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http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2016/11/15/twitter-suspends-alt-right-accounts/93943194/
SAN FRANCISCO — Twitter suspended a number of accounts associated with the alt-right movement, the same day the social media service said it would crack down on hate speech.
Among those suspended was Richard Spencer, who runs an alt-right think tank and had a verified account on Twitter.
The alt-right, a loosely organized group that espouses white nationalism, emerged as a counterpoint to mainstream conservatism and has flourished online. Spencer has said he wants blacks, Asians, Hispanics and Jews removed from the U.S.
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Nov 16 2016, 08:16 AM
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The 1st amendment is under attack. Richard Spencer threatens the corrupt and decadent.
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Nov 16 2016, 08:17 AM
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I am of two minds about this. In one hand, I disagree with these folks (I did not even know who they are) so the loss of their contributions simply does not have an effect on me. On the other hand it is a form of censorship but if their commentary has violated Twitter's policies I can not fault the company.
Lastly, to the views of the guy mentioned in the article.
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Spencer has said he wants blacks, Asians, Hispanics and Jews removed from the U.S.
I hate to break it to ya but that is not happening. He could on the other hand choose to move to a country with fewer people of another race if that would make him feel better.
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Nov 16 2016, 09:01 AM
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2016/11/15/twitter-suspends-alt-right-accounts/93943194/SAN FRANCISCO — Twitter suspended a number of accounts associated with the alt-right movement, the same day the social media service said it would crack down on hate speech. Among those suspended was Richard Spencer, who runs an alt-right think tank and had a verified account on Twitter. The alt-right, a loosely organized group that espouses white nationalism, emerged as a counterpoint to mainstream conservatism and has flourished online. Spencer has said he wants blacks, Asians, Hispanics and Jews removed from the U.S. Call them what they are, White Power Nationalists.
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Have you paid your internet taxes?
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Nov 16 2016, 09:28 AM
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2016/11/15/twitter-suspends-alt-right-accounts/93943194/SAN FRANCISCO — Twitter suspended a number of accounts associated with the alt-right movement, the same day the social media service said it would crack down on hate speech. Among those suspended was Richard Spencer, who runs an alt-right think tank and had a verified account on Twitter. The alt-right, a loosely organized group that espouses white nationalism, emerged as a counterpoint to mainstream conservatism and has flourished online. Spencer has said he wants blacks, Asians, Hispanics and Jews removed from the U.S.
Call them what they are, White Power Nationalists. Most of these "alt right accounts" attract readership with outrageous comments solely to push their paid commercial advertising...They are spam, not political...Only a devout SJW would be fooled to believe that Twitter has gotten into attacking the alt-right.............
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Nov 16 2016, 09:32 AM
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If "they" are going to remove idiots like Spencer (whoever the 'f' he is), then 'they' should also remove all anarchists, communists and far left wing flame throwers (like Van Jones) who calls everyone and anyone who disagree's with their point of view, ...a racist.
Fair is fair.
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Nov 16 2016, 09:36 AM
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If "they" are going to remove idiots like Spencer (whoever the 'f' he is), then 'they' should also remove all anarchists, communists and far left wing flame throwers (like Van Jones) who calls everyone and anyone who disagree's with their point of view, ...a racist.
Fair is fair.
Mozart I agree. Only I was thinking of the enviro terrorist types who have twitter accounts along with those inciting violence against police as well as those causing the current rioting in the nation. All of these folks should probably be censored if they are going to start censoring dangerous speech.
Like I said, I don't know if these people violated a particular policy of Twitter. I don't really use that outlet so I can not accurately comment on it beyond the areas where tweets have become national news at times.
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Nov 16 2016, 09:46 AM
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Other English-speaking democracies have recognized the boundary between hate speech and free speech for years. The closest we came was the old fire-in-a-crowded-theater bromide. Our development has been so slow because we have the biggest, most contentious racial divides in our peer group -- with the exception of South Africa. We also have the greatest number of rich guys making a buck off mob passion.
