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| Hillary Clinton Calls On Congress, Silicon Valley To Address Fake News “Epidemic” | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 9 2016, 07:00 AM (2,245 Views) | |
| CautionaryTales | Dec 9 2016, 07:00 AM Post #1 |
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Hillary Clinton on Thursday urged Congress and leaders in Silicon Valley to tackle the “epidemic of fake news,” telling Republican and Democratic lawmakers it’s an issue that can impact both sides of the political aisle. https://www.buzzfeed.com/salvadorhernandez/hillary-clinton-calls-on-congress-silicon-valley-to-address?utm_term=.lgmeKwWxE#.dcgBDL7qv |
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| CautionaryTales | Dec 9 2016, 07:01 AM Post #2 |
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When made up "news" becomes this big a problem it benefits everyone to solve that problem. It's a public problem, not just a political one. |
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| ringotuna | Dec 9 2016, 07:07 AM Post #3 |
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Despite being a strong advocate of journalistic integrity, I find this to be very dangerous territory. Tread carefully. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 9 2016, 07:37 AM Post #4 |
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She doesn't get it. I understand her butthurt, but in hindsight her own campaign, and her, were the problem. They managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. |
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| ringotuna | Dec 9 2016, 08:29 AM Post #5 |
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Thanks Hillary...Thanks a lot. :oyvey
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| W A Mozart | Dec 9 2016, 08:37 AM Post #6 |
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I feel that "all of us" can get together on this issue! Let's all form a circle, bow our heads, begin humming 'kumbahya' and hold hands and demand that CNN, ABC, BBC, CBS and MSNBC stop spewing "fake news" to its audiences! Mozart |
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| ringotuna | Dec 9 2016, 09:15 AM Post #7 |
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Anyone else see the irony of this lyin scum yammering about fake news?
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| Opinionated | Dec 9 2016, 09:24 AM Post #8 |
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I believe the concern is valid. I question whether Hillary Clinton is the best spokesperson for this concern. |
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| ringotuna | Dec 9 2016, 09:27 AM Post #9 |
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^^^ that ^^^ |
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| CautionaryTales | Dec 9 2016, 09:51 AM Post #10 |
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The problem is real. Just because you don't like Clinton mentioning it, it is something that is bad for everyone. Even those that have taken advantage of it are vulnerable to its dangers. |
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| ringotuna | Dec 9 2016, 09:54 AM Post #11 |
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I think you're confused here CT. I love seeing Hillary mention it.. It shines a spotlight on her gross hypocrisy. |
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| PATruth | Dec 9 2016, 09:57 AM Post #12 |
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Hillary is just mad because she didn't think about using more fake news against Trump, the woman is about as amoral is it gets. The Clinton's have a long record of manipulating the news and destroying their political enemies. As for fake news I can live with it, it's better than the government deciding what's real news and what should be censored. |
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| George Aligator | Dec 9 2016, 09:58 AM Post #13 |
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I agree and would add that Congressional action has a bad feel to it as well. The idea of government deciding which news is fake and which is legitmate has real First Amendment problems. What is missing is adequate editorial control of TV news programming and a common sense censorship policy on sites like Facebook. The Constitution guarantees freedom of speech and of the press. TV channels and Internet sites are not covered the way public meetings and newspapers are. These media have come under the social and economic pressures that make serving up obscene fake news like Pizzagate good for business and good politics. The heavy hand of government should be a last resort. An informed and involved citizenry should do the trick. P.com is swept up in this issue, so posts here have direct relevance. Perhaps if our mods can get a handle on this problem, Trump can appoint them to the FCC to show the rest of America how to fix it. Edited by George Aligator, Dec 9 2016, 09:59 AM.
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| CautionaryTales | Dec 9 2016, 10:03 AM Post #14 |
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She's old news. She is no longer a threat to any of you. The fake news did its job on her. Her point is a valid one. She has first hand knowledge of the damage it can cause at a personal level. You can either pay attention to the danger it poses, or you can wallow in your hate of Clinton. Wallowing won't do anything to address the problem of fake news and will only help to keep it going. You are better served in looking forward and stop worrying about Clinton ever being a major political player again. |
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| Opinionated | Dec 9 2016, 10:04 AM Post #15 |
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The problem with Clinton self designating herself as the spokesperson for this topic is that it comes across, even if that is not her motivation, as though she is attempting to blame her electoral loss on fake news. That means a significant percentage of the public are going to equate Hillary Clinton's butthurt (at least as they see it) to a BS attack on news they don't consider fake. That doesn't help things. |
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| BuckFan | Dec 9 2016, 10:40 AM Post #16 |
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I disagree. While her campaign's failure to address economic issues was its number one problem, fake news and the constant stream of false information that found a foothold on the Internet and then migrated into common discourse on cable TV was probably number two. The campaign had to spend most of it's time stamping down the fires created by this fake news and disinformation campaign which took away from the discussion of real policies. The bigger problem is that there has become an element of national campaigns that rely on creating and building a false narrative. We saw this with Kerry and the Swiftboaters, Gore and environmental issues and now Clinton. It seems our national discourse is now focused on attack politics and outright lies. While both sides are involved in this tactic it seems one side has raised the level of this effort to a new high (or low) with an established network of Internet, radio and now cable TV outlets that feed off each other and spread the "gospel" and then attack journalistic media outlets that operate under standard journalistic ethics as "MSM" as if checking facts and countering misinformation is somehow biased. |
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| Drudge X | Dec 9 2016, 10:48 AM Post #17 |
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Had she won, this would be a non issue. |
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| CautionaryTales | Dec 9 2016, 10:54 AM Post #18 |
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I would disagree. She is probably the best example of what fake news damage can cause. You don't like her, I get that, but it doesn't invalidate her warning that fake news is a real problem that needs some attention. Look beyond your dislike of the message and consider the validity of the message. |
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| Opinionated | Dec 9 2016, 11:10 AM Post #19 |
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Her warning isn't invalid. It just won't be listened to by a large percentage of people. And the goal should be, when dealing with most any topic, is not necessarily to have a victim of the problem speak out, but someone who will actually be listened to. Take Al Gore for example. He has made climate change his personal crusade. The problem is that he was already heavily identified as being a Democrat and a large number of people disliked him on that basis alone. Once he started crusading against climate change, their dislike of him became associated with climate change so that they became even more resistant to believing in it. And as a consequence climate change preventative action hasn't advanced as far as it might have otherwise. Identifying something that is a universal problem with someone heavily identified with the Democratic party tends to generate resistance that might not otherwise be there. And that's why I think Hillary Clinton is not the right spokesperson when it comes to fake new. The Republicans/conservatives are going to see her as acting out of butthurt, poopoo the problem as being of no significance, and identify it in their minds as one of those "pretend" problems Democrats always come up with. |
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| CautionaryTales | Dec 9 2016, 11:13 AM Post #20 |
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She not a spokesperson. She has the right to voice her opinion and in this case it's a pretty solid point she is making. The danger of fake news is the issue here, not who is warning us about it. The Republicans would be smart to listen because they are as vulnerable as Clinton was. Edited by CautionaryTales, Dec 9 2016, 11:14 AM.
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