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We have 100 days to stop Donald Trump from systemically corrupting our institutions The transition period is our last best chance to save the republic; This is how Vladimir Putin governs Russia, and how the Mubarak/Sisi regime rules Egypt.
Topic Started: Nov 17 2016, 05:12 PM (672 Views)
Attaburnsinhell

The country has entered a dangerous period. The president-elect is the least qualified man to ever hold high office. He also operated the least transparent campaign of the modern era. He gave succor and voice to bigoted elements on a scale not seen in two generations. He openly praised dictators — not as allies but as dictators — and threatened to use the powers of his office to discipline the media.

He also has a long history of corrupt behavior, and his business holdings pose staggering conflicts of interest that are exacerbated by his lack of financial disclosure. But while most journalists and members of the opposition party think they understand the threat of Trump-era corruption, they are in fact drastically underestimating it. When we talk about corruption in the modern United States, we have in mind what Andrei Shleifer and Robert Vishny define as “the sale by government officials of government property for personal gain.”

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/17/13626514/trump-systemic-corruption
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I'm hearing a cry for help and I'm ready to do just that. Take your pick atta, coloring books, Play-Doh or puppies....

By the way, why are we still concerned about Hillary, she did lose, right?
Edited by PATruth, Nov 17 2016, 05:40 PM.
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Many of Obama's policies can and will be undone with the stroke of a pen - same way they were implemented
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Nov 17 2016, 05:37 PM
I'm hearing a cry for help and I'm ready to do just that. Take your pick atta, coloring books, Play-Doh or puppies....

By the way, why are we still concerned about Hillary, she did lose, right?
Well look who finally crawled out from under his rock when he decided it was safe to come out again
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This is the classic worry about campaign contributions or revolving doors — the fear that wealthy interests can give money to public officials and in exchange receive favorable treatment from the political system. But in a classic essay on “The Concept of Systemic Corruption in American History,” the economist John Joseph Wallis reminds us that in the Revolutionary Era and during the founding of the republic, Americans worried about something different. Not the venal corruption we are accustomed to thinking about, but what he calls systemic corruption. He writes that 18th-century thinkers “worried much more that the king and his ministers were manipulating grants of economic privileges to secure political support for a corrupt and unconstitutional usurpation of government powers.”

We are used to corruption in which the rich buy political favor. What we need to learn to fear is corruption in which political favor becomes the primary driver of economic success.

Many American administrations have featured acts of venal corruption, and Trump’s will likely feature more than most. The larger risk, however, is that Trump’s lack of grounding in ideological principles or party networks will create a systemically corrupt government. Such governments, Wallis writes, “are rent creating, not rent seeking, governments” that operate by “limiting access to markets and resources in order to create rents that bind the interests of the ruling coalition together.”

This is how Vladimir Putin governs Russia, and how the Mubarak/Sisi regime rules Egypt. To be a successful businessman in a systemically corrupt regime and to be a close supporter of the regime are one and the same thing.



This is way over the heads of the dummies who voted for Trump





Edited by Attaburnsinhell, Nov 17 2016, 05:53 PM.
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You know, it is almost comical to read the concerns of leftists who fear that if they act in opposition to Trump they might face an environment that puts a "chill" on that type of opposition in the form of either doxxing or harassment.

The reason I say it is comical is because these are the vary same people who doxxed entire communities of gun owners by releasing their addresses. The reason I find their fear of a "hostile" environment comical is because I seem to remember the exact same people cheering the firing of a professor who said something that was not PC enough for them. Just this week the same individuals were cheering the forced resignation of a small town mayor because the woman said that the First Lady looked like an ape in a dress.

So what the folks seem to fear is their own tactics being used against them. Tactics that they have been employing in the name of Political Correctness for decades.

Of course none of their fears are going to come true. Trump is a NY liberal. He did not suddenly turn into a skin head after spending his entire life as a guy from New York. Certainly he is going to roll back a bunch of Obama's Executive Order regulations but the world will not end over those.

Take a break my fearful liberal friends. The world is not ending. This too shall pass.
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Nov 17 2016, 06:05 PM
You know, it is almost comical to read the concerns of leftists who fear that if they act in opposition to Trump they might face an environment that puts a "chill" on that type of opposition in the form of either doxxing or harassment.

The reason I say it is comical is because these are the vary same people who doxxed entire communities of gun owners by releasing their addresses. The reason I find their fear of a "hostile" environment comical is because I seem to remember the exact same people cheering the firing of a professor who said something that was not PC enough for them. Just this week the same individuals were cheering the forced resignation of a small town mayor because the woman said that the First Lady looked like an ape in a dress.

So what the folks seem to fear is their own tactics being used against them. Tactics that they have been employing in the name of Political Correctness for decades.

