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Obama Intelligence Officials Refuse To Brief Congress on Promoted “Russian Hacking Conspiracy”; Obama is a POS
Topic Started: Dec 14 2016, 10:18 PM (1,235 Views)
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Obama Intelligence Officials Refuse To Brief Congress on Promoted “Russian Hacking Conspiracy”

It’s been more than a few months since we first began discussing the obvious internal conflict between White Hats and Black Hats within the Obama intelligence and national security agencies. Today, we see exactly how bad the fracture has become.

As further evidence of the politicization of the CIA (Central Intelligence), headed by John Brennan; and DNI (Director of National Intelligence) James Clapper, the agencies are refusing to brief congress on their claim the “Russians Hacked the U.S. Election”.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/12/14/obama-intelligence-officials-refuse-to-brief-congress-on-promoted-russian-hacking-conspiracy/
Edited by Right-Wing, Dec 14 2016, 10:18 PM.
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“It is unacceptable that the Intelligence Community directors would not fulfill the House Intelligence Committee’s request to be briefed tomorrow on the cyber-attacks that occurred during the presidential campaign. The legislative branch is constitutionally vested with oversight responsibility of executive branch agencies, which are obligated to comply with our requests. The Committee is vigorously looking into reports of cyber-attacks during the election campaign, and in particular we want to clarify press reports that the CIA has a new assessment that it has not shared with us. The Committee is deeply concerned that intransigence in sharing intelligence with Congress can enable the manipulation of intelligence for political purposes. The Committee will continue its efforts and will insist that we receive all the necessary cooperation from the relevant leaders of the Intelligence Community.”

http://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=738
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CT, C2C, BF...where are you guys? C'mon, I want to hear your explanation for this. If the House Intelligence Committee can't be briefed...how ya gonna brief the Electors?

Or

Do you think all of this nonsense about Russian hackers was exactly that? If so, do you think somebody should be prosecuted for trying to tamper with our election?
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The CIA won't share because they have NOTHING...Educated guesses and no evidence............ :rollseyes:
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Funny how the conservative tree house, which is apparently populated by pre-pubescent middle schoolers (judging from some of their image content) has links to the Congressman's press release but no evidence other than those press releases showing the intelligence peoples' refusals or cancellations ... or did I just miss them?

PS ... but, NO WAY this is so-called 'fake news' ...
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Dec 15 2016, 08:43 AM
Funny how the conservative tree house, which is apparently populated by pre-pubescent middle schoolers (judging from some of their image content) has links to the Congressman's press release but no evidence other than those press releases showing the intelligence peoples' refusals or cancellations ... or did I just miss them?

PS ... but, NO WAY this is so-called 'fake news' ...
What are you suggesting here Wilmy?
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Dec 15 2016, 08:43 AM
Funny how the conservative tree house, which is apparently populated by pre-pubescent middle schoolers (judging from some of their image content) has links to the Congressman's press release but no evidence other than those press releases showing the intelligence peoples' refusals or cancellations ... or did I just miss them?

PS ... but, NO WAY this is so-called 'fake news' ...
Guess who runs the House intelligence committee?

Republicans under Mitch McConnell

That's a one way ticket to burying everything under a cloak of secrecy for years

Dont trust those treasonous scumbags, they're all in on it




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Dec 15 2016, 08:57 AM
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Dec 15 2016, 08:43 AM
Funny how the conservative tree house, which is apparently populated by pre-pubescent middle schoolers (judging from some of their image content) has links to the Congressman's press release but no evidence other than those press releases showing the intelligence peoples' refusals or cancellations ... or did I just miss them?

PS ... but, NO WAY this is so-called 'fake news' ...
What are you suggesting here Wilmy?
I'm suggesting there's no evidence of the intelligence peoples' 'refusal' to brief Congress in the OP link about it. I'd like to see evidence of that. All we have here is an allegation. You'll note that I suggested I may have missed this.

I'm also suggesting that a bunch of 14 year olds are more mature than this so-called 'news' site's writers appear to be ... it looks like Animal House meets Breitbart there.

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There comes a time, sooner rather than later in intelligence matters, when one has no alternative but to either trust or dismiss one's sources. It is in the nature of intelligence gathering that it is often not possible to "get to the bottom" of an issue. It's not a failure of technique, it's the nature of the beast.

In today's poisonous political climate the lines between humint, sigint, disinformation, and fake news are faint and wiggly as never before. Our bitter partisanship weakens us abroad and whatever feeds it aids those nations contesting against us.

As Father Abraham pointed out a house divided cannot stand (Mark 3:25)
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Dec 15 2016, 09:21 AM
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Dec 15 2016, 08:57 AM
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Dec 15 2016, 08:43 AM
Funny how the conservative tree house, which is apparently populated by pre-pubescent middle schoolers (judging from some of their image content) has links to the Congressman's press release but no evidence other than those press releases showing the intelligence peoples' refusals or cancellations ... or did I just miss them?

