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Obama's Popularity Hits an All Time High on Eve of Election
Topic Started: Nov 8 2016, 08:25 AM (616 Views)
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/obama-highest-popularity-in-2-years-230897

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On his last day of barnstorming to preserve his legacy, President Barack Obama is approaching peak popularity.

Obama’s approval rating hit 56 percent in Gallup’s tracking poll on Monday, a reminder of his power as a surrogate as he travels to Michigan, New Hampshire and Pennsylvania to drum up the vote for Hillary Clinton. It’s rare for a two-term president to be in such high demand on the trail, and that level of popularity has been rare in Obama’s tenure. It’s the highest his rating in that poll has been since October 2012, shortly before he was re-elected, when he hit 57 percent. Other polls over the past month have shown similarly high ratings — all vastly better than those for either Clinton or Donald Trump.
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I'm going to hazard the opinion that if Hillary manages to win this election, which I think she will, it will be because Obama, Michelle, and Bernie carried her into the White House on their shoulders.

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As the American pea pull realize that they were hornswoggled by eight years of GOP lies they will become more clear that the Republican Party, the party of birthers, racists, government shutdowns and wild goose chase investigations simply cannot be trusted with public policy.
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jake58

Even Hopey Changey dude looks good compared to the 2 asshats running
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jake58
Nov 8 2016, 08:53 AM
Even Hopey Changey dude looks good compared to the 2 asshats running
Eight years without a single significant scandal. Recovery from the greatest depression in 80 years. I don't expect agreement on this point, but I do honestly believe that subsequent historians will judge Obama's foreign policy as brilliant.
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jake58

What foreign policy? On the great challenges of his admin - Syria, Russia, Libya... he will have been found wanting. Even more ineffectual in foreign policy than domestic... and that 's saying something. Eight years of sub 3% growth in GDP even when goosed by $10 trillion in deficit spending and $5 trillion in Fed funny money.
Edited by jake58, Nov 8 2016, 09:17 AM.
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Relative to the two candidates we've got now, a lot of people are thinking Obama isn't the worst we could have.
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thoughtless
Nov 8 2016, 09:38 AM
Relative to the two candidates we've got now, a lot of people are thinking Obama isn't the worst we could have.
If it were legal to write in an otherwise disqualified former President, he would win.


(A wee exaggeration)
Edited by CautionaryTales, Nov 8 2016, 09:48 AM.


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coverpoint

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Nov 8 2016, 08:29 AM
I'm going to hazard the opinion that if Hillary manages to win this election, which I think she will, it will be because Obama, Michelle, and Bernie carried her into the White House on their shoulders.

This is much how it should be. That is the essence of political parties. In unity there is strength.

It is likely that President Obama won the 2012 election thanks much to the campaigning of Bill Clinton. Remember, he was the “Secretary of explaining things”.

Bill Clinton Campaigns As Obama's No. 1 Surrogate
http://www.npr.org/2012/06/04/154264464/bill-clinton-campaigns-as-obama-s-no-1-surrogate
Edited by coverpoint, Nov 8 2016, 09:54 AM.
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edro14

Hear this, sour grapes and his followers are threatening a civil war if sour grapes loses.

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coverpoint
Nov 8 2016, 09:53 AM
Opinionated
Nov 8 2016, 08:29 AM
I'm going to hazard the opinion that if Hillary manages to win this election, which I think she will, it will be because Obama, Michelle, and Bernie carried her into the White House on their shoulders.

This is much how it should be. That is the essence of political parties. In unity there is strength.

It is likely that President Obama won the 2012 election thanks much to the campaigning of Bill Clinton. Remember, he was the “Secretary of explaining things”.

Bill Clinton Campaigns As Obama's No. 1 Surrogate
http://www.npr.org/2012/06/04/154264464/bill-clinton-campaigns-as-obama-s-no-1-surrogate
I'm not disputing that. I'm just pointing out that Hillary probably could not have done it on her own.

Did Bill Clinton help Obama win his first election? Undoubtedly. Could he have still pulled it off on his own? Yeah, I think he probably could have. I can't say the same for Hillary. She's just too unpopular.
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Nov 8 2016, 09:09 AM
jake58
Nov 8 2016, 08:53 AM
Even Hopey Changey dude looks good compared to the 2 asshats running
Eight years without a single significant scandal. Recovery from the greatest depression in 80 years. I don't expect agreement on this point, but I do honestly believe that subsequent historians will judge Obama's foreign policy as brilliant.
With your last statement, I think I am going to puke............. :shakeshead:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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edro14
Nov 8 2016, 10:28 AM
Hear this, sour grapes and his followers are threatening a civil war if sour grapes loses.

