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Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts; What voter fraud?
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Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts

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Voting machines in more than one-third of all Detroit precincts registered more votes than they should have during last month’s presidential election, according to Wayne County records prepared at the request of The Detroit News.

Detailed reports from the office of Wayne County Clerk Cathy Garrett show optical scanners at 248 of the city’s 662 precincts, or 37 percent, tabulated more ballots than the number of voters tallied by workers in the poll books. Voting irregularities in Detroit have spurred plans for an audit by Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson’s office, Elections Director Chris Thomas said Monday.

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Dec 13 2016, 01:09 PM
Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts

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Voting machines in more than one-third of all Detroit precincts registered more votes than they should have during last month’s presidential election, according to Wayne County records prepared at the request of The Detroit News.

Detailed reports from the office of Wayne County Clerk Cathy Garrett show optical scanners at 248 of the city’s 662 precincts, or 37 percent, tabulated more ballots than the number of voters tallied by workers in the poll books. Voting irregularities in Detroit have spurred plans for an audit by Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson’s office, Elections Director Chris Thomas said Monday.

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Just like in 2012
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yep...it's why I said Trump (and ROmney for that matter) had to beat the MOF....Margin of Fraud.....more from the OP

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The problems were the worst in Detroit, where discrepancies meant officials couldn’t recount votes in 392 precincts, or nearly 60 percent. And two-thirds of those precincts had too many votes.

“There’s always going to be small problems to some degree, but we didn’t expect the degree of problem we saw in Detroit. This isn’t normal,” said Krista Haroutunian, chairwoman of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers.


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I'm sure Jill Stein and the democrats are going to demand an investigation...........

Remember, just because illegals can get into the country, get jobs, get healthcare, get welfare, send their children to school and in some states a drivers license doesn't mean they con figure a way to vote. That's why liberals expect us to believe...
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Election officials "haven't had the time yet" to look at obvious ballot box stuffing in Detroit....In a democracy, people would go to jail....I suspect that Trump would have a majority of the popular vote were it not for criminal conduct...Just saying............... :oyvey
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Dec 13 2016, 01:16 PM
I'm sure Jill Stein and the democrats are going to demand an investigation...........

Remember, just because illegals can get into the country, get jobs, get healthcare, get welfare, send their children to school and in some states a drivers license doesn't mean they con figure a way to vote. That's why liberals expect us to believe...
You keep perpetuating these lies. Undocumented people cannot get welfare.

Do you have any evidence that these voting irregularities, which seem more like bookkeeping problems, have anything to do with undocumented people? Anything? Or just more lies from you.
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Dec 13 2016, 03:21 PM
Election officials "haven't had the time yet" to look at obvious ballot box stuffing in Detroit....In a democracy, people would go to jail....I suspect that Trump would have a majority of the popular vote were it not for criminal conduct...Just saying............... :oyvey
You know that it was ballot stuffing? It wasn't bad bookkeeping by the entry books? You know what happened?

Of course you don't but that has never stopped you before.
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Dec 13 2016, 03:40 PM
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Dec 13 2016, 03:21 PM
Election officials "haven't had the time yet" to look at obvious ballot box stuffing in Detroit....In a democracy, people would go to jail....I suspect that Trump would have a majority of the popular vote were it not for criminal conduct...Just saying............... :oyvey
You know that it was ballot stuffing? It wasn't bad bookkeeping by the entry books? You know what happened?

Of course you don't but that has never stopped you before.
We know there is a reason why democrats oppose voters showing their ID to vote.
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Dec 13 2016, 03:39 PM
PATruth
Dec 13 2016, 01:16 PM
I'm sure Jill Stein and the democrats are going to demand an investigation...........

Remember, just because illegals can get into the country, get jobs, get healthcare, get welfare, send their children to school and in some states a drivers license doesn't mean they con figure a way to vote. That's why liberals expect us to believe...
You keep perpetuating these lies. Undocumented people cannot get welfare.

