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| Calexit: California mulls becoming own nation in wake of Trump presidency | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 11 2016, 02:36 AM (1,437 Views) | |
| Siberian | Nov 11 2016, 02:36 AM Post #1 |
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The Golden State could become the Golden Nation if an independence referendum gets passed. Emboldened by California’s strong economy and high population, the so-called “Calexit” could gain traction following the election of Donald Trump. California could become an independent country in 2019 when voters hit the polls again. The Yes California Independence Campaign believes that “being a US state is no longer serving California’s best interests” and thinks that California would be better suited making its own immigration laws. https://www.rt.com/usa/366378-calexit-california-leaves-nation/ Edited by Siberian, Nov 11 2016, 02:36 AM.
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| Goood morning GULAG!!! | |
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| Robert Stout | Nov 11 2016, 02:41 AM Post #2 |
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I rely on the Russians to help make that happen............
Edited by Robert Stout, Nov 11 2016, 02:42 AM.
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| Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid | |
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| Harambe4Trump | Nov 11 2016, 02:43 AM Post #3 |
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There is monument in an Alabama town square with my ancestors engraved along it as a reminder of what happened the last time democrats chimped out when a Republican was elected President. |
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Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary. #MAGA #wallsnotwars | |
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| Harambe4Trump | Nov 11 2016, 02:44 AM Post #4 |
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There's some strapping officer out there looking to reenact Sherman's March to the sea on treasonous democrats. |
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Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary. #MAGA #wallsnotwars | |
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| Coast2coast | Nov 11 2016, 02:48 AM Post #5 |
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I live in California and no one is talking about it. This State is not going anywhere. It will still be a part of the country four years from now when competence returns to the White House to undue the damage that is about to come. |
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| Drudge X | Nov 11 2016, 02:49 AM Post #6 |
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The sky is falling and it's Trump's fault.
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| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| Harambe4Trump | Nov 11 2016, 02:55 AM Post #7 |
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Donald Trump defeated the entire political order; he is going nowhere. |
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Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary. #MAGA #wallsnotwars | |
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| Coast2coast | Nov 11 2016, 02:56 AM Post #8 |
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Oh, his damage will extend past the four years. I completely recognize that. |
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| estonianman | Nov 11 2016, 02:57 AM Post #9 |
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No. You wish it. |
| MEEK AND MILD | |
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| Harambe4Trump | Nov 11 2016, 02:58 AM Post #10 |
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That's what the corrupt political order said in 1776. |
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Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary. #MAGA #wallsnotwars | |
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| Harambe4Trump | Nov 11 2016, 03:00 AM Post #11 |
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Donald Trump took down the Republican establishment, the democratic establishment, the foreign policy failed elite, Wall Street, Hollywood, and Corporate America and defeated them all. He'll dispense with these nongendered perpetual children without a sweat. |
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Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary. #MAGA #wallsnotwars | |
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| Siberian | Nov 11 2016, 03:25 AM Post #12 |
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Trump is a sympthom, not a desease. Compare present America with 2000s, then with 1980s, then with 1960s, you will clearly see general trends - level of life is falling or stagnates - even for the middle class, while race minorities live mostly worse and their number is growing. While overall economy is in the dead end, it is still somehow functional only because interest rate on all your debts keeps falling, the US now annually pay less as interest on its debt than in 2007, while the debt nearly doubled. But there is obvios limit to this - interest cannot go far into negative territory for long, bank system will die. As well stocks cannot be maintained eternally growing with economy stagnating. So, the economic situation will become much, much worse, then the World economic system will desintegrate, level of life will fall for 30-40 % in the best case scenario ( In Russia GDP fell for 50% after desintegration of the USSR, and World economy collapse will be worse). And all racial tensions will blow up. As well most prosperoys states will not want to feed poorer ones, I think you kniw better than I which ones. I think most or maby multyethnic states will desuntegrate, Russia will also mist probably lose some territorues like Chechnya ( and Alhamdulillah with this), but in the US it will be a very bloody and destructive prosess since all races are mixed, tgere are not so many states with certain overwhelmibg majority. |
| Goood morning GULAG!!! | |
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| Siberian | Nov 11 2016, 03:39 AM Post #13 |
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No, it's not Trump. You, people, do not have advantage of profound Russian education, which makes you acquainted with bigger variety of opposing views and theories. Otherwise you would have known 3 characters of a revolutionary situation, described by Vladimir Lenin. 1) The elite cannot rule as it did before 2) The masses don't want to live as they did before. 3) There is a revolutionary party, ready to lead the masses. So, obviously the elite is trying hard to buy some time via inflating the debt bubble, building the debt pyramid which will fall and bury the World. Obviously very soon this condition will be met. People have almost reached riot stage. So far it is whites, in 10 years their situation will worsen since economic crisis will get worse, Trump will fail to stop immigration, minorities will keep growing. In general racial tensions will grow and grow much. Because economic problems will make political struggle more fierce. In less tolerant society racial groups will concentrate territorially, whites will move to states with white majority, latinos - to their states etc. And then this dimension will become one of the strongest - not republicans vs democrats, but white states vs. others. 3) There is no revolutionary party, ready to lead the masses. In situation of radicalization of the racial struggle I expect racial parties will get more influential, as well according to the polls most Americans would welcome 3d party to emerge. Anyway, it will take much less time than yoy think to reach destabilization stage. ![]() Edited by Siberian, Nov 11 2016, 03:45 AM.
