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Trump fills the swamp with more lobbyists; He’s surrounding himself with Wall Street and D.C. insiders.
Topic Started: Nov 11 2016, 05:50 AM (1,161 Views)
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Nov 12 2016, 06:47 PM
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Nov 12 2016, 06:38 PM
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Nov 12 2016, 06:30 PM
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Nov 12 2016, 06:21 PM
No, merely supported her because my choice was rejected. I couldn't get behind someone who is a racist, xenophobe, serial rapist of women and the enviroment

Someone still has to have a moral redline



The reason you lost is because everyone you disagree with isn't a racist, misogynist and a rapist. Lying only works as a persuasion tactic if you somehow maintain credibility while doing it.

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You have no morals. You think that you are fighting for the common good, therefore the means justify the end. The leftist media instilled that into the democratic party which is why you saw all this violence leading up to and after the election. This is how suicide bombers justify their career path.

I didnt say everyone was a racist, xenophobe rapist, just your president

If you're willing to disregard his lying and sexual assaults, then you're no one to talk about anyone elses morals
But Atta - you were proven wrong here http://unitedstates.com/topic/10036578

So either you ignored the evidence and are now lying about, or you forgot.

Which is it?

Sounds like the Bill Cosby defense. Not very effective
Bill Cosby is facing prosecution in the court of law based on evidence.

That's the difference.
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estonianman
Nov 12 2016, 06:42 PM
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Nov 12 2016, 06:40 PM
Btw, the only one's threatening actual murderous violence were armed Trump supporters
Do you have a source for this breaking news?
Playing ''make-believe'' again?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/18/us-militia-recruiting-clinton-trump-election-patriot-movement
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I didnt say everyone was a racist, xenophobe rapist, just your president

If you're willing to disregard his lying and sexual assaults, then you're no one to talk about anyone elses morals
But Atta - you were proven wrong here http://unitedstates.com/topic/10036578

So either you ignored the evidence and are now lying about, or you forgot.

Which is it?

Sounds like the Bill Cosby defense. Not very effective
Bill Cosby is facing prosecution in the court of law based on evidence.

That's the difference.
12 women came forward, accusing him of sexual assault

Even his first wife said he raped her

Let's make-believe they're all lying
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estonianman
Nov 12 2016, 06:42 PM
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Btw, the only one's threatening actual murderous violence were armed Trump supporters
Do you have a source for this breaking news?
Playing ''make-believe'' again?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/18/us-militia-recruiting-clinton-trump-election-patriot-movement
where is the violence?

what laws where broken?
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estonianman
Nov 12 2016, 06:54 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Nov 12 2016, 06:52 PM
estonianman
Nov 12 2016, 06:42 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Nov 12 2016, 06:40 PM
Btw, the only one's threatening actual murderous violence were armed Trump supporters
Do you have a source for this breaking news?
Playing ''make-believe'' again?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/18/us-militia-recruiting-clinton-trump-election-patriot-movement
where is the violence?

what laws where broken?
So according to you, we've avoided a rightwing bloodbath because Trump won
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Nov 12 2016, 07:00 PM
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Nov 12 2016, 06:54 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Nov 12 2016, 06:52 PM
estonianman
Nov 12 2016, 06:42 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Nov 12 2016, 06:40 PM
Btw, the only one's threatening actual murderous violence were armed Trump supporters
Do you have a source for this breaking news?
Playing ''make-believe'' again?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/18/us-militia-recruiting-clinton-trump-election-patriot-movement
where is the violence?

what laws where broken?
So according to you, we've avoided a rightwing bloodbath because Trump won
I have no idea, where is the evidence?
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estonianman
Nov 12 2016, 07:01 PM
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estonianman
Nov 12 2016, 06:54 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Nov 12 2016, 06:52 PM
estonianman
Nov 12 2016, 06:42 PM

Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
Playing ''make-believe'' again?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/18/us-militia-recruiting-clinton-trump-election-patriot-movement
where is the violence?

