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Glenn Greenwald: Trump will have vast powers. He can thank Democrats for them.
Topic Started: Nov 13 2016, 12:28 PM (465 Views)
peewee

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/11/glenn-greenwald-trump-will-have-vast-powers-he-can-thank-democrats-for-them/
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Yes!

Thank you Obama, you showed us the way!

:cheers: :usasmile:
"Be polite, be friendly. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet." Gen Mattis
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Suddenly, cons embrace the imperial presidency.
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Nov 13 2016, 12:36 PM
Suddenly, cons embrace the imperial presidency.
The imperial presidency, a term first coined to describe the Nixon administration, ended with Tricky Dick giving the V-for-victory sign out the door of the helicopter taking him to exile and disgrace. Preventing a president with vast powers was perhaps the underlying objective of the Constitutional Convention. Every president since who has striven for vast powers has found that his reach exceeds his grasp and, more often than not, suffered painful setbacks. Mr. Trump will be no different and, personally, I rather doubt that he will even try.
Conservatism is a social disease
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Some conservatives love tyranny when its their guy
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Adolph Hipster
Nov 13 2016, 01:01 PM
Some conservatives love tyranny when its their guy
Technology has enabled a President to have a secret police without high personnel costs...I am more comfortable with Trump having that power rather than Hillary.....I am a good judge of character............. :biggrin:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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We could be like Ireland, and have a Parliamentary Presidency, with a Prime Minister calling most of the shots and a Ceremonial President as an emergency-backup.
President Tulsi Gabbard / Jimmy Dore 2020.
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GreenLady
Nov 13 2016, 11:35 PM

We could be like Ireland, and have a Parliamentary Presidency, with a Prime Minister calling most of the shots and a Ceremonial President as an emergency-backup.
Cut to the chase and emigrate to Ireland............ :biggrin:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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Adolph Hipster
Nov 13 2016, 01:01 PM
Some conservatives love tyranny when its their guy
We can hope that the house and the senate will hold Trump in check to some degree rather than let him go hog wild. Trump has an opportunity not enjoyed by a Republican President since 1928.
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Adolph Hipster
Nov 13 2016, 01:01 PM
Some conservatives love tyranny when its their guy
Some democrats cry when they lose tyranny.

That's how it goes comrade.
MEEK AND MILD
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peewee
Nov 14 2016, 12:54 AM
Adolph Hipster
Nov 13 2016, 01:01 PM
Some conservatives love tyranny when its their guy
We can hope that the house and the senate will hold Trump in check to some degree rather than let him go hog wild. Trump has an opportunity not enjoyed by a Republican President since 1928.
I do notice something that is endemic to ingroup/outgroup bias as it applies to our left-right model
When Bush made the Patriot act, lefties were all tripping about gubmint overeach and privacy while the cones were all like "if you gt nuthin' to hide, you aint got nuthin' to worry about
Then Obama won and righties were Posted Image yapping about tyranny
And now the script has been flipped again.

Hipster's Law concerning ingroup/outgroup behavior:
"An ingroup will condemn an action by a rival outgroup while justifying the same act committed by one of their own"
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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peewee
Nov 14 2016, 12:54 AM
Adolph Hipster
Nov 13 2016, 01:01 PM
Some conservatives love tyranny when its their guy
We can hope that the house and the senate will hold Trump in check to some degree rather than let him go hog wild. Trump has an opportunity not enjoyed by a Republican President since 1928.
Pee wee, help me out here because I keep hearing that 1928 statement but GWB after the 2004 election had Republican control of the house and Senate. In fact the Senate majority was larger. Was 1928 the last time a first term president had majorities in both houses? Frankly, that would make it an almost useless statistic.

Actually that complete control by one party in the 109th Congress led to some bad decisions and then the eventual backlash that gave us the 2008 election which flipped that paradigm.
Edited by Demagogue, Nov 14 2016, 03:09 AM.
People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would do them harm.
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Adolph Hipster
Nov 14 2016, 01:12 AM
peewee
Nov 14 2016, 12:54 AM
Adolph Hipster
Nov 13 2016, 01:01 PM
Some conservatives love tyranny when its their guy
We can hope that the house and the senate will hold Trump in check to some degree rather than let him go hog wild. Trump has an opportunity not enjoyed by a Republican President since 1928.
I do notice something that is endemic to ingroup/outgroup bias as it applies to our left-right model
When Bush made the Patriot act, lefties were all tripping about gubmint overeach and privacy while the cones were all like "if you gt nuthin' to hide, you aint got nuthin' to worry about
Then Obama won and righties were Posted Image yapping about tyranny
And now the script has been flipped again.

