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When will we see action on this?; #1 campaign promise
Topic Started: Nov 10 2016, 06:57 AM (2,028 Views)
ringotuna
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CautionaryTales
Nov 11 2016, 08:16 PM
ringotuna
Nov 11 2016, 08:08 PM
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Nov 11 2016, 07:30 PM
ringotuna
Nov 11 2016, 07:27 PM
CautionaryTales
Nov 11 2016, 07:25 PM
I like waffles, particularly this one. LOL, and if it were Hillary "waffling" you'd praise her for compromising.
The difference is that she has been compromising her whole career. No surprises there when she does.
I expect her to do that. It is how they do business and they tell you up front.

So, it's not hypocrisy for me to expect that she will do what she says she will do.
Trumps following do not expect that. I don't think they will stand for it either.
The difference in standards is obvious in that you would consider one a compromise and another a waffling. The semantics reveal the double standard.
It isn't a difference in standards. It is a difference in philosophy. Someone that is a compromiser is expected to take more into account than someone that claims to be rigid in their beliefs.
Clinton hasn't claimed that and she hasn't been rigid in her positions for her whole public life.
Trump claims to be rigid and firm in his beliefs. Suddenly he is waffling.

I'm fine with it, will his followers be as forgiving?
Yes yes, those Play-Doh ethics I've talked about. Different candidate, different "philosophy" LOL

BTW, you're philosophy is somewhat low information, in that going back to the primary debates, Trump as stated clearly that he wishes to keep certain parts of ACA, including the pre-existing condition clause and the clause allowing parents to carry their children to age 26.

So, how do ya like them waffles? :biggrin:

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Highlighting what we are, and have always been.
Edited by CautionaryTales, Nov 12 2016, 05:52 AM.


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Nov 10 2016, 10:17 AM
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Nov 10 2016, 10:07 AM
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Nov 10 2016, 09:58 AM
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Nov 10 2016, 09:41 AM
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Nov 10 2016, 07:57 AM
Ok kids...off to the gym for me...
I'm hoping to see the collective wisdom here on this thread through the day.

I'm so excited
I think there's more chance of collective wisdom if you stay at the gym the rest of the day.

This retarded 'holding candidates' accountable' meme after 8 years of ignoring the failed promises of the current inhabitant simply highlights your complete lack of gravitas.
The obstructionism stalled Obama. There is no reason to expect that from Congress now.
Full steam ahead laddie boy!
Did you do like 3 pushups?
Nope, an hour of treadmill at 3.7 mph on a 5 degree incline. Every week day.
On the weekends I do five miles on the real road. Takes me about an hour and twenty five minutes. I use the Map my Run app to keep track of that.

This summer I'm planning on evening walks through Camden because President Trump is promising to make it safe there.
Camden? It's completely full of Democrats. You'll be as safe as in your Mother's arms.
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We will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it. Believe me. It'll be beautiful.
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Nov 12 2016, 10:37 AM
We will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it. Believe me. It'll be beautiful.
Among many of the things that I do not understand about the wall is who will provide the labor to build it? Mexican labor or American labor? And why even build a wall when hundreds of much cheaper drones could be utilized instead?
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Nov 10 2016, 06:57 AM
1. ‘Build a wall’ — and make Mexico pay for it

Trump announced his candidacy with the promise "to build a great, great wall on our southern border" and "have Mexico pay for that wall," and has repeated the call with conviction and consistency. But even his supporters have expressed skepticism that this centerpiece promise will see the light of day. An actual wall will be extremely costly, and it remains to be seen how Trump would force Mexico to pay for it.

"There are some that hear this is going to be 1,200 miles from Brownsville to El Paso, 30-foot high, and listen, I know you can’t do that," former Texas Gov. Rick Perry said recently. (Perry once denounced Trump but has since endorsed him.)

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/jul/15/donald-trumps-top-10-campaign-promises/
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I'm curious to hear what the people expect of President Trump in this matter (and others)
Since these items in this link are the cornerstones that got Mr Trump elected, I think it's important that he follow through on them.

So let's start here, with this, one of the more boisterous plans of our new President.

What should be expected now that he is in a clear position to deliver? When should contracts be let and what will the process be for collecting the money to pay for it from Mexico?
Will the Mexican government be responsible for the contracts and providing the businesses involved in its construction?
The promise stage is over and it's time to refocus on the business of delivery.

