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Exclusive: Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking - sources
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Exclusive: Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking - sources

The overseers of the U.S. intelligence community have not embraced a CIA assessment that Russian cyber attacks were aimed at helping Republican President-elect Donald Trump win the 2016 election, three American officials said on Monday.
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Donald Trump told us the election was rigged and called on Russia to hack the emails of the Democrats. What is so special about that? Anyone who reads the papers knows about all the voter fraud and suppression. We learned about the Electoral College in school. NSA and other spook agencies have been hacking foreign emails for years and nobody is surprised. Trump is sweeping away America's sanctimonious hypocrisy with the casual impatience of an executive with his eyes focused on his own strategic goal.

What is that strategic goal you ask? It is the alternative to Obama's government socialism. Think of it as corporate socialism. For students of history, corporate socialism is descended from Otto Von Bismarck's alternative to Karl Marx's program. Will it work? Well, it worked for Otto and America's spirit is closer to Prussia than to the Paris Commune.
Edited by George Aligator, Dec 13 2016, 10:09 AM.
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Dec 13 2016, 10:08 AM
Donald Trump called on Russia to hack the emails of the Democrats.
Really?

I am going to say this as nicely as I can

ANYONE who says this is a fool

ANYONE who actually believes this really is not very smart OR just does not understand the English language

Those who aren't stupid or just plain do not understand the English language is flat out lying

So - people that say this are either dim witted or lying

Period

What Trump said was said in snark - anyone with common sense understands this
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All this talk of a vast Russian conspiracy to hack U.S. computer networks to put Donald Trump in the White House is difficult to believe.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/265123/russian-hacking-hysteria-matthew-vadum
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dcbl
Dec 13 2016, 10:15 AM
George Aligator
Dec 13 2016, 10:08 AM
Donald Trump called on Russia to hack the emails of the Democrats.
Really?

I am going to say this as nicely as I can

ANYONE who says this is a fool

ANYONE who actually believes this really is not very smart OR just does not understand the English language

Those who aren't stupid or just plain do not understand the English language is flat out lying

So - people that say this are either dim witted or lying

Period

What Trump said was said in snark - anyone with common sense understands this
Your enthusiasm for Mr. Trump seems to have infected you with the arrogant discourtesy of many of his followers. It is disappointing to think that your response, "ANYONE who says this is a fool," represents a post written "as nicely as I can."

And since you have had the tasteless grace to call me a fool (surely not a SYI down on your schoolyard) I shall have to take a moment to remind you of what any fool knows.

The basis for your blustering discourtesy is your claim that Mr. Trump called on Russia to hack Democratic emails "in snark." Snark is a bit of childish slang without currency in adult debate. In any event, you claim that his tone was "snark" rests upon your subjective interpretation. The fact that he said the words I said he did is conceded by implication. Your rebuttal is, to say the least, unconvincing as well as insulting.

Your enthusiasm for your candidate has overwhelmed both your manners and your logic. One can only conclude that neither of those elements of your debating style are either strong or important to you. I'm sorry about that; I used to think you were one of the grownups here.
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George Aligator
Dec 13 2016, 01:33 PM
dcbl
Dec 13 2016, 10:15 AM
George Aligator
Dec 13 2016, 10:08 AM
Donald Trump called on Russia to hack the emails of the Democrats.
Really?

I am going to say this as nicely as I can

ANYONE who says this is a fool

ANYONE who actually believes this really is not very smart OR just does not understand the English language

Those who aren't stupid or just plain do not understand the English language is flat out lying

So - people that say this are either dim witted or lying

Period

What Trump said was said in snark - anyone with common sense understands this
Your enthusiasm for Mr. Trump seems to have infected you with the arrogant discourtesy of many of his followers. It is disappointing to think that your response, "ANYONE who says this is a fool," represents a post written "as nicely as I can."

And since you have had the tasteless grace to call me a fool (surely not a SYI down on your schoolyard) I shall have to take a moment to remind you of what any fool knows.

The basis for your blustering discourtesy is your claim that Mr. Trump called on Russia to hack Democratic emails "in snark." Snark is a bit of childish slang without currency in adult debate. In any event, you claim that his tone was "snark" rests upon your subjective interpretation. The fact that he said the words I said he did is conceded by implication. Your rebuttal is, to say the least, unconvincing as well as insulting.

Your enthusiasm for your candidate has overwhelmed both your manners and your logic. One can only conclude that neither of those elements of your debating style are either strong or important to you. I'm sorry about that; I used to think you were one of the grownups here.
Ah, GA... missing the obvious irony in your rebuttal yet again, your self-righteous "dignified" indignation notwithstanding.

