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FBI disagrees with CIA on Russian influence in the presidential election
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Dec 12 2016, 10:49 AM
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The FBI did not corroborate the CIA’s claim that Russia had a hand in the election of President-elect Donald Trump in a meeting with lawmakers last week.
A senior FBI counterintelligence official met with Republican and Democrat members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence in order to give the bureau’s view of a recent CIA report. The official did not concur with the CIA, frustrating Democrats.
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/12/12/fbi-disagrees-cia-russian-influence-presidential-election-422763
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Donald Trump is Barack Obama's President!
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Dec 12 2016, 10:58 AM
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Obama is flirting with outright treason in this blatant "the Russians did it" false flag operation.
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Donald Trump is Barack Obama's President!
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Dec 12 2016, 11:10 AM
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The whole thing was based on a statement by a CIA spy, then elaborated by all the fake news outlets. Glenn Greenwald did an excellent job calling these leftist liars out by name.
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Dec 12 2016, 11:11 AM
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How is Obama flirting with Treason when he wants to get to the bottom of the matter? Interesting use of terms by the Right who have a history of not wanting to get to the truth, especially if it damages their ideological beliefs.
As to the differences between the FBI and the CIA, read your link. It is a matter of degrees, not if it happened. Both the FBI and CIA agree that outside forces used the Internet to affect our election. The disagreement is how strongly they implicate the Russian government. The CIA is adamant, the FBI is soft but both still admit to intervention pointing towards the Russians.
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Dec 12 2016, 11:11 AM
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Meh...let them keep it up....what is shows is just how incompetent these people are and how arrogant and flippant they are with cybersecurity....their own and our national security.
We spy on everyone as Snowden pointed out....who in there right effing mind does not expect foreign gov't's and other adversaries to be trying to hack us daily.....
Liberalism is a mental disorder.....
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Dec 12 2016, 11:23 AM
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Meh...let them keep it up....what is shows is just how incompetent these people are and how arrogant and flippant they are with cybersecurity....their own and our national security.
We spy on everyone as Snowden pointed out....who in there right effing mind does not expect foreign gov't's and other adversaries to be trying to hack us daily.....
Liberalism is a mental disorder.....
Spying is one thing. Actively hacking and manipulating the media to promote one candidate over another is something else. Yes, the US has done stuff like this in third world countries but we do not expect it to happen to us without repercussions.
I find it interesting the Right is so benign about this. Iran holds a couple sailors captured in their territorial waters for a day and they want to go to war. But Russia actively inserts itself into our election process and they want to cuddle up to Putin and go on with business as usual.
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Dec 12 2016, 11:25 AM
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Meh...let them keep it up....what is shows is just how incompetent these people are and how arrogant and flippant they are with cybersecurity....their own and our national security.
We spy on everyone as Snowden pointed out....who in there right effing mind does not expect foreign gov't's and other adversaries to be trying to hack us daily.....
Liberalism is a mental disorder.....
Spying is one thing. Actively hacking and manipulating the media to promote one candidate over another is something else. Yes, the US has done stuff like this in third world countries but we do not expect it to happen to us without repercussions. I find it interesting the Right is so benign about this. Iran holds a couple sailors captured in their territorial waters for a day and they want to go to war. But Russia actively inserts itself into our election process and they want to cuddle up to Putin and go on with business as usual. No proof but wouldn't care if they did because it exposed what we all knew to be true...the corruption of the Clintons and the Democrats.....and more importantly the collusion with the Fake News drive by media.....
If they were behind it they did America a big service....
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Dec 12 2016, 11:25 AM
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How is Obama flirting with Treason when he wants to get to the bottom of the matter? Interesting use of terms by the Right who have a history of not wanting to get to the truth, especially if it damages their ideological beliefs.
As to the differences between the FBI and the CIA, read your link. It is a matter of degrees, not if it happened. Both the FBI and CIA agree that outside forces used the Internet to affect our election. The disagreement is how strongly they implicate the Russian government. The CIA is adamant, the FBI is soft but both still admit to intervention pointing towards the Russians. I agree there should be an investigation.
There also needs to be an investigation into Scott Foval, Robert Creamer and Ceaser Chavez - top DNC operatives who openly admitted to electoral fraud on tape.
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Dec 12 2016, 11:30 AM
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Meh...let them keep it up....what is shows is just how incompetent these people are and how arrogant and flippant they are with cybersecurity....their own and our national security.
We spy on everyone as Snowden pointed out....who in there right effing mind does not expect foreign gov't's and other adversaries to be trying to hack us daily.....
Liberalism is a mental disorder.....