You better hope there is not a civil war............ :lol:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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CautionaryTales
Nov 8 2016, 09:47 AM
thoughtless
Nov 8 2016, 09:38 AM
Relative to the two candidates we've got now, a lot of people are thinking Obama isn't the worst we could have.
If it were legal to write in an otherwise disqualified former President, he would win.


(A wee exaggeration)
I encourage all black Americans to write in Barak Obama.............. :biggrin:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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coverpoint

Opinionated
Nov 8 2016, 10:38 AM
coverpoint
Nov 8 2016, 09:53 AM
Opinionated
Nov 8 2016, 08:29 AM
I'm going to hazard the opinion that if Hillary manages to win this election, which I think she will, it will be because Obama, Michelle, and Bernie carried her into the White House on their shoulders.

This is much how it should be. That is the essence of political parties. In unity there is strength.

It is likely that President Obama won the 2012 election thanks much to the campaigning of Bill Clinton. Remember, he was the “Secretary of explaining things”.

Bill Clinton Campaigns As Obama's No. 1 Surrogate
http://www.npr.org/2012/06/04/154264464/bill-clinton-campaigns-as-obama-s-no-1-surrogate
I'm not disputing that. I'm just pointing out that Hillary probably could not have done it on her own.

Did Bill Clinton help Obama win his first election? Undoubtedly. Could he have still pulled it off on his own? Yeah, I think he probably could have. I can't say the same for Hillary. She's just too unpopular.
I don’t think President Obama could have won election in 2008 without the overt, significant and active campaigning support of Hillary Clinton.

Not to mention Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Bill Clinton
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coverpoint
Nov 8 2016, 11:12 AM
Opinionated
Nov 8 2016, 10:38 AM
coverpoint
Nov 8 2016, 09:53 AM
Opinionated
Nov 8 2016, 08:29 AM
I'm going to hazard the opinion that if Hillary manages to win this election, which I think she will, it will be because Obama, Michelle, and Bernie carried her into the White House on their shoulders.

This is much how it should be. That is the essence of political parties. In unity there is strength.

It is likely that President Obama won the 2012 election thanks much to the campaigning of Bill Clinton. Remember, he was the “Secretary of explaining things”.

Bill Clinton Campaigns As Obama's No. 1 Surrogate
http://www.npr.org/2012/06/04/154264464/bill-clinton-campaigns-as-obama-s-no-1-surrogate
I'm not disputing that. I'm just pointing out that Hillary probably could not have done it on her own.

Did Bill Clinton help Obama win his first election? Undoubtedly. Could he have still pulled it off on his own? Yeah, I think he probably could have. I can't say the same for Hillary. She's just too unpopular.
I don’t think President Obama could have won election in 2008 without the overt, significant and active campaigning support of Hillary Clinton.

Not to mention Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Bill Clinton
Ted Kennedy endorsed Obama after Obama had already won the South Carolina primary by 30 points. While it was an important endorsement, Obama was already well on his way to winning the nomination. I don't think John Kerry's endorsement was as important as you apparently think it was. And I've already acknowledged that Bill Clinton support during the election was helpful, but it probably wasn't definitive.

Let's be honest. Obama has several advantages Hillary does not. He is well liked, well spoken, and very charismatic. There is a very real chance that without Bill Clinton's help, he would have still managed to win the election. Hillary, on the other hand, is not well liked, is not an impressive speaker, and is not particularly charismatic. And she has needed all the help she could to put away an opponent which, in all honestly, should have been a pretty easy slam dunk for any other reasonable candidate.

The fact that she has struggled so much against Trump implies that against anyone else she would have lost, because Trump is just that bad. And that she couldn't have done it on her own. Period.
Edited by Opinionated, Nov 8 2016, 11:27 AM.
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Robert Stout
Nov 8 2016, 11:02 AM
CautionaryTales
Nov 8 2016, 09:47 AM
thoughtless
Nov 8 2016, 09:38 AM
Relative to the two candidates we've got now, a lot of people are thinking Obama isn't the worst we could have.
If it were legal to write in an otherwise disqualified former President, he would win.


(A wee exaggeration)
I encourage all black Americans to write in Barak Obama.............. :biggrin:
I plan to write his name in on the announced (by Trump) election date of Nov 28.
I'm a white guy, does it matter?

Aside from that I'll go ahead and vote for Grammy today


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Nov 8 2016, 11:26 AM
coverpoint
Nov 8 2016, 11:12 AM
Opinionated
Nov 8 2016, 10:38 AM
coverpoint
Nov 8 2016, 09:53 AM
Opinionated
Nov 8 2016, 08:29 AM
I'm going to hazard the opinion that if Hillary manages to win this election, which I think she will, it will be because Obama, Michelle, and Bernie carried her into the White House on their shoulders.