The good news: inflamed bigotry has done its job for the new Republican administration and has now reached the point where it is bad for business. One wonders if Trump will have any luck getting the tiger back in its cage. I rather doubt it.
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Nov 16 2016, 09:49 AM
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Other English-speaking democracies have recognized the boundary between hate speech and free speech for years. The closest we came was the old fire-in-a-crowded-theater bromide. Our development has been so slow because we have the biggest, most contentious racial divides in our peer group -- with the exception of South Africa. We also have the greatest number of rich guys making a buck off mob passion.
The good news: inflamed bigotry has done its job for the new Republican administration and has now reached the point where it is bad for business. One wonders if Trump will have any luck getting the tiger back in its cage. I rather doubt it. Other nations have gone way, way too far in protecting people from words.
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Nov 16 2016, 09:54 AM
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Other English-speaking democracies have recognized the boundary between hate speech and free speech for years. The closest we came was the old fire-in-a-crowded-theater bromide. Our development has been so slow because we have the biggest, most contentious racial divides in our peer group -- with the exception of South Africa. We also have the greatest number of rich guys making a buck off mob passion.
The good news: inflamed bigotry has done its job for the new Republican administration and has now reached the point where it is bad for business. One wonders if Trump will have any luck getting the tiger back in its cage. I rather doubt it. Other English speaking countries are run by SJW liberals with peculiar definitions of hate speech and bigotry...I look forward to their becoming alt-right............
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Nov 16 2016, 10:35 AM
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If they want to remove hate-filled accounts then they have their work cut out for them, it extends far beyond the alt-right and not just from right-wing groups either.
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Nov 16 2016, 12:18 PM
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Other English-speaking democracies have recognized the boundary between hate speech and free speech for years. The closest we came was the old fire-in-a-crowded-theater bromide. Our development has been so slow because we have the biggest, most contentious racial divides in our peer group -- with the exception of South Africa. We also have the greatest number of rich guys making a buck off mob passion.
The good news: inflamed bigotry has done its job for the new Republican administration and has now reached the point where it is bad for business. One wonders if Trump will have any luck getting the tiger back in its cage. I rather doubt it.
Other nations have gone way, way too far in protecting people from words. Other nations have had direct experience with the harsh reality that words kill people. That beloved conservative doctrine of American exceptionalism can be invoked to set aside the policies of "other nations" because we have yet to undergo the modern experience of civil war instigated through media propaganda of the sort that devastated Europe.
Hate speech is a bad idea but it is likely to burn folks on both ends of the stick. Trump fans are celebrating the demographic chasm which they believe has given them electoral victory. This may turn out to be a short-sighted perspective. Our nation has been torn apart before and hateful rhetoric on both sides played a significant part in the tragedy. Government became irreconcilably factionalized, driven to extremist positions and disaster.
Hating Muslims, calling the President's wife "an ape" and chanting "Jew - S - A" isn't going to help the country.
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Nov 16 2016, 12:34 PM
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Other English-speaking democracies have recognized the boundary between hate speech and free speech for years. The closest we came was the old fire-in-a-crowded-theater bromide. Our development has been so slow because we have the biggest, most contentious racial divides in our peer group -- with the exception of South Africa. We also have the greatest number of rich guys making a buck off mob passion.
The good news: inflamed bigotry has done its job for the new Republican administration and has now reached the point where it is bad for business. One wonders if Trump will have any luck getting the tiger back in its cage. I rather doubt it.
Other nations have gone way, way too far in protecting people from words.
Other nations have had direct experience with the harsh reality that words kill people. That beloved conservative doctrine of American exceptionalism can be invoked to set aside the policies of "other nations" because we have yet to undergo the modern experience of civil war instigated through media propaganda of the sort that devastated Europe. Hate speech is a bad idea but it is likely to burn folks on both ends of the stick. Trump fans are celebrating the demographic chasm which they believe has given them electoral victory. This may turn out to be a short-sighted perspective. Our nation has been torn apart before and hateful rhetoric on both sides played a significant part in the tragedy. Government became irreconcilably factionalized, driven to extremist positions and disaster. Hating Muslims, calling the President's wife "an ape" and chanting "Jew - S - A" isn't going to help the country. Indeed, I don't disagree that such speech does not help the country but cracking down on speech simply causes those people to hide how they feel allowing their anger to build. I would much rather know that people hold these feelings. The enemy you know is the enemy you can guard against.
