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Giuliani Is A Leading Candidate To Be Trump’s Secretary Of State: Source
Topic Started: Nov 15 2016, 11:56 AM (675 Views)
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Nov 15 2016, 02:59 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:56 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:49 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:40 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:39 PM

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Yeah, we might get some coal jobs back or nuclear energy revitalized... we can't have that.
There are currently 4 new reactors under construction. There would have been more but the cost of natural gas got so low thanks to fracking that nuclear power did not make economic sense.
If utility monopolies stop lobbying to hamstring solar, we may not need to frack as much.
Trump would go up in my opinion if his anti lobby vibe were to adress this,
could you provide some evidence of hamstringing... do they just want to cut govt subsidies?
http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/blog/energy/2015/03/duke-energy-electricities-oppose-n-c-bill-to-let.html?page=all
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Nov 15 2016, 02:58 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:39 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 01:21 PM

Trump has indicated that on environmental issues he will be to the right of both Obama and GWB.
That sucks
Yeah, we might get some coal jobs back or nuclear energy revitalized... we can't have that.
LOL..and esto calls the left regressive
no, I think he calls them stupid... France is pretty socialist... any idea how much nuclear energy they use?
btw, France produces about 75% of their energy via nuclear. I believe they are a net exporter

http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-a-f/france.aspx
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Nov 15 2016, 02:40 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:39 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 01:21 PM

Trump has indicated that on environmental issues he will be to the right of both Obama and GWB.
That sucks
Yeah, we might get some coal jobs back or nuclear energy revitalized... we can't have that.
The only way coal will rebound is for natural gas fracking to come up short.
It isn't Obama that killed coal, it was the development of fracking technologies that replaced the less efficient coal process.

They will always need coal locally, but over the next decade it'll dwindle away as a primary power plant fuel due to the free market pressures that are being exerted with natural gas.



If you want to artificially support coal... go for it.


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Nov 15 2016, 01:28 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 01:23 PM
Who cares?
Most folks care. Even you do.

Once you get past the shock of Clinton losing it will matter. Trump won't be as bad as all the crazies on the super left fear he is but there will be policies that the left will feel obligated to oppose and they should. I expect all of you folks on board for that because his majority in the Senate is not a large one and a few people willing to work together could make a difference there.
Whoever it is, they will follow the direction of Putin's America Governor.
That's why it doesn't matter who does the job.



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It's a classic, but still worth another look.

SOS Giuliani visits Saudi Arabia...
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SOS Giuliani visits the Queen of England...
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Nov 15 2016, 03:08 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:59 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:56 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:40 PM

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There are currently 4 new reactors under construction. There would have been more but the cost of natural gas got so low thanks to fracking that nuclear power did not make economic sense.
If utility monopolies stop lobbying to hamstring solar, we may not need to frack as much.
Trump would go up in my opinion if his anti lobby vibe were to adress this,
could you provide some evidence of hamstringing... do they just want to cut govt subsidies?
http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/blog/energy/2015/03/duke-energy-electricities-oppose-n-c-bill-to-let.html?page=all
Yeah, forcing the Utility to pay the retail price that they charge for power is way over the top. Now if the individuals were being reimbursed at the rate that the utility pays to generate it's own power then that would be fair. It would also be around $0.11/kwh instead of the $0.03 that it actually costs a utility to generate power. The 8 cents extra is the cost of transmission and other things that are built into your bill.

My local utility in Florida proposed in 2011 that instead of paying people generating with solar $0.11/kwh they would pay $0.075/kwh. This is a bit more than they pay for solar generation from a couple local companies that built solar farms. That $0.075/kwh is still over double what it costs to make electricity using coal and natural gas but at least at that price point you are not going to be forced to make the people who don't have solar subsidize the people who do have solar.
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Nov 15 2016, 03:10 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:40 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:39 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 01:21 PM

Trump has indicated that on environmental issues he will be to the right of both Obama and GWB.
That sucks
Yeah, we might get some coal jobs back or nuclear energy revitalized... we can't have that.
The only way coal will rebound is for natural gas fracking to come up short.
It isn't Obama that killed coal, it was the development of fracking technologies that replaced the less efficient coal process.