what laws where broken?
So according to you, we've avoided a rightwing bloodbath because Trump won
I have no idea, where is the evidence?
So you think they were lying
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Nov 12 2016, 07:02 PM
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Nov 12 2016, 07:01 PM
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Nov 12 2016, 07:00 PM
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Nov 12 2016, 06:54 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Nov 12 2016, 06:52 PM
where is the violence?

what laws where broken?
So according to you, we've avoided a rightwing bloodbath because Trump won
I have no idea, where is the evidence?
So you think they were lying
I think its possible that they were lying - for 3 reasons:

1. timing, right before the election and right after the pussy tape

2. Its Hillary

3. There were some wikileaks that were dropped that showed that Hillary planned it

4. The Florida child rape case turned out to be a lie by the left

Feel free to impeach the guy based on whatever evidence you have. I will support you 100%.
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The Trump administration is going to run very much on the model of Celebrity Apprentice. Governor Fatso never saw this coming until heard the boss proclaim his signature phrase, "you're fired!". Staffing his administration with well known nobodies and then firing them as needed will make great presidential public relations. Those lobbyists etc. are sheep heading for the slaughterhouse.
Conservatism is a social disease
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Nov 12 2016, 07:14 PM
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Nov 12 2016, 06:54 PM
So according to you, we've avoided a rightwing bloodbath because Trump won
I have no idea, where is the evidence?
So you think they were lying
I think its possible that they were lying - for 3 reasons:

1. timing, right before the election and right after the pussy tape

2. Its Hillary

3. There were some wikileaks that were dropped that showed that Hillary planned it

4. The Florida child rape case turned out to be a lie by the left

Feel free to impeach the guy based on whatever evidence you have. I will support you 100%.
Esto, let me confide something with you


Im glad Hillary didnt win

Im not crazy about the crap Trump said in order to get elected, but at least I dont have to make excuses for the biyatch
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Nov 12 2016, 08:07 PM
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Nov 12 2016, 07:01 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Nov 12 2016, 07:00 PM
I have no idea, where is the evidence?
So you think they were lying
I think its possible that they were lying - for 3 reasons:

1. timing, right before the election and right after the pussy tape

2. Its Hillary

3. There were some wikileaks that were dropped that showed that Hillary planned it

4. The Florida child rape case turned out to be a lie by the left

Feel free to impeach the guy based on whatever evidence you have. I will support you 100%.
Esto, let me confide something with you


Im glad Hillary didnt win

Im not crazy about the crap Trump said in order to get elected, but at least I dont have to make excuses for the biyatch
Hey in this dank timeline anything can happen.

Trump might launch a new deal 2.0 that you reject and I support.
Edited by estonianman, Nov 12 2016, 08:10 PM.
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Nov 12 2016, 08:10 PM
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estonianman
Nov 12 2016, 07:14 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Nov 12 2016, 07:02 PM
estonianman
Nov 12 2016, 07:01 PM
So you think they were lying
I think its possible that they were lying - for 3 reasons:

1. timing, right before the election and right after the pussy tape

2. Its Hillary

3. There were some wikileaks that were dropped that showed that Hillary planned it

4. The Florida child rape case turned out to be a lie by the left

Feel free to impeach the guy based on whatever evidence you have. I will support you 100%.
Esto, let me confide something with you


Im glad Hillary didnt win

Im not crazy about the crap Trump said in order to get elected, but at least I dont have to make excuses for the biyatch
Hey in this dank timeline anything can happen.