The people you are talking about here are a very small but vocal minority of the populace. It is better for society to be able to see their depravities in the open. When you start stifling speech you end up on the road to book burning and either Communism or Fascism.
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Nov 16 2016, 01:47 PM
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I understand the concern over fake news.
How about the fake promises that you can keep your doctor and health plan?
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Notice - ISIS is still allowed to recruit on twitter.
That should tell you everything you need to know.
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Other English-speaking democracies have recognized the boundary between hate speech and free speech for years. The closest we came was the old fire-in-a-crowded-theater bromide. Our development has been so slow because we have the biggest, most contentious racial divides in our peer group -- with the exception of South Africa. We also have the greatest number of rich guys making a buck off mob passion.
The good news: inflamed bigotry has done its job for the new Republican administration and has now reached the point where it is bad for business. One wonders if Trump will have any luck getting the tiger back in its cage. I rather doubt it.
Other nations have gone way, way too far in protecting people from words.
Other nations have had direct experience with the harsh reality that words kill people. That beloved conservative doctrine of American exceptionalism can be invoked to set aside the policies of "other nations" because we have yet to undergo the modern experience of civil war instigated through media propaganda of the sort that devastated Europe. Hate speech is a bad idea but it is likely to burn folks on both ends of the stick. Trump fans are celebrating the demographic chasm which they believe has given them electoral victory. This may turn out to be a short-sighted perspective. Our nation has been torn apart before and hateful rhetoric on both sides played a significant part in the tragedy. Government became irreconcilably factionalized, driven to extremist positions and disaster. Hating Muslims, calling the President's wife "an ape" and chanting "Jew - S - A" isn't going to help the country.
Indeed, I don't disagree that such speech does not help the country but cracking down on speech simply causes those people to hide how they feel allowing their anger to build. I would much rather know that people hold these feelings. The enemy you know is the enemy you can guard against. The people you are talking about here are a very small but vocal minority of the populace. It is better for society to be able to see their depravities in the open. When you start stifling speech you end up on the road to book burning and either Communism or Fascism. I agree with you that the numbers of hate-speakers is a small fraction of the population. The dangers come from the much larger penumbra of people who take direction and authorization from seeing the violent rhetoric enjoying a prominence which they interpret as respectability.
We live in a different world from the good old days when some hooded demagogue could stand on the courthouse steps and rant against the "goddamn n*gg*rs" to a crowd of a few dozen local farmers. I was talking yesterday with a couple of Americans who have just returned from a two year gig an an elite prep school in Jordan. They told me that the number of parents now planning to send their kids to the USA for college -- the normal route at the school -- has plummeted to an all-time low because of fear for their kids' safety here.
I don't say the fear is thoroughly justified, but the conversation is a reminder that a lot more people are listening to US news than we may realize.
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Note: they don't seem to be censoring "The Alt Left"
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Notice - ISIS is still allowed to recruit on twitter.
That should tell you everything you need to know. ISIS isn't a threat to the illegitimate political order of the West. The Alt Right and Donald Trump are.
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Other English-speaking democracies have recognized the boundary between hate speech and free speech for years. The closest we came was the old fire-in-a-crowded-theater bromide. Our development has been so slow because we have the biggest, most contentious racial divides in our peer group -- with the exception of South Africa. We also have the greatest number of rich guys making a buck off mob passion.
The good news: inflamed bigotry has done its job for the new Republican administration and has now reached the point where it is bad for business. One wonders if Trump will have any luck getting the tiger back in its cage. I rather doubt it.
Other nations have gone way, way too far in protecting people from words.