Your input of what you expect is appreciated.



I would say that it's reasonable to expect definitive plans that detail the construction in no more than three months after he takes the oath of office. Construction, including funding should be in place no less than a year from now. I believe that is fair. Do you?
I assume he is making inquiries as we speak.
An actual wall is a waste of time. Why not merely take advantage of historical walls, like the Great Wall of China; for business model purposes. Designing a tourist attraction, from the beginning, can generate revenue from inception, not several hundred years later.
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Nov 12 2016, 11:09 AM
CautionaryTales
Nov 10 2016, 06:57 AM
1. ‘Build a wall’ — and make Mexico pay for it

Trump announced his candidacy with the promise "to build a great, great wall on our southern border" and "have Mexico pay for that wall," and has repeated the call with conviction and consistency. But even his supporters have expressed skepticism that this centerpiece promise will see the light of day. An actual wall will be extremely costly, and it remains to be seen how Trump would force Mexico to pay for it.

"There are some that hear this is going to be 1,200 miles from Brownsville to El Paso, 30-foot high, and listen, I know you can’t do that," former Texas Gov. Rick Perry said recently. (Perry once denounced Trump but has since endorsed him.)

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/jul/15/donald-trumps-top-10-campaign-promises/
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I'm curious to hear what the people expect of President Trump in this matter (and others)
Since these items in this link are the cornerstones that got Mr Trump elected, I think it's important that he follow through on them.

So let's start here, with this, one of the more boisterous plans of our new President.

What should be expected now that he is in a clear position to deliver? When should contracts be let and what will the process be for collecting the money to pay for it from Mexico?
Will the Mexican government be responsible for the contracts and providing the businesses involved in its construction?
The promise stage is over and it's time to refocus on the business of delivery.

Your input of what you expect is appreciated.



I would say that it's reasonable to expect definitive plans that detail the construction in no more than three months after he takes the oath of office. Construction, including funding should be in place no less than a year from now. I believe that is fair. Do you?
I assume he is making inquiries as we speak.
An actual wall is a waste of time. Why not merely take advantage of historical walls, like the Great Wall of China; for business model purposes. Designing a tourist attraction, from the beginning, can generate revenue from inception, not several hundred years later.
Because an actual physical wall is what he campaigned on.
He was very specific about that.


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CautionaryTales
Nov 12 2016, 05:52 AM
Highlighting what we are, and have always been.
Yes...this election has really shone a light on who "we" really are....

Anti-bullying ambassador is arrested at Trump Tower for pushing a 74-year-old man to the ground


https://t.co/VDsXSvnwx6

Though to be completely honest....some of us have known this all along....
Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence.
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peewee
Nov 12 2016, 11:06 AM
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Nov 12 2016, 10:37 AM
We will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it. Believe me. It'll be beautiful.
Among many of the things that I do not understand about the wall is who will provide the labor to build it? Mexican labor or American labor? And why even build a wall when hundreds of much cheaper drones could be utilized instead?
I will push for legislation to have those on welfare build the wall. What are drones?
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Nov 10 2016, 07:34 AM
2. Temporarily ban Muslims from entering the United States

Following the December 2015 shooting in San Bernardino, Calif., Trump called for "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on."

The next day, Trump admitted that details "would have to worked out" and said it wouldn’t apply to all Muslims, but remained vague on the timeline or the exemptions. Scholars were divided on whether banning people of an entire faith would violate the constitution.

In early May, Trump told the New York Times the ban would be in place by the end of his first 100 days in office. But on Fox News Radio a few days later, he said that it was "just a suggestion." A month later, he recommitted to the ban, tweaking it to now encompass immigrants from "nations tied to Islamic terror."

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Any chance we can get this clarified at this point?
What do you think? There are a few issues of clarity regarding the timeline.
During this election there have been a lot of supporters of Trumps that had a lot to say, well, now that he has won and has the approval of the people to do his thing, what do you expect from him?

I expect to see an order from his office in the first 100 days that is definitive about who gets in and how. I also expect those rules to be supported by a dedicated force for that purpose.

You?
Action taken.....You happy now? :popcorn:
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