Of course none of their fears are going to come true. Trump is a NY liberal. He did not suddenly turn into a skin head after spending his entire life as a guy from New York. Certainly he is going to roll back a bunch of Obama's Executive Order regulations but the world will not end over those.

Take a break my fearful liberal friends. The world is not ending. This too shall pass.
Boy are you out of the loop. I knew this article would go over your heads

Trump's way is to put crony capitalism on steroids, based on the Putin model. It's an intimidation racket. In Russia a free press no longer exists, due to so many reporters suffering fatal ''accidents''. Oligarchs get rich by playing ball with Putin, conversely if you don't, you're pretty much ruined and bankrupt, seeing that Putin has his hands on the levers of power and regulation. It's a similar racket in other tinpot tyrannies. Well, it's come to America. Sad to see a once great country fall to this level
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Attaburnsinhell
Nov 17 2016, 06:49 PM
Demagogue
Nov 17 2016, 06:05 PM
You know, it is almost comical to read the concerns of leftists who fear that if they act in opposition to Trump they might face an environment that puts a "chill" on that type of opposition in the form of either doxxing or harassment.

The reason I say it is comical is because these are the vary same people who doxxed entire communities of gun owners by releasing their addresses. The reason I find their fear of a "hostile" environment comical is because I seem to remember the exact same people cheering the firing of a professor who said something that was not PC enough for them. Just this week the same individuals were cheering the forced resignation of a small town mayor because the woman said that the First Lady looked like an ape in a dress.

So what the folks seem to fear is their own tactics being used against them. Tactics that they have been employing in the name of Political Correctness for decades.

Of course none of their fears are going to come true. Trump is a NY liberal. He did not suddenly turn into a skin head after spending his entire life as a guy from New York. Certainly he is going to roll back a bunch of Obama's Executive Order regulations but the world will not end over those.

Take a break my fearful liberal friends. The world is not ending. This too shall pass.
Boy are you out of the loop. I knew this article would go over your heads

Trump's way is to put crony capitalism on steroids, based on the Putin model. It's an intimidation racket. In Russia a free press no longer exists, due to so many reporters suffering fatal ''accidents''. Oligarchs get rich by playing ball with Putin, conversely if you don't, you're pretty much ruined and bankrupt, seeing that Putin has his hands on the levers of power and regulation. It's a similar racket in other tinpot tyrannies. Well, it's come to America. Sad to see a once great country fall to this level
Oh, the article did not go over my head. In fact, I evidently comprehended more of it than you did.

I just don't share your concerns because I am aware that we live in a Republic. In a nation of laws, getting away with what you are suggesting is difficult. It is why the founders gave us a Republic. The author started out on the track you want to talk about but he ended up being concerned about the same tactics that the PC crowd has been using for the past couple decades if applied by a greater overall racist society. The problem with his whole concept is first the rule of law and then the fact that we do not live in an overall racist society.

The things that have happened in Russia can not really happen here due to the nature of our constitution and the requirements to change that constitution.

Hence the reason I said your fears are irrational.
Edited by Demagogue, Nov 17 2016, 07:04 PM.
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Attaburnsinhell
Nov 17 2016, 06:49 PM
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Nov 17 2016, 06:05 PM
You know, it is almost comical to read the concerns of leftists who fear that if they act in opposition to Trump they might face an environment that puts a "chill" on that type of opposition in the form of either doxxing or harassment.

The reason I say it is comical is because these are the vary same people who doxxed entire communities of gun owners by releasing their addresses. The reason I find their fear of a "hostile" environment comical is because I seem to remember the exact same people cheering the firing of a professor who said something that was not PC enough for them. Just this week the same individuals were cheering the forced resignation of a small town mayor because the woman said that the First Lady looked like an ape in a dress.

So what the folks seem to fear is their own tactics being used against them. Tactics that they have been employing in the name of Political Correctness for decades.

Of course none of their fears are going to come true. Trump is a NY liberal. He did not suddenly turn into a skin head after spending his entire life as a guy from New York. Certainly he is going to roll back a bunch of Obama's Executive Order regulations but the world will not end over those.

Take a break my fearful liberal friends. The world is not ending. This too shall pass.
Boy are you out of the loop. I knew this article would go over your heads

Trump's way is to put crony capitalism on steroids, based on the Putin model. It's an intimidation racket. In Russia a free press no longer exists, due to so many reporters suffering fatal ''accidents''. Oligarchs get rich by playing ball with Putin, conversely if you don't, you're pretty much ruined and bankrupt, seeing that Putin has his hands on the levers of power and regulation. It's a similar racket in other tinpot tyrannies. Well, it's come to America. Sad to see a once great country fall to this level
Wow... just wow...

