regard are always lies.
No. Denying that black on black crime is the real issue - when all else is a statistical outlier solves nothing. There are a lot of issues. Inner city crime is one of them and it leads to the discussion of the over saturation of guns and the problems it brings on among many other elements.
See noting is simple or one dimensional.
BLM addresses a good many issues that you want to ignore for whatever baffling purpose doing so serves conservatism.
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WTF Planet you on? Of course they want violence.....
Violence would help Trump. They don't want to help Trump. They want to help Hillary. That's why they beat up Trump supporters....
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Violence would help Trump. They don't want to help Trump. They want to help Hillary.
That's why they beat up Trump supporters....
"They" didn't do anything. Counterprotesters did that. And that was more political violence than racial. I don't think the Democrats minded Trump getting a little bad press because of violence at his rallies started by either side.
But they definitely don't want "racial violence" or any sort of unrest in the streets. That'd be a gift to Trump, not to Clinton.
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That's why they beat up Trump supporters....
"They" didn't do anything. Counterprotesters did that. And that was more political violence than racial. I don't think the Democrats minded Trump getting a little bad press because of violence at his rallies started by either side. But they definitely don't want "racial violence" or any sort of unrest in the streets. That'd be a gift to Trump, not to Clinton. Wow...you need to get out of your bubble more....if I offered you 60k a year to write pro Trump articles would you take it?
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"They" didn't do anything. Counterprotesters did that. And that was more political violence than racial. I don't think the Democrats minded Trump getting a little bad press because of violence at his rallies started by either side. But they definitely don't want "racial violence" or any sort of unrest in the streets. That'd be a gift to Trump, not to Clinton.
Wow...you need to get out of your bubble more....if I offered you 60k a year to write pro Trump articles would you take it?
Damn, I'm horrifyingly broke so that'd be awesome. I'd be good at it too.
Unfortunately, I just couldn't sell my soul for 60k a year. For a normal Republican, I might be willing to swallow my morals for a good income but if Trump turns out to be as bad as I think he is, I don't see myself being able to be a part of that. When I leave this life, there might be a judgement day afterward and if God asks what I did with the writing talent he gave me, 60k isn't going to seem like nearly enough of an excuse.
History - assuming anyone is left alive to write it down after a Trump Administration - will probably deserve an explanation for what Trump's people - and their enablers - did to the nation and perhaps the world.
I may not change the course of history but I at least want clean hands and the right to say I did everything I could to try and stop what came.
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Wow...you need to get out of your bubble more....if I offered you 60k a year to write pro Trump articles would you take it?
Damn, I'm horrifyingly broke so that'd be awesome. I'd be good at it too. Unfortunately, I just couldn't sell my soul for 60k a year. For a normal Republican, I might be willing to swallow my morals for a good income but if Trump turns out to be as bad as I think he is, I don't see myself being able to be a part of that. When I leave this life, there might be a judgement day afterward and if God asks what I did with the writing talent he gave me, 60k isn't going to seem like nearly enough of an excuse. History - assuming anyone is left alive to write it down after a Trump Administration - will probably deserve an explanation for what Trump's people - and their enablers - did to the nation and perhaps the world. I may not change the course of history but I at least want clean hands and the right to say I did everything I could to try and stop what came. Omg....not again!
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Wow...you need to get out of your bubble more....if I offered you 60k a year to write pro Trump articles would you take it?
Damn, I'm horrifyingly broke so that'd be awesome. I'd be good at it too. Unfortunately, I just couldn't sell my soul for 60k a year. For a normal Republican, I might be willing to swallow my morals for a good income but if Trump turns out to be as bad as I think he is, I don't see myself being able to be a part of that. When I leave this life, there might be a judgement day afterward and if God asks what I did with the writing talent he gave me, 60k isn't going to seem like nearly enough of an excuse. History - assuming anyone is left alive to write it down after a Trump Administration - will probably deserve an explanation for what Trump's people - and their enablers - did to the nation and perhaps the world. I may not change the course of history but I at least want clean hands and the right to say I did everything I could to try and stop what came. So like with Trump and the Meskin prez it's now simply a matter of numbers and details....thanks for playing....
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Damn, I'm horrifyingly broke so that'd be awesome. I'd be good at it too. Unfortunately, I just couldn't sell my soul for 60k a year. For a normal Republican, I might be willing to swallow my morals for a good income but if Trump turns out to be as bad as I think he is, I don't see myself being able to be a part of that. When I leave this life, there might be a judgement day afterward and if God asks what I did with the writing talent he gave me, 60k isn't going to seem like nearly enough of an excuse. History - assuming anyone is left alive to write it down after a Trump Administration - will probably deserve an explanation for what Trump's people - and their enablers - did to the nation and perhaps the world. I may not change the course of history but I at least want clean hands and the right to say I did everything I could to try and stop what came.
So like with Trump and the Meskin prez it's now simply a matter of numbers and details....thanks for playing.... If Trump is elected, yeah, Nieto will have to deal with him. No question about that.
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So like with Trump and the Meskin prez it's now simply a matter of numbers and details....thanks for playing....
If Trump is elected, yeah, Nieto will have to deal with him. No question about that. You scared brah?
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No. Denying that black on black crime is the real issue - when all else is a statistical outlier solves nothing.
There are a lot of issues. Inner city crime is one of them and it leads to the discussion of the over saturation of guns and the problems it brings on among many other elements. See noting is simple or one dimensional. BLM addresses a good many issues that you want to ignore for whatever baffling purpose doing so serves conservatism. Yeah? When are the going to start?
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