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The LA times tracking poll has sent Hillary to the gluefactory
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So you're a warmongering neocon now.
All we do is vote. Times running out for you.
Yes - Clinton is doing so well she is playing defense in Michigan on her last day.
"It's truly remarkable the Clinton campaign is burning their final chip with President Obama by sending him into a state (Michigan) long viewed as deep blue, and this is yet another indication of how strong this movement is boosting Mr. Trump," Trump campaign spokesman Jason Miller told Business Insider. All Clinton supporters do is vote, reliably. Today's announcement from the FBI should have included an apology.
The get the vote out machine is ready to roll.
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So you're a warmongering neocon now.
All we do is vote. Times running out for you.
Yes - Clinton is doing so well she is playing defense in Michigan on her last day.
"It's truly remarkable the Clinton campaign is burning their final chip with President Obama by sending him into a state (Michigan) long viewed as deep blue, and this is yet another indication of how strong this movement is boosting Mr. Trump," Trump campaign spokesman Jason Miller told Business Insider. Its a possible deathknell - that and lower African american and millennial turnout.
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Jan 28 2017, 04:55 AM
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Dont get your hopes up Trump is going to lose 9pm they announce she took Pennsylvania and the orange national nightmare is over
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Jan 28 2017, 05:09 AM
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Dont get your hopes up Trump is going to lose 9pm they announce she took Pennsylvania and the orange national nightmare is over Well, this is certainly a rather infantile moment on your part.
Besides, what are you laughing at? You don't vote. You said you don't because you don't want the 'blame'. But you sure do like lining up with the winners like you did something.
No blame, no glory! 
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Jan 28 2017, 05:11 AM
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Dont get your hopes up Trump is going to lose 9pm they announce she took Pennsylvania and the orange national nightmare is over
Well, this is certainly a rather infantile moment on your part. Besides, what are you laughing at? You don't vote. You said you don't because you don't want the 'blame'. But you sure do like lining up with the winners like you did something. No blame, no glory!
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Jan 28 2017, 05:13 AM
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All we do is vote. Times running out for you.
Yes - Clinton is doing so well she is playing defense in Michigan on her last day.
"It's truly remarkable the Clinton campaign is burning their final chip with President Obama by sending him into a state (Michigan) long viewed as deep blue, and this is yet another indication of how strong this movement is boosting Mr. Trump," Trump campaign spokesman Jason Miller told Business Insider.
All Clinton supporters do is vote, reliably. Today's announcement from the FBI should have included an apology. The get the vote out machine is ready to roll.
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Jan 28 2017, 05:14 AM
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Yes - Clinton is doing so well she is playing defense in Michigan on her last day.
Defense wins championships Bear Bryant
Nice quote - but I think this is desperation based on multiple factors - her double digit deficit with independents - african american turnout is low - go watch that Michael Moore video where he accidentally endorses Donald Trump
She's gonna win friend. The Michael Moore clip, when seen in full context is not the same message the truncated version shows. Keep flailing. The end is very near for Trump. That's the one thing that is a firm deadline, November 8
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Dont get your hopes up Trump is going to lose 9pm they announce she took Pennsylvania and the orange national nightmare is over
Well, this is certainly a rather infantile moment on your part. Besides, what are you laughing at? You don't vote. You said you don't because you don't want the 'blame'. But you sure do like lining up with the winners like you did something. No blame, no glory! Yes, yes, we know. You're the type that takes credit for others work, walks away screaming innocent when it doesn't work and all along you did nothing in the least in either direction.
But you sure will line up to claim treats amongst those that did. A sterling quality.
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Jan 28 2017, 11:55 AM
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Well this is a fun thread to read...thanks Esto
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Dont get your hopes up Trump is going to lose 9pm they announce she took Pennsylvania and the orange national nightmare is over
Well, this is certainly a rather infantile moment on your part. Besides, what are you laughing at? You don't vote. You said you don't because you don't want the 'blame'. But you sure do like lining up with the winners like you did something. No blame, no glory!
Yes, yes, we know. You're the type that takes credit for others work, walks away screaming innocent when it doesn't work and all along you did nothing in the least in either direction. But you sure will line up to claim treats amongst those that did. A sterling quality.
Are you on the wrong thread?
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Well this is a fun thread to read...thanks Esto 
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Clinton wins, fairly comfortably. 325 ev's
So confident....where does it come from...
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Fortunately, the Times poll appears to have a very weird panel methodology that doesn't look particularly accurate so I've come to disregard it. Not that the polls are giving good news lately but they are certainly rosier than the LA Times poll which, I assume, will probably change methodologies next cycle after what appears to have been kind of a disaster for them. Um...ya...there was a disaster alright...schadenboner still going strong....