I guess when we see Rachel Maddow shot to death in an elevator we'll know you were right. Until then... :moonbat:
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HOLY F*CK!!! YOU GUYS ARE WORRIED ABOUT CORRUPTION YET YOU VOTED FOR CLINTON....SERIOUSLY YOU GUYS ARE CERTIFIABLY F*CKING INSANE!!!
Donald Trump is Barack Obama's President!
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Nov 17 2016, 07:48 PM
HOLY F*CK!!! YOU GUYS ARE WORRIED ABOUT CORRUPTION YET YOU VOTED FOR CLINTON....SERIOUSLY YOU GUYS ARE CERTIFIABLY F*CKING INSANE!!!
HOLY xxxx! YOU GUYS CLAIMED CLINTON WAS CORRUPT BUT YOU VOTED FOR SOMEONE WHO'S TEN TIMES WORSE! AND A RAPIST TO BOOT!
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Nov 17 2016, 07:48 PM
HOLY F*CK!!! YOU GUYS ARE WORRIED ABOUT CORRUPTION YET YOU VOTED FOR CLINTON....SERIOUSLY YOU GUYS ARE CERTIFIABLY F*CKING INSANE!!!
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The leftist panic is off the chart now...

We've seized the throne and you are not getting it back.

You're going to love the change, real change.



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Edited by Alt Right PEPE, Nov 17 2016, 11:04 PM.
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Attaburnsinhell
Nov 17 2016, 08:07 PM
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Nov 17 2016, 07:48 PM
HOLY F*CK!!! YOU GUYS ARE WORRIED ABOUT CORRUPTION YET YOU VOTED FOR CLINTON....SERIOUSLY YOU GUYS ARE CERTIFIABLY F*CKING INSANE!!!
HOLY xxxx! YOU GUYS CLAIMED CLINTON WAS CORRUPT BUT YOU VOTED FOR SOMEONE WHO'S TEN TIMES WORSE! AND A RAPIST TO BOOT!
Who did Trump rape and why wasn't he ever charged?
MEEK AND MILD
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I think its time the SS pay a visit to Atta's house.
MEEK AND MILD
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Nov 17 2016, 06:58 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Nov 17 2016, 06:49 PM
Demagogue
Nov 17 2016, 06:05 PM
You know, it is almost comical to read the concerns of leftists who fear that if they act in opposition to Trump they might face an environment that puts a "chill" on that type of opposition in the form of either doxxing or harassment.

The reason I say it is comical is because these are the vary same people who doxxed entire communities of gun owners by releasing their addresses. The reason I find their fear of a "hostile" environment comical is because I seem to remember the exact same people cheering the firing of a professor who said something that was not PC enough for them. Just this week the same individuals were cheering the forced resignation of a small town mayor because the woman said that the First Lady looked like an ape in a dress.

So what the folks seem to fear is their own tactics being used against them. Tactics that they have been employing in the name of Political Correctness for decades.

Of course none of their fears are going to come true. Trump is a NY liberal. He did not suddenly turn into a skin head after spending his entire life as a guy from New York. Certainly he is going to roll back a bunch of Obama's Executive Order regulations but the world will not end over those.

Take a break my fearful liberal friends. The world is not ending. This too shall pass.
Boy are you out of the loop. I knew this article would go over your heads

Trump's way is to put crony capitalism on steroids, based on the Putin model. It's an intimidation racket. In Russia a free press no longer exists, due to so many reporters suffering fatal ''accidents''. Oligarchs get rich by playing ball with Putin, conversely if you don't, you're pretty much ruined and bankrupt, seeing that Putin has his hands on the levers of power and regulation. It's a similar racket in other tinpot tyrannies. Well, it's come to America. Sad to see a once great country fall to this level
Oh, the article did not go over my head. In fact, I evidently comprehended more of it than you did.

I just don't share your concerns because I am aware that we live in a Republic. In a nation of laws, getting away with what you are suggesting is difficult. It is why the founders gave us a Republic. The author started out on the track you want to talk about but he ended up being concerned about the same tactics that the PC crowd has been using for the past couple decades if applied by a greater overall racist society. The problem with his whole concept is first the rule of law and then the fact that we do not live in an overall racist society.

The things that have happened in Russia can not really happen here due to the nature of our constitution and the requirements to change that constitution.

Hence the reason I said your fears are irrational.
When you have one party rule, one can change the laws at will, even the constitution

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America will go the way of Iran under a christian fascist theocracy


I've read a lot of silly stuff on this blog, but THAT may take the cake!

A Christian fascist theocracy...?


Mozart
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Nov 17 2016, 11:04 PM
I think its time the SS pay a visit to Atta's house.
Atta can bite down on the capsule or take a bullet to the head ???.................... :confused:
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