Do you have any evidence that these voting irregularities, which seem more like bookkeeping problems, have anything to do with undocumented people? Anything? Or just more lies from you.
Illegals get welfare all the time....in fact the Obama admin paid big bucks for them to called and in some cases harassed....I know this because an illegal bought my family about 20 boxes of cereal with her ill gotten gain and she felt really bad about it but it was the only way to get the Nanny state to stop calling her multiple times a week....


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Dec 13 2016, 03:41 PM
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Dec 13 2016, 03:40 PM
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Dec 13 2016, 03:21 PM
Election officials "haven't had the time yet" to look at obvious ballot box stuffing in Detroit....In a democracy, people would go to jail....I suspect that Trump would have a majority of the popular vote were it not for criminal conduct...Just saying............... :oyvey
You know that it was ballot stuffing? It wasn't bad bookkeeping by the entry books? You know what happened?

Of course you don't but that has never stopped you before.
We know there is a reason why democrats oppose voters showing their ID to vote.
Do you know if voter ID"s would have made a difference here? Do you know what caused the discrepency between the check-in voter books and the machines? Do you know which one was wrong?

I thought not.
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Dec 13 2016, 03:50 PM
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Dec 13 2016, 03:39 PM
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Dec 13 2016, 01:16 PM
I'm sure Jill Stein and the democrats are going to demand an investigation...........

Remember, just because illegals can get into the country, get jobs, get healthcare, get welfare, send their children to school and in some states a drivers license doesn't mean they con figure a way to vote. That's why liberals expect us to believe...
You keep perpetuating these lies. Undocumented people cannot get welfare.

Do you have any evidence that these voting irregularities, which seem more like bookkeeping problems, have anything to do with undocumented people? Anything? Or just more lies from you.
Illegals get welfare all the time....in fact the Obama admin paid big bucks for them to called and in some cases harassed....I know this because an illegal bought my family about 20 boxes of cereal with her ill gotten gain and she felt really bad about it but it was the only way to get the Nanny state to stop calling her multiple times a week....


Then turn her over to prosecutors. The fact is illegal immigrants are legally not allowed to claim welfare so if they are they are cheating the system and should be prosecuted.

But then I really don't believe your story anyway.
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Dec 13 2016, 03:39 PM
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Dec 13 2016, 01:16 PM
I'm sure Jill Stein and the democrats are going to demand an investigation...........

Remember, just because illegals can get into the country, get jobs, get healthcare, get welfare, send their children to school and in some states a drivers license doesn't mean they con figure a way to vote. That's why liberals expect us to believe...
You keep perpetuating these lies. Undocumented people cannot get welfare.

Do you have any evidence that these voting irregularities, which seem more like bookkeeping problems, have anything to do with undocumented people? Anything? Or just more lies from you.


Illegal immigrants get all forms of welfare "on behalf of" their anchor babies; Food , cash, medical, housing...You name it...If you lived in Arizona, you would stop pulling your "facts" out of your butt.....About 2/3 of our illegal immigrant families with ANCHOR BABIES receive one or more forms of welfare.............. :booboo:
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So basically because the numbers don't match exactly, which isn't horribly unusual when dealing with human beings, there must have been significant voter fraud. Regardless of the fact that the article doesn't address, at all, how large a discrepancy we're talking here. Even one vote more than the humans counted would mean inclusion in this group.

That's hardly indicative of massive voter fraud.

So, yes, the situation absolutely needs to be looked at and an explanation made. But right now, there is no reason to believe that there was significant problem.
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Dec 13 2016, 04:46 PM
So basically because the numbers don't match exactly, which isn't horribly unusual when dealing with human beings, there must have been significant voter fraud. Regardless of the fact that the article doesn't address, at all, how large a discrepancy we're talking here. Even one vote more than the humans counted would mean inclusion in this group.

That's hardly indicative of massive voter fraud.

So, yes, the situation absolutely needs to be looked at and an explanation made. But right now, there is no reason to believe that there was significant problem.
Obviously you missed this above...