Trump might launch a new deal 2.0 that you reject and I support.
If Trump pulls a huge fake out and actually does good, smart things, I'll cut him a mile of slack
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Attaburnsinhell
Nov 12 2016, 08:12 PM
estonianman
Nov 12 2016, 08:10 PM
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Nov 12 2016, 08:07 PM
estonianman
Nov 12 2016, 07:14 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Nov 12 2016, 07:02 PM
I think its possible that they were lying - for 3 reasons:

1. timing, right before the election and right after the pussy tape

2. Its Hillary

3. There were some wikileaks that were dropped that showed that Hillary planned it

4. The Florida child rape case turned out to be a lie by the left

Feel free to impeach the guy based on whatever evidence you have. I will support you 100%.
Esto, let me confide something with you


Im glad Hillary didnt win

Im not crazy about the crap Trump said in order to get elected, but at least I dont have to make excuses for the biyatch
Hey in this dank timeline anything can happen.

Trump might launch a new deal 2.0 that you reject and I support.
If Trump pulls a huge fake out and actually does good, smart things, I'll cut him a mile of slack
I'll pass that along to him because he was asking me what your opinion was and if you could cut him some slack....I told just make everything as great as Venezuela and he would get your seal of approval.....
Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence.
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Nov 12 2016, 08:10 PM
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estonianman
Nov 12 2016, 07:14 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Nov 12 2016, 07:02 PM
I think its possible that they were lying - for 3 reasons:

1. timing, right before the election and right after the pussy tape

2. Its Hillary

3. There were some wikileaks that were dropped that showed that Hillary planned it

4. The Florida child rape case turned out to be a lie by the left

Feel free to impeach the guy based on whatever evidence you have. I will support you 100%.
Esto, let me confide something with you


Im glad Hillary didnt win

Im not crazy about the crap Trump said in order to get elected, but at least I dont have to make excuses for the biyatch
Hey in this dank timeline anything can happen.

Trump might launch a new deal 2.0 that you reject and I support.
If Trump pulls a huge fake out and actually does good, smart things, I'll cut him a mile of slack
I would prefer that all cuts in spending were returned as tax cuts - but if that pallet of cash destined for Iran was diverted and put into refurbishing some pipes in Michigan, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
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Nov 12 2016, 08:26 PM
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Nov 12 2016, 08:07 PM
estonianman
Nov 12 2016, 07:14 PM
Esto, let me confide something with you


Im glad Hillary didnt win

Im not crazy about the crap Trump said in order to get elected, but at least I dont have to make excuses for the biyatch
Hey in this dank timeline anything can happen.

Trump might launch a new deal 2.0 that you reject and I support.
If Trump pulls a huge fake out and actually does good, smart things, I'll cut him a mile of slack
I would prefer that all cuts in spending were returned as tax cuts - but if that pallet of cash destined for Iran was diverted and put into refurbishing some pipes in Michigan, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
Maybe before we cut taxes we use any money freed up by spending cuts to reduce the deficit or even, if there is a surplus, pay down the debt.

I find it interesting you advocate thievery as a foreign policy. If we had taken that money and spent it in Michigan we would have had to steal it. It was never our money, it was always Iran's.
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Nov 12 2016, 08:07 PM
Hey in this dank timeline anything can happen.

Trump might launch a new deal 2.0 that you reject and I support.
If Trump pulls a huge fake out and actually does good, smart things, I'll cut him a mile of slack
I would prefer that all cuts in spending were returned as tax cuts - but if that pallet of cash destined for Iran was diverted and put into refurbishing some pipes in Michigan, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
Maybe before we cut taxes we use any money freed up by spending cuts to reduce the deficit or even, if there is a surplus, pay down the debt.

I find it interesting you advocate thievery as a foreign policy. If we had taken that money and spent it in Michigan we would have had to steal it. It was never our money, it was always Iran's.
Was it? Honestly I didn't know the backstory on it. That said the pallet of cash being sent overseas meme is quite common. I understand that the Bush administration did that repeatedly - sending cash to Iraq. There were also instances of sending the Muslim Brotherhood cash. I am not here to debate any of these situations - only that tons (literally) of money is wasted and it is wasted overseas. I would like that money back in my income - but if it has to be spent then build a wall, fix some pipes, fix a bridge then so be it.