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| Goood morning GULAG!!! | |
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| Harambe4Trump | Nov 11 2016, 03:57 AM Post #14 |
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What a dark despairing view of the world you have when the man who defeated the corrupt political and economic forces ruining the United States comes into office vowing to restore peaceful relations with Putin and yet you continue your agitprop. Fortunately, Putin is far smarter and will work for peace. It's easy for warmongers like you and Hillary Clinton to scream for war when it isn't your sons who will dying for some pointless war. |
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Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary. #MAGA #wallsnotwars | |
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| Siberian | Nov 11 2016, 04:27 AM Post #15 |
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I could argue that it's not dark but rather optimistic scenario whatever approach you take - both the World economy collapse can be worse, as well how could you call the US collapse as dark pessimistic scenario? ![]() Besides, don't mix my agitprop with Putin's one. ![]() But speaking seriously - I try not to allow my wishful thinking to influence my assessments and analysis. I wrote tons of analytic papers in my life, it's a matter of competence to stick to reality. And what I say about the US future or the World economy - I really think so, and not because I would like it to happen. Of course now I mention general trends, how much and in what order and proportion all these elenents will actually take place - may vary, but general line is obvious. Edited by Siberian, Nov 11 2016, 04:35 AM.
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| Goood morning GULAG!!! | |
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| Siberian | Nov 11 2016, 04:42 AM Post #16 |
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Besides, my view on Russia's future is also not that optimistic, I just don't share it with you. But it still is much better than of the US, you are too a diverse society to survive an economic crisis of such a scale. As well we have seen much worse a times and are still here, while the US has no such experience and nobody can say you have knowledge and ability to cope with it.
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| Goood morning GULAG!!! | |
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| Freaks | Nov 11 2016, 08:22 AM Post #17 |
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Do you know how many times people in New York have tried to split the state? Just because it's up and some people talk about it doesn't mean anything. |
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"I'll be the fella to save his Cinderella, by turnin' her dream world into real life." | |
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| Freaks | Nov 11 2016, 08:25 AM Post #18 |
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Edited by Freaks, Nov 11 2016, 08:37 AM.
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"I'll be the fella to save his Cinderella, by turnin' her dream world into real life." | |
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| ringotuna | Nov 11 2016, 08:29 AM Post #19 |
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Talk it up C...Maybe it will take some of the heat off Texas. I can send you some SECEDE bumper stickers to get the ball rolling.![]() Edited by ringotuna, Nov 11 2016, 08:31 AM.
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| Ringoism: Never underestimate the advantages of being underestimated. | |
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| Freaks | Nov 11 2016, 08:35 AM Post #20 |
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Isn't Oregon talking about becoming its own country as well? |
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"I'll be the fella to save his Cinderella, by turnin' her dream world into real life." | |
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I could argue that it's not dark but rather optimistic scenario whatever approach you take - both the World economy collapse can be worse, as well how could you call the US collapse as dark pessimistic scenario?
I can send you some SECEDE bumper stickers to get the ball rolling.

9:57 AM Jul 11