You cite a "subjective interpretation" of snark in Trump's words to dismiss dcbl's (correct) point, without bothering to understand that it is a subjective interpretation of Trump's words on your part that is causing you to claim that he "called on Russia to hack the emails of the Democrats". If you have it, I would like to see the evidence to which apparently only you have access in which Trump says "I call upon Russia to hack the emails of the Democrats". Otherwise, what you are claiming is nothing more than the wrongful interpretation put forth by the agenda-driven Democrat party operatives and disseminated by a mainstream media that was desperate to create more news for its 24-hour cycle, loyally parroted by the True Believers who are unwilling or unable to accept how ridiculous it is.

Intellectual honesty is in short supply these days on the Left side of the aisle...
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dcbl
Dec 13 2016, 10:15 AM
George Aligator
Dec 13 2016, 10:08 AM
Donald Trump called on Russia to hack the emails of the Democrats.
Really?

I am going to say this as nicely as I can

ANYONE who says this is a fool

ANYONE who actually believes this really is not very smart OR just does not understand the English language

Those who aren't stupid or just plain do not understand the English language is flat out lying

So - people that say this are either dim witted or lying

Period

What Trump said was said in snark - anyone with common sense understands this
Trump said it.

I guess you are right..
Trump is a fool.
Edited by CautionaryTales, Dec 13 2016, 02:05 PM.


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dcbl
Dec 13 2016, 10:15 AM
George Aligator
Dec 13 2016, 10:08 AM
Donald Trump called on Russia to hack the emails of the Democrats.
Really?

I am going to say this as nicely as I can

ANYONE who says this is a fool

ANYONE who actually believes this really is not very smart OR just does not understand the English language

Those who aren't stupid or just plain do not understand the English language is flat out lying

So - people that say this are either dim witted or lying

Period

What Trump said was said in snark - anyone with common sense understands this
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I am personally still confused about why it is so important to our friends on the left and in the media to draw attention to Obama's incompetence in safeguarding United States communications - just seems a little strange is all...
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Dec 13 2016, 01:33 PM
dcbl
Dec 13 2016, 10:15 AM
George Aligator
Dec 13 2016, 10:08 AM
Donald Trump called on Russia to hack the emails of the Democrats.
Really?

I am going to say this as nicely as I can

ANYONE who says this is a fool

ANYONE who actually believes this really is not very smart OR just does not understand the English language

Those who aren't stupid or just plain do not understand the English language is flat out lying

So - people that say this are either dim witted or lying

Period

What Trump said was said in snark - anyone with common sense understands this
Your enthusiasm for Mr. Trump seems to have infected you with the arrogant discourtesy of many of his followers. It is disappointing to think that your response, "ANYONE who says this is a fool," represents a post written "as nicely as I can."

And since you have had the tasteless grace to call me a fool (surely not a SYI down on your schoolyard) I shall have to take a moment to remind you of what any fool knows.

The basis for your blustering discourtesy is your claim that Mr. Trump called on Russia to hack Democratic emails "in snark." Snark is a bit of childish slang without currency in adult debate. In any event, you claim that his tone was "snark" rests upon your subjective interpretation. The fact that he said the words I said he did is conceded by implication. Your rebuttal is, to say the least, unconvincing as well as insulting.

Your enthusiasm for your candidate has overwhelmed both your manners and your logic. One can only conclude that neither of those elements of your debating style are either strong or important to you. I'm sorry about that; I used to think you were one of the grownups here.
here's the thing

Donald Trump DID NOT actually ask or invite the Russians to hack emails

I know it, and I am confident that you know it; so it is frustrating to see people that are otherwise pretty smart and carry themselves with integrity parrot that falsehood

There is PLENTY to dog Trump on; even some things that I have no good answer for

So why bring this up?

It makes you look bad
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dcbl
Dec 13 2016, 03:48 PM
George Aligator
Dec 13 2016, 01:33 PM
dcbl
Dec 13 2016, 10:15 AM
George Aligator
Dec 13 2016, 10:08 AM
Donald Trump called on Russia to hack the emails of the Democrats.
Really?

I am going to say this as nicely as I can

ANYONE who says this is a fool

ANYONE who actually believes this really is not very smart OR just does not understand the English language

Those who aren't stupid or just plain do not understand the English language is flat out lying

So - people that say this are either dim witted or lying

Period

What Trump said was said in snark - anyone with common sense understands this
Your enthusiasm for Mr. Trump seems to have infected you with the arrogant discourtesy of many of his followers. It is disappointing to think that your response, "ANYONE who says this is a fool," represents a post written "as nicely as I can."