Spying is one thing. Actively hacking and manipulating the media to promote one candidate over another is something else. Yes, the US has done stuff like this in third world countries but we do not expect it to happen to us without repercussions. I find it interesting the Right is so benign about this. Iran holds a couple sailors captured in their territorial waters for a day and they want to go to war. But Russia actively inserts itself into our election process and they want to cuddle up to Putin and go on with business as usual.
No proof but wouldn't care if they did because it exposed what we all knew to be true...the corruption of the Clintons and the Democrats.....and more importantly the collusion with the Fake News drive by media..... If they were behind it they did America a big service.... You guys have been so embarrassed by falling for fake news and creating your policy platform around it that now it is being exposed you have had to go on the offensive to misdirect the public.
The so-called MSM is not fake news. They are the real news and you hate them because they use facts to disprove your claims. Your claims against them just illustrate how pathetic you are.
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Dec 12 2016, 11:38 AM
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Meh...let them keep it up....what is shows is just how incompetent these people are and how arrogant and flippant they are with cybersecurity....their own and our national security.
We spy on everyone as Snowden pointed out....who in there right effing mind does not expect foreign gov't's and other adversaries to be trying to hack us daily.....
Liberalism is a mental disorder.....
Spying is one thing. Actively hacking and manipulating the media to promote one candidate over another is something else. Yes, the US has done stuff like this in third world countries but we do not expect it to happen to us without repercussions. I find it interesting the Right is so benign about this. Iran holds a couple sailors captured in their territorial waters for a day and they want to go to war. But Russia actively inserts itself into our election process and they want to cuddle up to Putin and go on with business as usual.
No proof but wouldn't care if they did because it exposed what we all knew to be true...the corruption of the Clintons and the Democrats.....and more importantly the collusion with the Fake News drive by media..... If they were behind it they did America a big service....
You guys have been so embarrassed by falling for fake news and creating your policy platform around it that now it is being exposed you have had to go on the offensive to misdirect the public. The so-called MSM is not fake news. They are the real news and you hate them because they use facts to disprove your claims. Your claims against them just illustrate how pathetic you are. This is projection - it is in fact the left and its media outlets that have been distributing fake news this entire election.
Glenn Greenwald did an excellent write up detailing the recent lies told by the leftist media, calling them out by name.
http://theintercept.com/2016/12/09/a-clinton-fan-manufactured-fake-news-that-msnbc-personalities-spread-to-discredit-wikileaks-docs/
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Dec 12 2016, 12:24 PM
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Meh...let them keep it up....what is shows is just how incompetent these people are and how arrogant and flippant they are with cybersecurity....their own and our national security.
We spy on everyone as Snowden pointed out....who in there right effing mind does not expect foreign gov't's and other adversaries to be trying to hack us daily.....
Liberalism is a mental disorder.....
Spying is one thing. Actively hacking and manipulating the media to promote one candidate over another is something else. Yes, the US has done stuff like this in third world countries but we do not expect it to happen to us without repercussions. I find it interesting the Right is so benign about this. Iran holds a couple sailors captured in their territorial waters for a day and they want to go to war. But Russia actively inserts itself into our election process and they want to cuddle up to Putin and go on with business as usual. former US ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, spoke on NBC’s ‘Meet The Press’ on Sunday morning about Putin’s motives during the election. “Let’s remember that Vladimir Putin thinks [Clinton] interfered in his election – the parliamentary election in December 2011 – and has said as much publicly, and I’ve heard him talk about it privately.” So it's ok for Ma Barker to attempt to interfere with a Russian election but not ok for Putin to do the same thing? Ma got what was coming to her. She tried to fix a Russian election and got what was coming to her. It's only fair.
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Meh...let them keep it up....what is shows is just how incompetent these people are and how arrogant and flippant they are with cybersecurity....their own and our national security.
We spy on everyone as Snowden pointed out....who in there right effing mind does not expect foreign gov't's and other adversaries to be trying to hack us daily.....
Liberalism is a mental disorder.....
Spying is one thing. Actively hacking and manipulating the media to promote one candidate over another is something else. Yes, the US has done stuff like this in third world countries but we do not expect it to happen to us without repercussions. I find it interesting the Right is so benign about this. Iran holds a couple sailors captured in their territorial waters for a day and they want to go to war. But Russia actively inserts itself into our election process and they want to cuddle up to Putin and go on with business as usual.
former US ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, spoke on NBC’s ‘Meet The Press’ on Sunday morning about Putin’s motives during the election. “Let’s remember that Vladimir Putin thinks [Clinton] interfered in his election – the parliamentary election in December 2011 – and has said as much publicly, and I’ve heard him talk about it privately.” So it's ok for Ma Barker to attempt to interfere with a Russian election but not ok for Putin to do the same thing? Ma got what was coming to her. She tried to fix a Russian election and got what was coming to her. It's only fa Remember when Clinton openly admitted to interference in the Palestine elections?
