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Trump now says he plans to legalize some undocumented immigrants; lol
Topic Started: Nov 12 2016, 02:47 AM (758 Views)
Eddo26
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http://www.univision.com/univision-news/politics/trump-now-says-he-plans-to-legalize-some-undocumented-immigrants

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump plans to present an immigration plan in Colorado Thursday that will include finding a way to legalize millions of undocumented immigrants, according to three people who attended a meeting between the candidate and Hispanic leaders on Saturday at Trump Tower in New York.
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Trump never said that all Mexican illegals are rapists, drug dealers, and criminals...He only said many of them are........... :nana:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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Robert Stout
Nov 12 2016, 03:17 AM
Trump never said that all Mexican illegals are rapists, drug dealers, and criminals...He only said many of them are........... :nana:
So are many of legal citizens...
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Eddo36
Nov 12 2016, 03:24 AM
Robert Stout
Nov 12 2016, 03:17 AM
Trump never said that all Mexican illegals are rapists, drug dealers, and criminals...He only said many of them are........... :nana:
So are many of legal citizens...
We are stuck with our bad citizens....We don't need to import bad people............. :oyvey
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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Robert Stout
Nov 12 2016, 03:31 AM
Eddo36
Nov 12 2016, 03:24 AM
Robert Stout
Nov 12 2016, 03:17 AM
Trump never said that all Mexican illegals are rapists, drug dealers, and criminals...He only said many of them are........... :nana:
So are many of legal citizens...
We are stuck with our bad citizens....We don't need to import bad people............. :oyvey
And yet this article...
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Eddo36
Nov 12 2016, 03:33 AM
Robert Stout
Nov 12 2016, 03:31 AM
Eddo36
Nov 12 2016, 03:24 AM
Robert Stout
Nov 12 2016, 03:17 AM
Trump never said that all Mexican illegals are rapists, drug dealers, and criminals...He only said many of them are........... :nana:
So are many of legal citizens...
We are stuck with our bad citizens....We don't need to import bad people............. :oyvey
And yet this article...
Wait until you read Trump's immigration proposal....It will exclude rapists, drug dealers and criminals from being eligible for US citizenship............. :biggrin:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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Robert Stout
Nov 12 2016, 03:42 AM
Eddo36
Nov 12 2016, 03:33 AM
Robert Stout
Nov 12 2016, 03:31 AM
Eddo36
Nov 12 2016, 03:24 AM
Robert Stout
Nov 12 2016, 03:17 AM
Trump never said that all Mexican illegals are rapists, drug dealers, and criminals...He only said many of them are........... :nana:
So are many of legal citizens...
We are stuck with our bad citizens....We don't need to import bad people............. :oyvey
And yet this article...
Wait until you read Trump's immigration proposal....It will exclude rapists, drug dealers and criminals from being eligible for US citizenship............. :biggrin:
That's fine, so no problem with the rest of them.
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If he gets his wall built, and deports many of those now here illegally. I'm sure some will remain, we don't live in a perfect world. Note this wasn't just about illegals. It's time to crack down on h1b visas.
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Harambe4Trump
Nov 12 2016, 09:24 AM
If he gets his wall built, and deports many of those now here illegally. I'm sure some will remain, we don't live in a perfect world. Note this wasn't just about illegals. It's time to crack down on h1b visas.
Starting with the incoming First gold-digger , Melanoma?
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Trump fans better get used to this sort of flip-flop because it signals that Trump is open for business and ready to make a deal. This President is not going to be on the model of Moses coming down from the mountain with his stone tablets; this is a give-a-little-get-a-little kind of guy putting the pieces together to assemble his plan for his own success.
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They don't care, GA.
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Nov 12 2016, 09:35 AM
Trump fans better get used to this sort of flip-flop because it signals that Trump is open for business and ready to make a deal. This President is not going to be on the model of Moses coming down from the mountain with his stone tablets; this is a give-a-little-get-a-little kind of guy putting the pieces together to assemble his plan for his own success.
All presidents seem to have modified their campaign agendas. Ma Barker would have. That happens when new and more detailed information enters the various proposals. I would expect that a number of general ideas and proposals mentioned during the campaign will change as time move on. I've never concerned myself about what a candidate said they would do but rather what they are now doing and how works out in the end.
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peewee
Nov 12 2016, 10:54 AM
George Aligator
Nov 12 2016, 09:35 AM
Trump fans better get used to this sort of flip-flop because it signals that Trump is open for business and ready to make a deal. This President is not going to be on the model of Moses coming down from the mountain with his stone tablets; this is a give-a-little-get-a-little kind of guy putting the pieces together to assemble his plan for his own success.
All presidents seem to have modified their campaign agendas. Ma Barker would have. That happens when new and more detailed information enters the various proposals. I would expect that a number of general ideas and proposals mentioned during the campaign will change as time move on. I've never concerned myself about what a candidate said they would do but rather what they are now doing and how works out in the end.