They will always need coal locally, but over the next decade it'll dwindle away as a primary power plant fuel due to the free market pressures that are being exerted with natural gas.



If you want to artificially support coal... go for it.
Coal became unprofitable because of clean coal regs pursued by you know who... These tone deaf emmer effers could have cared less who they put out of work. They might care a little more now.

Do away with the EPA bs and let's see what happens
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Nov 15 2016, 03:10 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:40 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:39 PM
Demagogue
Nov 15 2016, 01:21 PM

Trump has indicated that on environmental issues he will be to the right of both Obama and GWB.
That sucks
Yeah, we might get some coal jobs back or nuclear energy revitalized... we can't have that.
The only way coal will rebound is for natural gas fracking to come up short.
It isn't Obama that killed coal, it was the development of fracking technologies that replaced the less efficient coal process.

They will always need coal locally, but over the next decade it'll dwindle away as a primary power plant fuel due to the free market pressures that are being exerted with natural gas.



If you want to artificially support coal... go for it.
Actually, Obama's EPA regulations have caused a number of coal power plants to limit or shut down production even though they were profitable plants. Those are just plants that I have personal involvement with. I have no idea what the toll is nation wide.

You do have a point about the natural gas thing though. We have a few coal plants in my area that once ran constantly year round with 6 week outages for maintenance. When gas is at absurdly low price points they don't run those plants because it would be foolish to do so. You run those plants when demand is through the roof and you can sell the power at the highest price.

Now, once we build enough gas turbines that the price of as goes back up (this actually happened in the 1990's before fraking was a thing) then you will see the coal plants needed full time again.
People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would do them harm.
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Nov 15 2016, 03:08 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:59 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:56 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:49 PM
jake58
Nov 15 2016, 02:40 PM

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There are currently 4 new reactors under construction. There would have been more but the cost of natural gas got so low thanks to fracking that nuclear power did not make economic sense.
If utility monopolies stop lobbying to hamstring solar, we may not need to frack as much.
Trump would go up in my opinion if his anti lobby vibe were to adress this,
could you provide some evidence of hamstringing... do they just want to cut govt subsidies?
http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/blog/energy/2015/03/duke-energy-electricities-oppose-n-c-bill-to-let.html?page=all
Only 7 states regulate 3rd party providers, you're not talking a big section of the market... and I find it fascinating that you want to loosen govt regulations... absolutely shocking stuff there, have you talked it over with your friends?

http://southeastenergynews.com/2016/06/20/year-old-battle-over-third-party-financing-continues-in-north-carolina/
That which can be asserted without evidence; can be dismissed without evidence- Christopher Hitchens
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Nov 15 2016, 01:21 PM
Trump's economic plan is not significantly different from that of GWB with the exception of where it intersects with trade and immigration. He does plan to lower corporate tax to a level below what GWB had and he seeks to attack certain loopholes that people in the upper brackets use and this especially applies to people in upper income brackets who do not create any product to earn their living.

Trump has stated he personally leans more toward state level decisions on many things but that is not the same as taking the federal government in a far more conservative direction socially.

Folks who are expecting Trump personally be considerably more conservative than GWB on social issues are probably going to be highly disappointed.

Trump has indicated that on environmental issues he will be to the right of both Obama and GWB.
that sounds fantastic
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Nov 15 2016, 12:58 PM
Not sure how I feel about John Bolton or Giuliani.
I'm sure how I feel about both. Bolton, they guy they call Old Yeller, is right wing nut case who wants to go war with anyone and everyone. Giuliani has been around long enough to make it clear that he was once a second-rater. He is now over the hill and senile. Still in love with himself though. Such bush league picks are surprising.
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Remember way back in 2007 when conservatives rejected Mayor Giuliani because he was a RINO?
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Giuliani is up to his eyebrows in the swamp, making passionate love to some some of the sleaziest alligators therein.
Giuliani Partners, a subsidiary of Giuliani’s consulting firm, provided advice to TransCanada, which is trying to build the Keystone XL pipeline that President Obama opposes but Donald Trump supports.They also represented a Singaporean gambling project that included a North Korean organized crime leader. His law firm Bracewell & Giuliani also lobbied on behalf of the Venezuelan-owned state oil company Citgo and Saudi Arabia’s oil ministry. And the big casino: in 2011, an exiled Iranian political party called the Mujahedin e-Khalq, known as the MEK, paid Giuliani to give a speech in Washington calling on the State Department to remove the group from its list of terrorist organizations.
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Nov 15 2016, 03:27 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 03:10 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:40 PM
Adolph Hipster
Nov 15 2016, 02:39 PM
Demagogue
Nov 15 2016, 01:21 PM