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Fortunately, the Times poll appears to have a very weird panel methodology that doesn't look particularly accurate so I've come to disregard it. Not that the polls are giving good news lately but they are certainly rosier than the LA Times poll which, I assume, will probably change methodologies next cycle after what appears to have been kind of a disaster for them.
Um...ya...there was a disaster alright...schadenboner still going strong.... 
I was proven correct on this. The Times poll was the most inaccurate of all the polls based on the final results. I doubt they'll ever use this methodology again. It was a disaster.
But don't worry. I won't have any schadenboners rubbing it in your face. I'm classy like that.
Edited by Two a.m., Jan 28 2017, 05:57 PM.
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Fortunately, the Times poll appears to have a very weird panel methodology that doesn't look particularly accurate so I've come to disregard it. Not that the polls are giving good news lately but they are certainly rosier than the LA Times poll which, I assume, will probably change methodologies next cycle after what appears to have been kind of a disaster for them.
Um...ya...there was a disaster alright...schadenboner still going strong.... 
I was proven correct on this. The Times poll was the most inaccurate of all the polls based on the final results. I doubt they'll ever use this methodology again. It was a disaster. But don't worry. I won't have any schadenboners rubbing it in your face. I'm classy like that. The only thing that the LA Times polls could not predict was the electoral fraud in California.
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Fortunately, the Times poll appears to have a very weird panel methodology that doesn't look particularly accurate so I've come to disregard it. Not that the polls are giving good news lately but they are certainly rosier than the LA Times poll which, I assume, will probably change methodologies next cycle after what appears to have been kind of a disaster for them.
Um...ya...there was a disaster alright...schadenboner still going strong.... 
I was proven correct on this. The Times poll was the most inaccurate of all the polls based on the final results. I doubt they'll ever use this methodology again. It was a disaster. But don't worry. I won't have any schadenboners rubbing it in your face. I'm classy like that.
The only thing that the LA Times polls could not predict was the electoral fraud in California.
While still fictional, at least your interpretation matches the numbers better than Clone's.
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Fortunately, the Times poll appears to have a very weird panel methodology that doesn't look particularly accurate so I've come to disregard it. Not that the polls are giving good news lately but they are certainly rosier than the LA Times poll which, I assume, will probably change methodologies next cycle after what appears to have been kind of a disaster for them.
Um...ya...there was a disaster alright...schadenboner still going strong.... 
I was proven correct on this. The Times poll was the most inaccurate of all the polls based on the final results. I doubt they'll ever use this methodology again. It was a disaster. But don't worry. I won't have any schadenboners rubbing it in your face. I'm classy like that.
The only thing that the LA Times polls could not predict was the electoral fraud in California.
While still fictional, at least your interpretation matches the numbers better than Clone's. We'll see what the investigations turn up.
I thinks the DNC operatives in O'Keefe's videos were telling the truth when they admitted to either directly committing electoral fraud - or witnessing it.
Not sure its as high as 3 million, but certainly enough to swing some larger counties.
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I was proven correct on this. The Times poll was the most inaccurate of all the polls based on the final results. I doubt they'll ever use this methodology again. It was a disaster. But don't worry. I won't have any schadenboners rubbing it in your face. I'm classy like that.
The only thing that the LA Times polls could not predict was the electoral fraud in California.
While still fictional, at least your interpretation matches the numbers better than Clone's.
We'll see what the investigations turn up. I thinks the DNC operatives in O'Keefe's videos were telling the truth when they admitted to either directly committing electoral fraud - or witnessing it. Not sure its as high as 3 million, but certainly enough to swing some larger counties.
There is some fraud in almost any election. Trump has said three to five million though which is insane. Only large amounts of fraud in big states could absorb that level of fraud. And most of the big states are probably off the menu. Trump actually won Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida and Michigan making any significant pro-Clinton fraud there unlikely. That leaves places like Texas and California but the number of illegal votes needed to make the math work appears impossible. More importantly, it should be noted that neither pre-election polls nor exit polls showed anything indicating pro-Clinton fraud. In fact, Clinton appears to have actually underperformed both. In fact, even GOP pollster Frank Luntz was so convinced of a Clinton win after viewing the exit polls that he announced the election was effectively over early on. He later sheepishly admitted he'd jumped the gun. If massive pro-Clinton election fraud were occurring, you'd expect the polls to point to a Trump victory that didn't happen. But the opposite was true. I'd actually say at this point there is more evidence of a pro-Trump fraud than pro-Clinton fraud.
But frankly, there is little evidence of either. I don't think Trump cheated. The election was basically what it appears to be.
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I should also point out that the biggest danger fraud-wise is probably hacking voting machines - not people voting twice or voting illegally. Hacking voting equipment is almost certainly more efficient and less risky than any other method. Miscounting votes is far easier than casting them fraudulently.
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