Hipster's Law concerning ingroup/outgroup behavior:
"An ingroup will condemn an action by a rival outgroup while justifying the same act committed by one of their own"


Confucius say, "It all depends on which side of the rifle barrel you are on"......... :lol:
Edited by Robert Stout, Nov 14 2016, 02:59 AM.
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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Suck it Up Buttercups. The hens have come home to roost for those who poo-poo'd the warnings of too much concentration of power within the executive branch. Short sighted Liberals here staunchly defended President Obama's unconstitutional non-recess recess appointments with little concern for the consequences we're facing now.

Even today, with no consideration of the powers they would be handing to Trump and a Republican congress, desperate liberals are petitioning the White House to reinterpret the 'advise and consent' clause to mean congress has forfeited it's right to consent on SCOTUS appointments.

Ringoism: Never underestimate the advantages of being underestimated.
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peewee
Nov 14 2016, 12:54 AM
Adolph Hipster
Nov 13 2016, 01:01 PM
Some conservatives love tyranny when its their guy
We can hope that the house and the senate will hold Trump in check to some degree rather than let him go hog wild. Trump has an opportunity not enjoyed by a Republican President since 1928.
Holding Trump "in check" has been the last gasp hope that his voters that held their noses used to justify their decision.
No one has held him "in check" his whole life.

No peewee, Congress will not hold Trump "in check" you bought that whole pig, not just the tenderloin. We are going to get the experience of an unchecked, unbleached Trump administration, backed by Congress and a SCOTUS whose tipping point is a Trump appointee.

Don't be sad. It's what you wanted.

"What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men." Captain, RP36

Ominous words.
Edited by CautionaryTales, Nov 14 2016, 06:16 AM.


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CautionaryTales
Nov 14 2016, 06:15 AM
peewee
Nov 14 2016, 12:54 AM
Adolph Hipster
Nov 13 2016, 01:01 PM
Some conservatives love tyranny when its their guy
We can hope that the house and the senate will hold Trump in check to some degree rather than let him go hog wild. Trump has an opportunity not enjoyed by a Republican President since 1928.
Holding Trump "in check" has been the last gasp hope that his voters that held their noses used to justify their decision.
No one has held him "in check" his whole life.

No peewee, Congress will not hold Trump "in check" you bought that whole pig, not just the tenderloin. We are going to get the experience of an unchecked, unbleached Trump administration, backed by Congress and a SCOTUS whose tipping point is a Trump appointee.

Don't be sad. It's what you wanted.

"What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men." Captain, RP36

Ominous words.
Sounds glorious! You forgot to add he has a majority of Republican Control at the state level!
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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"I'll be the fella to save his Cinderella,
by turnin' her dream world into real life."
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Harambe4Trump
Nov 14 2016, 06:21 AM
CautionaryTales
Nov 14 2016, 06:15 AM
peewee
Nov 14 2016, 12:54 AM
Adolph Hipster
Nov 13 2016, 01:01 PM
Some conservatives love tyranny when its their guy
We can hope that the house and the senate will hold Trump in check to some degree rather than let him go hog wild. Trump has an opportunity not enjoyed by a Republican President since 1928.
Holding Trump "in check" has been the last gasp hope that his voters that held their noses used to justify their decision.
No one has held him "in check" his whole life.

No peewee, Congress will not hold Trump "in check" you bought that whole pig, not just the tenderloin. We are going to get the experience of an unchecked, unbleached Trump administration, backed by Congress and a SCOTUS whose tipping point is a Trump appointee.

Don't be sad. It's what you wanted.

"What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men." Captain, RP36

Ominous words.
Sounds glorious! You forgot to add he has a majority of Republican Control at the state level!
Fashy, I hope I am thrilled with Trump over the next four years.
He is exactly what we need right now.
Not for your reasons.

He will be the giant dose of public Castor oil our society needs.
I had a stomach virus yesterday. Cleaned me out pretty good.
It'll be a lot like that.
Edited by CautionaryTales, Nov 14 2016, 08:19 AM.


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Adolph Hipster
Nov 13 2016, 01:01 PM
Some conservatives love tyranny when its their guy
FAP FAP FAP.
Ringoism: Never underestimate the advantages of being underestimated.
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ringotuna
Nov 14 2016, 05:30 AM
Suck it Up Buttercups. The hens have come home to roost for those who poo-poo'd the warnings of too much concentration of power within the executive branch. Short sighted Liberals here staunchly defended President Obama's unconstitutional non-recess recess appointments with little concern for the consequences we're facing now.

Even today, with no consideration of the powers they would be handing to Trump and a Republican congress, desperate liberals are petitioning the White House to reinterpret the 'advise and consent' clause to mean congress has forfeited it's right to consent on SCOTUS appointments.

Now liberals are all about some state's rights and limited government aren't they?
Donald Trump is Barack Obama's President!
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