And since you have had the tasteless grace to call me a fool (surely not a SYI down on your schoolyard) I shall have to take a moment to remind you of what any fool knows.

The basis for your blustering discourtesy is your claim that Mr. Trump called on Russia to hack Democratic emails "in snark." Snark is a bit of childish slang without currency in adult debate. In any event, you claim that his tone was "snark" rests upon your subjective interpretation. The fact that he said the words I said he did is conceded by implication. Your rebuttal is, to say the least, unconvincing as well as insulting.

Your enthusiasm for your candidate has overwhelmed both your manners and your logic. One can only conclude that neither of those elements of your debating style are either strong or important to you. I'm sorry about that; I used to think you were one of the grownups here.
here's the thing

Donald Trump DID NOT actually ask or invite the Russians to hack emails

I know it, and I am confident that you know it; so it is frustrating to see people that are otherwise pretty smart and carry themselves with integrity parrot that falsehood

There is PLENTY to dog Trump on; even some things that I have no good answer for

So why bring this up?

It makes you look bad
Libs look bad no matter what...they are libs....they have no shame, no morals and obviously no intellect....


I'm still waiting for Cher, Miley and Madonna to weigh in on this....


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Dec 13 2016, 03:48 PM
George Aligator
Dec 13 2016, 01:33 PM
dcbl
Dec 13 2016, 10:15 AM
George Aligator
Dec 13 2016, 10:08 AM
Donald Trump called on Russia to hack the emails of the Democrats.
Really?

I am going to say this as nicely as I can

ANYONE who says this is a fool

ANYONE who actually believes this really is not very smart OR just does not understand the English language

Those who aren't stupid or just plain do not understand the English language is flat out lying

So - people that say this are either dim witted or lying

Period

What Trump said was said in snark - anyone with common sense understands this
Your enthusiasm for Mr. Trump seems to have infected you with the arrogant discourtesy of many of his followers. It is disappointing to think that your response, "ANYONE who says this is a fool," represents a post written "as nicely as I can."

And since you have had the tasteless grace to call me a fool (surely not a SYI down on your schoolyard) I shall have to take a moment to remind you of what any fool knows.

The basis for your blustering discourtesy is your claim that Mr. Trump called on Russia to hack Democratic emails "in snark." Snark is a bit of childish slang without currency in adult debate. In any event, you claim that his tone was "snark" rests upon your subjective interpretation. The fact that he said the words I said he did is conceded by implication. Your rebuttal is, to say the least, unconvincing as well as insulting.

Your enthusiasm for your candidate has overwhelmed both your manners and your logic. One can only conclude that neither of those elements of your debating style are either strong or important to you. I'm sorry about that; I used to think you were one of the grownups here.
here's the thing

Donald Trump DID NOT actually ask or invite the Russians to hack emails

I know it, and I am confident that you know it; so it is frustrating to see people that are otherwise pretty smart and carry themselves with integrity parrot that falsehood

There is PLENTY to dog Trump on; even some things that I have no good answer for

So why bring this up?

It makes you look bad
Actually he did. There are all kinds of videos of him saying it. I'm sure we can find one for you if you really insist.

So you want us to believe he said it in "snark" so he really didn't mean it. What else did he not really mean?

He is going to build a wall?
He is going to deport 11 million illegals?
He is going to "drain the swamp"?
He is going to "make America great again"?
He is going to prosecute Hillary Clinton?

Should we keep going? What things does he really mean and what does he not mean?
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Actually he did. There are all kinds of videos of him saying it. I'm sure we can find one for you if you really insist.


weak; I heard him when he made the reference

it was funny then and it is funny now

even funnier that some people still don't get it; either that or they just lie about it

I guess I should calm down, we'll be getting a good replacement for Scalia soon :)
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Actually he did. There are all kinds of videos of him saying it. I'm sure we can find one for you if you really insist.


weak; I heard him when he made the reference

it was funny then and it is funny now

even funnier that some people still don't get it; either that or they just lie about it

I guess I should calm down, we'll be getting a good replacement for Scalia soon :)
Team Hillary planted the 'Russia hacked the election' meme BEFORE the election in case Trump won.

She's reduced LIbs to one giant meme....

Thanks Hillary ....between you and Obama you have gutted your party in ways outsiders never could....

The icing on the cake will be Ellison....please do it....
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