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| North Dakota becomes first US state to legalise use of armed drones by police | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 8 2016, 11:56 AM (800 Views) | |
| Attaburnsinhell | Sep 8 2016, 11:56 AM Post #1 |
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/north-dakota-becomes-first-us-state-to-legalise-use-of-armed-drones-by-police-10492397.html |
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| clone | Sep 8 2016, 12:19 PM Post #2 |
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More gov't....yay..... |
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Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence. | |
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| Opinionated | Sep 8 2016, 04:49 PM Post #3 |
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Great. Soon the police will be able to kill unarmed black people by remote control and won't even have to be at the scene.
Edited by Opinionated, Sep 8 2016, 04:50 PM.
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| clone | Sep 8 2016, 05:56 PM Post #4 |
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In North Dakota? Isn't that too cold for black people....???? Edited by clone, Sep 8 2016, 05:56 PM.
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| Opinionated | Sep 8 2016, 05:59 PM Post #5 |
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You think it's going to only be North Dakota? Because I don't. The police always love getting new toys that they can (ab)use. |
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| clone | Sep 8 2016, 06:12 PM Post #6 |
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Thus my original post...more gov't yay....figured you'd have grasped the sarcasm....of course I don't look at everything through a racial lens.... I look at it through a tyranny versus not lens...more gov't equals more tyranny....or in this case more police state..... Edited by clone, Sep 8 2016, 06:13 PM.
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| Attaburnsinhell | Sep 8 2016, 06:34 PM Post #7 |
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Oh the irony from a Trump supporter |
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| clone | Sep 8 2016, 06:42 PM Post #8 |
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"trumped" up several notches on the irony scale by the father of Attanomics... |
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| peewee | Sep 9 2016, 12:42 AM Post #9 |
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In some respects this is a poorly written article. Consider two things. Military drones piloted from Nevada kill people in the middle and far east. A police drone killed a suspected terrorist in a Dallas parking garage not more than 5 weeks ago. Was that, according to this article not a "legal" drone? Presently there are no drone laws, yet the Obama Administration is working on putting laws in place this coming fall. |
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| Robert Stout | Sep 9 2016, 01:06 AM Post #10 |
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Thugs can also modify hobby drones to attack the police...Two can play the same game............
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| Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid | |
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| Drudge X | Sep 9 2016, 01:15 AM Post #11 |
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That's what I thought. Think about the past. Police armed themselves with bigger guns, crooks did the same. Different time, different game. Plus the government would probably pay $1500 for a drone that cost $500 on the market. Crooks have Youtube to aid them with modifying the drone into a weapon. |
| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| peewee | Sep 9 2016, 01:31 AM Post #12 |
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When terrorist and citizens begin killing people using drones won't we have the same outcry against drones as we now do about guns? We have a constitutional right to bear arms but not drones. I ask again, ND becomes the first state to legalize use of armed drones by police. Was the use of an armed drone by police in Dallas last month illegal? |
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| Tsalagi | Sep 9 2016, 08:34 AM Post #13 |
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I really don't have a problem with the use of drones...we're rapidly getting to the point where police might as well have a target on their backs, why not save a cop's life, and let a drone fly in front of a speeder, demand he pull over, if he doesn't, fire an EMP at the vehicle to kill the vehicle, the drone then detains the perp until such time as a armed officer can arrive on scene? Don't want to risk a police sniper being hit at a hostage scenario...put a drone up there who can hit far more accurately and do it with a weapon that can lock onto an armed assailant? |
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| Robert Stout | Sep 9 2016, 08:52 AM Post #14 |
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Can a police drone operator get a medal for valor ???...........
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| Tsalagi | Sep 9 2016, 08:53 AM Post #15 |
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Maybe a Distinguished Flying Cross? |
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| Opinionated | Sep 9 2016, 09:38 AM Post #16 |
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That's a very idealistic scenario you paint there. And if we could count on that being how drones are used, then I imagine I'd have less of a problem with them. But my thoughts are that now we currently have a problem with police body cameras "malfunctioning" during questionable situations. How might a drone "malfunction"? And who is responsible if someone dies as a consequence of this "malfunction" which may, or may not, be a legitimate malfunction? And let's take your scenario for example. Someone is speeding when a drone flies in front of them. They're startled by the unexpected appearance of a flying object in front of them, swerve to avoid a possible collision, and slam into a school bus with 35 children on board. Or the drone fires an EMP at their vehicle, all the electronics go down, and the power steering and power breaks no longer work, and now they're in a 70 mph unguided missile that's going to go wherever it is going to go... |
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| Attaburnsinhell | Sep 9 2016, 09:58 AM Post #17 |
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Arming a drone with an explosive device operated by cellphone would be pretty easy, Im wondering why it hasnt been done yet |
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| peewee | Sep 9 2016, 10:04 AM Post #18 |
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In the future there will be kamakazi drones and terrorists and police will have dog fights with drones. There will be a Red Baron drone pilot version as well. |
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| peewee | Sep 9 2016, 10:07 AM Post #19 |
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Your last paragraph is very possible which is why the Obama admin is now working to clarify what is and what is not going to be applied to future drone laws. |
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| Tsalagi | Sep 9 2016, 10:50 AM Post #20 |
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I tend to think of the officer's safety as well as the perp..a perp is less likely to pull a gun on a drone because there is no fear factor involved, none of the "he's going to shoot, I need to shoot first"...nor glee in "I'm gonna kill me a piggie"....as to your scenario...I would imagine any vehicle stop would involve the same safety protocols now on the open road regarding a high speed pursuit, only here, no police officers are harmed, no lawsuits against a city for a cop hitting someone in that high speed chase. Your scenario paints a silent drone popping out of nowhere to stop the vehicle..my scenario paints the same lights and sirens a cop car does, a drone pilot shouting over a microphone as a drone comes aside the vehicle "Stop your vehicle now". On vast stretches of US I-40, certainly in Tennessee, and North Carolina, there is nothing but forests on either side of the highway, and a State Trooper is without local city police backup. A stop at midnite when drug mules like to travel has no one on the road...hence an EMP is no danger to anyone else. |
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