This is much how it should be. That is the essence of political parties. In unity there is strength.

It is likely that President Obama won the 2012 election thanks much to the campaigning of Bill Clinton. Remember, he was the “Secretary of explaining things”.

Bill Clinton Campaigns As Obama's No. 1 Surrogate
http://www.npr.org/2012/06/04/154264464/bill-clinton-campaigns-as-obama-s-no-1-surrogate
I'm not disputing that. I'm just pointing out that Hillary probably could not have done it on her own.

Did Bill Clinton help Obama win his first election? Undoubtedly. Could he have still pulled it off on his own? Yeah, I think he probably could have. I can't say the same for Hillary. She's just too unpopular.
I don’t think President Obama could have won election in 2008 without the overt, significant and active campaigning support of Hillary Clinton.

Not to mention Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Bill Clinton
Ted Kennedy endorsed Obama after Obama had already won the South Carolina primary by 30 points. While it was an important endorsement, Obama was already well on his way to winning the nomination. I don't think John Kerry's endorsement was as important as you apparently think it was. And I've already acknowledged that Bill Clinton support during the election was helpful, but it probably wasn't definitive.

Let's be honest. Obama has several advantages Hillary does not. He is well liked, well spoken, and very charismatic. There is a very real chance that without Bill Clinton's help, he would have still managed to win the election. Hillary, on the other hand, is not well liked, is not an impressive speaker, and is not particularly charismatic. And she has needed all the help she could to put away an opponent which, in all honestly, should have been a pretty easy slam dunk for any other reasonable candidate.

The fact that she has struggled so much against Trump implies that against anyone else she would have lost, because Trump is just that bad. And that she couldn't have done it on her own. Period.
I don't think it matters that she needs help to win.
I think it's an advantage that she needs to have a coalition of support.

I'm also less concerned with her "getting elected" skills and more concerned with her "Being President" skills moving forward
Edited by CautionaryTales, Nov 8 2016, 11:39 AM.


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coverpoint

Opinionated
Nov 8 2016, 11:26 AM
coverpoint
Nov 8 2016, 11:12 AM
Opinionated
Nov 8 2016, 10:38 AM
coverpoint
Nov 8 2016, 09:53 AM
Opinionated
Nov 8 2016, 08:29 AM
I'm going to hazard the opinion that if Hillary manages to win this election, which I think she will, it will be because Obama, Michelle, and Bernie carried her into the White House on their shoulders.

This is much how it should be. That is the essence of political parties. In unity there is strength.

It is likely that President Obama won the 2012 election thanks much to the campaigning of Bill Clinton. Remember, he was the “Secretary of explaining things”.

Bill Clinton Campaigns As Obama's No. 1 Surrogate
http://www.npr.org/2012/06/04/154264464/bill-clinton-campaigns-as-obama-s-no-1-surrogate
I'm not disputing that. I'm just pointing out that Hillary probably could not have done it on her own.

Did Bill Clinton help Obama win his first election? Undoubtedly. Could he have still pulled it off on his own? Yeah, I think he probably could have. I can't say the same for Hillary. She's just too unpopular.
I don’t think President Obama could have won election in 2008 without the overt, significant and active campaigning support of Hillary Clinton.

Not to mention Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Bill Clinton
Ted Kennedy endorsed Obama after Obama had already won the South Carolina primary by 30 points. While it was an important endorsement, Obama was already well on his way to winning the nomination. I don't think John Kerry's endorsement was as important as you apparently think it was. And I've already acknowledged that Bill Clinton support during the election was helpful, but it probably wasn't definitive.

Let's be honest. Obama has several advantages Hillary does not. He is well liked, well spoken, and very charismatic. There is a very real chance that without Bill Clinton's help, he would have still managed to win the election. Hillary, on the other hand, is not well liked, is not an impressive speaker, and is not particularly charismatic. And she has needed all the help she could to put away an opponent which, in all honestly, should have been a pretty easy slam dunk for any other reasonable candidate.

The fact that she has struggled so much against Trump implies that against anyone else she would have lost, because Trump is just that bad. And that she couldn't have done it on her own. Period.
You may have a bit of a revisionist view of the 2008 election.

Senator Obama was a little known first term Senator that barely won the Democratic nomination (much like SOS Clinton). Without Clinton’s full-throated support during the general election (and the support of other Democrats) it is quite likely that he would have lost the election to John McCain.

The thing that helped Senator Obama the most in 2008 was George Bush’s low favorability and the 2 wars he was conducting. Had Hillary Clinton won the Democratic nomination in 2008, she also, would have won.
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