Other nations have had direct experience with the harsh reality that words kill people. That beloved conservative doctrine of American exceptionalism can be invoked to set aside the policies of "other nations" because we have yet to undergo the modern experience of civil war instigated through media propaganda of the sort that devastated Europe. Hate speech is a bad idea but it is likely to burn folks on both ends of the stick. Trump fans are celebrating the demographic chasm which they believe has given them electoral victory. This may turn out to be a short-sighted perspective. Our nation has been torn apart before and hateful rhetoric on both sides played a significant part in the tragedy. Government became irreconcilably factionalized, driven to extremist positions and disaster. Hating Muslims, calling the President's wife "an ape" and chanting "Jew - S - A" isn't going to help the country.
Indeed, I don't disagree that such speech does not help the country but cracking down on speech simply causes those people to hide how they feel allowing their anger to build. I would much rather know that people hold these feelings. The enemy you know is the enemy you can guard against. The people you are talking about here are a very small but vocal minority of the populace. It is better for society to be able to see their depravities in the open. When you start stifling speech you end up on the road to book burning and either Communism or Fascism.
I agree with you that the numbers of hate-speakers is a small fraction of the population. The dangers come from the much larger penumbra of people who take direction and authorization from seeing the violent rhetoric enjoying a prominence which they interpret as respectability. We live in a different world from the good old days when some hooded demagogue could stand on the courthouse steps and rant against the "goddamn n*gg*rs" to a crowd of a few dozen local farmers. I was talking yesterday with a couple of Americans who have just returned from a two year gig an an elite prep school in Jordan. They told me that the number of parents now planning to send their kids to the USA for college -- the normal route at the school -- has plummeted to an all-time low because of fear for their kids' safety here. I don't say the fear is thoroughly justified, but the conversation is a reminder that a lot more people are listening to US news than we may realize. Americans living in small towns, nay in the suburbs of major metros, will be none the worst from that.
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Other nations have had direct experience with the harsh reality that words kill people. That beloved conservative doctrine of American exceptionalism can be invoked to set aside the policies of "other nations" because we have yet to undergo the modern experience of civil war instigated through media propaganda of the sort that devastated Europe. Hate speech is a bad idea but it is likely to burn folks on both ends of the stick. Trump fans are celebrating the demographic chasm which they believe has given them electoral victory. This may turn out to be a short-sighted perspective. Our nation has been torn apart before and hateful rhetoric on both sides played a significant part in the tragedy. Government became irreconcilably factionalized, driven to extremist positions and disaster. Hating Muslims, calling the President's wife "an ape" and chanting "Jew - S - A" isn't going to help the country.
Indeed, I don't disagree that such speech does not help the country but cracking down on speech simply causes those people to hide how they feel allowing their anger to build. I would much rather know that people hold these feelings. The enemy you know is the enemy you can guard against. The people you are talking about here are a very small but vocal minority of the populace. It is better for society to be able to see their depravities in the open. When you start stifling speech you end up on the road to book burning and either Communism or Fascism.
I agree with you that the numbers of hate-speakers is a small fraction of the population. The dangers come from the much larger penumbra of people who take direction and authorization from seeing the violent rhetoric enjoying a prominence which they interpret as respectability. We live in a different world from the good old days when some hooded demagogue could stand on the courthouse steps and rant against the "goddamn n*gg*rs" to a crowd of a few dozen local farmers. I was talking yesterday with a couple of Americans who have just returned from a two year gig an an elite prep school in Jordan. They told me that the number of parents now planning to send their kids to the USA for college -- the normal route at the school -- has plummeted to an all-time low because of fear for their kids' safety here. I don't say the fear is thoroughly justified, but the conversation is a reminder that a lot more people are listening to US news than we may realize.
Americans living in small towns, nay in the suburbs of major metros, will be none the worst from that. The global impact of American hate speech is more subtly effective than may be apparent in the daily routine of uninterested citizens. The military and economic consequences of world opinion are very real. The isolationist sentiment is understandable but the harsh reality is that our leaders are not giving Americans the option of isolation. We are in it up to our eyebrows all around the world and whether you choose to call our presence the American Empire or Leader of the Free World, the average American is paying for a military system as costly as that of the next five biggest military powers added together. It can also result in his son coming home in a box.
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