The problems were the worst in Detroit, where discrepancies meant officials couldn’t recount votes in 392 precincts, or nearly 60 percent. And two-thirds of those precincts had too many votes.

“There’s always going to be small problems to some degree, but we didn’t expect the degree of problem we saw in Detroit. This isn’t normal,” said Krista Haroutunian, chairwoman of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers.
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Dec 13 2016, 04:31 PM
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Dec 13 2016, 03:50 PM
BuckFan
Dec 13 2016, 03:39 PM
PATruth
Dec 13 2016, 01:16 PM
I'm sure Jill Stein and the democrats are going to demand an investigation...........

Remember, just because illegals can get into the country, get jobs, get healthcare, get welfare, send their children to school and in some states a drivers license doesn't mean they con figure a way to vote. That's why liberals expect us to believe...
You keep perpetuating these lies. Undocumented people cannot get welfare.

Do you have any evidence that these voting irregularities, which seem more like bookkeeping problems, have anything to do with undocumented people? Anything? Or just more lies from you.
Illegals get welfare all the time....in fact the Obama admin paid big bucks for them to called and in some cases harassed....I know this because an illegal bought my family about 20 boxes of cereal with her ill gotten gain and she felt really bad about it but it was the only way to get the Nanny state to stop calling her multiple times a week....


Then turn her over to prosecutors. The fact is illegal immigrants are legally not allowed to claim welfare so if they are they are cheating the system and should be prosecuted.

But then I really don't believe your story anyway.
Why would I turn her over to prosecutors...???

It's not her fault Obama and his ilk kept pounding her multiple times a week.

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The Democrats have a national voter fraud machine!

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Edited by Alt Right PEPE, Dec 13 2016, 06:00 PM.
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Dec 13 2016, 05:04 PM
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Dec 13 2016, 04:46 PM
So basically because the numbers don't match exactly, which isn't horribly unusual when dealing with human beings, there must have been significant voter fraud. Regardless of the fact that the article doesn't address, at all, how large a discrepancy we're talking here. Even one vote more than the humans counted would mean inclusion in this group.

That's hardly indicative of massive voter fraud.

So, yes, the situation absolutely needs to be looked at and an explanation made. But right now, there is no reason to believe that there was significant problem.
Obviously you missed this above...

The problems were the worst in Detroit, where discrepancies meant officials couldn’t recount votes in 392 precincts, or nearly 60 percent. And two-thirds of those precincts had too many votes.

“There’s always going to be small problems to some degree, but we didn’t expect the degree of problem we saw in Detroit. This isn’t normal,” said Krista Haroutunian, chairwoman of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers.
Yes, I saw that. Which tells me that they had a lot of precincts that had tallies that were off. They don't tell us how far off though, so it might be one vote, a small hand full of votes, dozens, hundreds, thousands, we have no idea.

But let's think about this. Who are manning the voting booths in Detroit? Probably graduates of the Detroit school system, not one of the best in the nation. Detroit is also suffering through significant budgetary issues, so probably didn't have a lot of money to spend on training their volunteer staff.

So yeah, they probably didn't get the count exactly right. And yeah, that needs to change. And yeah, it's not great that this many precincts were off, by how much no one knows.

But no, it's not necessarily proof of major voter fraud.

Now, if they came back and said that it was hundreds of votes per precinct, then I'd be concerned about serious voter fraud.
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Dec 13 2016, 05:59 PM
The Democrats have a national voter fraud machine!

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If it were voter fraud on Hillary's part, she would have been the winner

But the winner was..........?
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The only beneificiaries of voter fraud are they who ended up winning

Maybe that's why Trump fought so hard to stop the recounts
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Dec 13 2016, 07:03 PM
The only beneificiaries of voter fraud are they who ended up winning

Maybe that's why Trump fought so hard to stop the recounts
Why did an Obama judge stop the recounts in Michigan?
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