Trump has indicated that on environmental issues he will be to the right of both Obama and GWB.
That sucks
Yeah, we might get some coal jobs back or nuclear energy revitalized... we can't have that.
The only way coal will rebound is for natural gas fracking to come up short.
It isn't Obama that killed coal, it was the development of fracking technologies that replaced the less efficient coal process.

They will always need coal locally, but over the next decade it'll dwindle away as a primary power plant fuel due to the free market pressures that are being exerted with natural gas.



If you want to artificially support coal... go for it.
Actually, Obama's EPA regulations have caused a number of coal power plants to limit or shut down production even though they were profitable plants. Those are just plants that I have personal involvement with. I have no idea what the toll is nation wide.

You do have a point about the natural gas thing though. We have a few coal plants in my area that once ran constantly year round with 6 week outages for maintenance. When gas is at absurdly low price points they don't run those plants because it would be foolish to do so. You run those plants when demand is through the roof and you can sell the power at the highest price.

Now, once we build enough gas turbines that the price of as goes back up (this actually happened in the 1990's before fraking was a thing) then you will see the coal plants needed full time again.
Gonna be back to them good old days, I reckon...


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Nov 15 2016, 03:27 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 02:40 PM
Adolph Hipster
Nov 15 2016, 02:39 PM

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Yeah, we might get some coal jobs back or nuclear energy revitalized... we can't have that.
The only way coal will rebound is for natural gas fracking to come up short.
It isn't Obama that killed coal, it was the development of fracking technologies that replaced the less efficient coal process.

They will always need coal locally, but over the next decade it'll dwindle away as a primary power plant fuel due to the free market pressures that are being exerted with natural gas.



If you want to artificially support coal... go for it.
Actually, Obama's EPA regulations have caused a number of coal power plants to limit or shut down production even though they were profitable plants. Those are just plants that I have personal involvement with. I have no idea what the toll is nation wide.

You do have a point about the natural gas thing though. We have a few coal plants in my area that once ran constantly year round with 6 week outages for maintenance. When gas is at absurdly low price points they don't run those plants because it would be foolish to do so. You run those plants when demand is through the roof and you can sell the power at the highest price.

Now, once we build enough gas turbines that the price of as goes back up (this actually happened in the 1990's before fraking was a thing) then you will see the coal plants needed full time again.
Gonna be back to them good old days, I reckon...


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In modern clean coal installations there is no visible exhaust, no ash, no soot.

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Nov 15 2016, 07:19 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 07:08 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 03:27 PM
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Nov 15 2016, 03:10 PM
jake58
Nov 15 2016, 02:40 PM

Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
The only way coal will rebound is for natural gas fracking to come up short.
It isn't Obama that killed coal, it was the development of fracking technologies that replaced the less efficient coal process.

They will always need coal locally, but over the next decade it'll dwindle away as a primary power plant fuel due to the free market pressures that are being exerted with natural gas.



If you want to artificially support coal... go for it.
Actually, Obama's EPA regulations have caused a number of coal power plants to limit or shut down production even though they were profitable plants. Those are just plants that I have personal involvement with. I have no idea what the toll is nation wide.

You do have a point about the natural gas thing though. We have a few coal plants in my area that once ran constantly year round with 6 week outages for maintenance. When gas is at absurdly low price points they don't run those plants because it would be foolish to do so. You run those plants when demand is through the roof and you can sell the power at the highest price.

Now, once we build enough gas turbines that the price of as goes back up (this actually happened in the 1990's before fraking was a thing) then you will see the coal plants needed full time again.
Gonna be back to them good old days, I reckon...


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In modern clean coal installations there is no visible exhaust, no ash, no soot.

Modern clean coal installations make soot and ash at night when no one sees it............ ;)
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