It would have been a flip flop If Trump had promised to deport all Mexicans, Muslims, and end government health insurance as liberals claimed he would....He did flip-flop on the wall, in favor of my plan of a virtual wall of minefields, razor wire, and sniper towers................ :)
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Will be funny if Trump turns into Obama III

He will modify his Mideast plan until it basically is what have been doing in Syria, Iraq and Afganistan

He will modify his immigration plan until it matches what we have already been doing

He will modify his health insurance plan until it becomes a modification/improvement on Obamacare

He'll find he has no allied support to dump the Iran deal and will "toughen it" through "enforcement"

He will renegotiate TPP to "toughen it" but it will be eerily similar to where it is now and existing treaties will be tweaked but left in place
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Nov 12 2016, 03:33 PM
Will be funny if Trump turns into Obama III

He will modify his Mideast plan until it basically is what have been doing in Syria, Iraq and Afganistan

He will modify his immigration plan until it matches what we have already been doing

He will modify his health insurance plan until it becomes a modification/improvement on Obamacare

He'll find he has no allied support to dump the Iran deal and will "toughen it" through "enforcement"

He will renegotiate TPP to "toughen it" but it will be eerily similar to where it is now and existing treaties will be tweaked but left in place
Obama's foreign policies have been stunningly incompetent...There is no way that Trump is able to match that.......... :lol:
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See Republicans wanted Amensty for illegals all along. They just wanted to be the ones that passed it so they would get the credit
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BuckFan
Nov 12 2016, 03:33 PM
Will be funny if Trump turns into Obama III

He will modify his Mideast plan until it basically is what have been doing in Syria, Iraq and Afganistan

He will modify his immigration plan until it matches what we have already been doing

He will modify his health insurance plan until it becomes a modification/improvement on Obamacare

He'll find he has no allied support to dump the Iran deal and will "toughen it" through "enforcement"

He will renegotiate TPP to "toughen it" but it will be eerily similar to where it is now and existing treaties will be tweaked but left in place
I completely agree.

He'll also get a trillion dollar stimulus passed to repair our roads, something Dems have been wanting for 8 years
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wilmywood8455
Nov 12 2016, 09:51 AM
They don't care, GA.
I think you are correct that Trump supporters are not troubled by his 180 degree reversal in mood and tone since victory or the jumping bean flip-flops on policy. I heard on the TV that the press takes Trump literally but not seriously while his supporters take him seriously but not literally. Can't tell the players without a scorecard.
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Nov 12 2016, 04:18 PM
wilmywood8455
Nov 12 2016, 09:51 AM
They don't care, GA.
I think you are correct that Trump supporters are not troubled by his 180 degree reversal in mood and tone since victory or the jumping bean flip-flops on policy. I heard on the TV that the press takes Trump literally but not seriously while his supporters take him seriously but not literally. Can't tell the players without a scorecard.
Works for me.
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Nov 12 2016, 04:05 PM
BuckFan
Nov 12 2016, 03:33 PM
Will be funny if Trump turns into Obama III

He will modify his Mideast plan until it basically is what have been doing in Syria, Iraq and Afganistan

He will modify his immigration plan until it matches what we have already been doing

He will modify his health insurance plan until it becomes a modification/improvement on Obamacare

He'll find he has no allied support to dump the Iran deal and will "toughen it" through "enforcement"

He will renegotiate TPP to "toughen it" but it will be eerily similar to where it is now and existing treaties will be tweaked but left in place
I completely agree.

He'll also get a trillion dollar stimulus passed to repair our roads, something Dems have been wanting for 8 years
I see a trend here. The one obstacle that can't be tweaked is his tax plan with massive rate cuts especially in corporate and upper-income brackets. Run against income reported in the past few years, his tax plan would run up hundreds of billions of dollars in annual deficits.

Trump's response is that his tax cuts will stimulate such explosive economic growth that federal income will be far greater than it is currently, enough to pay for all his big spending programs in defense, infrastructure etc. This classic -- and discredited -- reaganomics.

Again, using recent numbers, the Trump tax cuts would have to produce economic growth in the 10% range to avoid deficit increase, a growth rate like that which China used to have in its heyday. This is a pipe dream.

Either Trump walks away from his tax proposals -- infuriating the Republican establishment or he abandons his spending programs or he explodes the deficit sky high. None of these options seems economically practical or politically realistic. We won't have to wait much longer to find out the answer to this riddle. The next Congress will be showtime.
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