Look at the trillions missing from the DOD that Rumsfield reported on the day on 9/10/2001. I think there are some major kickbacks taking place along with the waste. This needs to end.

I think its a good compromise between the left and the starve the beast right so quit your bitching. Make capital investments that the people that our getting their revenue stolen might actually benefit from.
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If Trump pulls a huge fake out and actually does good, smart things, I'll cut him a mile of slack
I would prefer that all cuts in spending were returned as tax cuts - but if that pallet of cash destined for Iran was diverted and put into refurbishing some pipes in Michigan, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
Maybe before we cut taxes we use any money freed up by spending cuts to reduce the deficit or even, if there is a surplus, pay down the debt.

I find it interesting you advocate thievery as a foreign policy. If we had taken that money and spent it in Michigan we would have had to steal it. It was never our money, it was always Iran's.
Was it? Honestly I didn't know the backstory on it. That said the pallet of cash being sent overseas meme is quite common. I understand that the Bush administration did that repeatedly - sending cash to Iraq. There were also instances of sending the Muslim Brotherhood cash. I am not here to debate any of these situations - only that tons (literally) of money is wasted and it is wasted overseas. I would like that money back in my income - but if it has to be spent then build a wall, fix some pipes, fix a bridge then so be it.

Look at the trillions missing from the DOD that Rumsfield reported on the day on 9/10/2001. I think there are some major kickbacks taking place along with the waste. This needs to end.

I think its a good compromise between the left and the starve the beast right so quit your bitching. Make capital investments that the people that our getting their revenue stolen might actually benefit from.
Maybe you should start learning the backstory.

Unfortunately that problem is quite common in the U.S., people believe the lies and repeat them as truth. Learning the backstory would go a long way to making you more credible.

The money released to Iran was Iranian money frozen during the sanctions. As part of the negotiations to raise sanctions related to U.N. nuclear votes, the U.S. agreed to release frozen Iranian assets. Part of those assets was what was shipped to Iran.
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Nov 12 2016, 06:39 PM
A former Bush administration official told Politico that it would be "a mistake" for a leader to deprive themselves of lobbyists, who are "some of the most seasoned and capable people able to responsibly pull the levers of government."

I lean toward the expert and away form any naysayer posting on this thread. You are all wrong according to the former Bush admin quoted by Politico.
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I would prefer that all cuts in spending were returned as tax cuts - but if that pallet of cash destined for Iran was diverted and put into refurbishing some pipes in Michigan, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
Maybe before we cut taxes we use any money freed up by spending cuts to reduce the deficit or even, if there is a surplus, pay down the debt.

I find it interesting you advocate thievery as a foreign policy. If we had taken that money and spent it in Michigan we would have had to steal it. It was never our money, it was always Iran's.
Was it? Honestly I didn't know the backstory on it. That said the pallet of cash being sent overseas meme is quite common. I understand that the Bush administration did that repeatedly - sending cash to Iraq. There were also instances of sending the Muslim Brotherhood cash. I am not here to debate any of these situations - only that tons (literally) of money is wasted and it is wasted overseas. I would like that money back in my income - but if it has to be spent then build a wall, fix some pipes, fix a bridge then so be it.

Look at the trillions missing from the DOD that Rumsfield reported on the day on 9/10/2001. I think there are some major kickbacks taking place along with the waste. This needs to end.

I think its a good compromise between the left and the starve the beast right so quit your bitching. Make capital investments that the people that our getting their revenue stolen might actually benefit from.
Maybe you should start learning the backstory.

Unfortunately that problem is quite common in the U.S., people believe the lies and repeat them as truth. Learning the backstory would go a long way to making you more credible.

The money released to Iran was Iranian money frozen during the sanctions. As part of the negotiations to raise sanctions related to U.N. nuclear votes, the U.S. agreed to release frozen Iranian assets. Part of those assets was what was shipped to Iran.
Thanks for the backstory. I'll verify and get back to you.

Now address the rest of my post.
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