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Dec 12 2016, 12:53 PM
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Mandate of the FBI by federal law is strictly internal, while the CIA in mandated to investigate external threats.
Trump and Put in did rig the election.
Lock Trump up.
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Dec 12 2016, 01:03 PM
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Obama is flirting with outright treason in this blatant "the Russians did it" false flag operation. Putin's American Governor would agree with you.
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Dec 12 2016, 01:08 PM
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Obama is flirting with outright treason in this blatant "the Russians did it" false flag operation.
Putin's American Governor would agree with you. Wow....Trump can make America and Russia Great Again.....talk about winning.....
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Has Melania refused to move into the White House because she is a registered foreign spy?
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Dec 12 2016, 01:20 PM
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Has Melania refused to move into the White House because she is a registered foreign spy? I doubt it would be a problem with Putin's American Governor.
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Dec 12 2016, 01:24 PM
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Has Melania refused to move into the White House because she is a registered foreign spy?
I doubt it would be a problem with Putin's American Governor. I believe CT has gotten his talking point phrase du jour from David Brock....it's ok...we got the situation monitored and under control....
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Dec 12 2016, 02:46 PM
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Meh...let them keep it up....what is shows is just how incompetent these people are and how arrogant and flippant they are with cybersecurity....their own and our national security.
We spy on everyone as Snowden pointed out....who in there right effing mind does not expect foreign gov't's and other adversaries to be trying to hack us daily.....
Liberalism is a mental disorder.....
Spying is one thing. Actively hacking and manipulating the media to promote one candidate over another is something else. Yes, the US has done stuff like this in third world countries but we do not expect it to happen to us without repercussions. I find it interesting the Right is so benign about this. Iran holds a couple sailors captured in their territorial waters for a day and they want to go to war. But Russia actively inserts itself into our election process and they want to cuddle up to Putin and go on with business as usual.
No proof but wouldn't care if they did because it exposed what we all knew to be true...the corruption of the Clintons and the Democrats.....and more importantly the collusion with the Fake News drive by media..... If they were behind it they did America a big service....
You guys have been so embarrassed by falling for fake news and creating your policy platform around it that now it is being exposed you have had to go on the offensive to misdirect the public. The so-called MSM is not fake news. They are the real news and you hate them because they use facts to disprove your claims. Your claims against them just illustrate how pathetic you are.
This is projection - it is in fact the left and its media outlets that have been distributing fake news this entire election. Glenn Greenwald did an excellent write up detailing the recent lies told by the leftist media, calling them out by name. http://theintercept.com/2016/12/09/a-clinton-fan-manufactured-fake-news-that-msnbc-personalities-spread-to-discredit-wikileaks-docs/ It is not a fact that the MSM distributed fake news, especially to the extent that the Right did. The few stories that were picked up were quickly debunked and denounced unlike the Right that is still spreading them even after proven false.
Glen Greenwald was trying to protect his sullied reputation and gain another 15 secs. of fame with that piece, nothing more.
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Meh...let them keep it up....what is shows is just how incompetent these people are and how arrogant and flippant they are with cybersecurity....their own and our national security.
We spy on everyone as Snowden pointed out....who in there right effing mind does not expect foreign gov't's and other adversaries to be trying to hack us daily.....
Liberalism is a mental disorder.....
Spying is one thing. Actively hacking and manipulating the media to promote one candidate over another is something else. Yes, the US has done stuff like this in third world countries but we do not expect it to happen to us without repercussions. I find it interesting the Right is so benign about this. Iran holds a couple sailors captured in their territorial waters for a day and they want to go to war. But Russia actively inserts itself into our election process and they want to cuddle up to Putin and go on with business as usual.
former US ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, spoke on NBC’s ‘Meet The Press’ on Sunday morning about Putin’s motives during the election. “Let’s remember that Vladimir Putin thinks [Clinton] interfered in his election – the parliamentary election in December 2011 – and has said as much publicly, and I’ve heard him talk about it privately.” So it's ok for Ma Barker to attempt to interfere with a Russian election but not ok for Putin to do the same thing? Ma got what was coming to her. She tried to fix a Russian election and got what was coming to her. It's only fa
Remember when Clinton openly admitted to interference in the Palestine elections? So that makes it acceptable for the Russians to interfer with ours?
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