PS ... but, NO WAY this is so-called 'fake news' ...
What are you suggesting here Wilmy?
I'm suggesting there's no evidence of the intelligence peoples' 'refusal' to brief Congress in the OP link about it. I'd like to see evidence of that. All we have here is an allegation. You'll note that I suggested I may have missed this.

I'm also suggesting that a bunch of 14 year olds are more mature than this so-called 'news' site's writers appear to be ... it looks like Animal House meets Breitbart there.

Well, there is the statement issued by the Director of National Intelligence, which if sincere, does not seem that unreasonable.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/310495-intel-head-ic-agencies-refused-to-brief-committee-on-russian-hacking
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Dec 15 2016, 03:10 AM
The CIA won't share because they have NOTHING...Educated guesses and no evidence............ :rollseyes:
That would seem to be the message. They have nothing to brief Congress on, otherwise they would brief Congress.
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Dec 15 2016, 09:32 AM
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Dec 15 2016, 09:21 AM
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Dec 15 2016, 08:43 AM
Funny how the conservative tree house, which is apparently populated by pre-pubescent middle schoolers (judging from some of their image content) has links to the Congressman's press release but no evidence other than those press releases showing the intelligence peoples' refusals or cancellations ... or did I just miss them?

PS ... but, NO WAY this is so-called 'fake news' ...
What are you suggesting here Wilmy?
I'm suggesting there's no evidence of the intelligence peoples' 'refusal' to brief Congress in the OP link about it. I'd like to see evidence of that. All we have here is an allegation. You'll note that I suggested I may have missed this.

I'm also suggesting that a bunch of 14 year olds are more mature than this so-called 'news' site's writers appear to be ... it looks like Animal House meets Breitbart there.

Well, there is the statement issued by the Director of National Intelligence, which if sincere, does not seem that unreasonable.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/310495-intel-head-ic-agencies-refused-to-brief-committee-on-russian-hacking
That's because it's not unreasonable, it just doesn't fit the conservativetreehouse's narrative.

Guess we'll add them to the 'fake news' list.

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Dec 15 2016, 12:39 PM
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Dec 15 2016, 09:32 AM
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Dec 15 2016, 09:21 AM
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Dec 15 2016, 08:57 AM
wilmywood8455
Dec 15 2016, 08:43 AM
Funny how the conservative tree house, which is apparently populated by pre-pubescent middle schoolers (judging from some of their image content) has links to the Congressman's press release but no evidence other than those press releases showing the intelligence peoples' refusals or cancellations ... or did I just miss them?

PS ... but, NO WAY this is so-called 'fake news' ...
What are you suggesting here Wilmy?
I'm suggesting there's no evidence of the intelligence peoples' 'refusal' to brief Congress in the OP link about it. I'd like to see evidence of that. All we have here is an allegation. You'll note that I suggested I may have missed this.

I'm also suggesting that a bunch of 14 year olds are more mature than this so-called 'news' site's writers appear to be ... it looks like Animal House meets Breitbart there.

Well, there is the statement issued by the Director of National Intelligence, which if sincere, does not seem that unreasonable.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/310495-intel-head-ic-agencies-refused-to-brief-committee-on-russian-hacking
That's because it's not unreasonable, it just doesn't fit the conservativetreehouse's narrative.

Guess we'll add them to the 'fake news' list.

That fake news site was spot on about Trump's victory and was one of the first to lay out the "monster vote" theory as well as the cold anger mantra....

More accurate than all your fake news sites like Carlos Slim's and Jeff Bezo's blogs....combined..
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Dec 15 2016, 12:39 PM
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Dec 15 2016, 09:32 AM
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Dec 15 2016, 08:57 AM
wilmywood8455
Dec 15 2016, 08:43 AM
Funny how the conservative tree house, which is apparently populated by pre-pubescent middle schoolers (judging from some of their image content) has links to the Congressman's press release but no evidence other than those press releases showing the intelligence peoples' refusals or cancellations ... or did I just miss them?

PS ... but, NO WAY this is so-called 'fake news' ...
What are you suggesting here Wilmy?
I'm suggesting there's no evidence of the intelligence peoples' 'refusal' to brief Congress in the OP link about it. I'd like to see evidence of that. All we have here is an allegation. You'll note that I suggested I may have missed this.

I'm also suggesting that a bunch of 14 year olds are more mature than this so-called 'news' site's writers appear to be ... it looks like Animal House meets Breitbart there.

Well, there is the statement issued by the Director of National Intelligence, which if sincere, does not seem that unreasonable.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/310495-intel-head-ic-agencies-refused-to-brief-committee-on-russian-hacking
That's because it's not unreasonable, it just doesn't fit the conservativetreehouse's narrative.

Guess we'll add them to the 'fake news' list.

No it is not reasonable at f*cking all! The POTUS and his CIA can't make a claim of this magnitude, one that throws the validity of the entire election into question and expect everyone to just accept them at their word...that's not how this works. Either Obama and the CIA share their evidence with the opposition party or they should STFU...this is how civil wars are started. If Bush had done this to Obama and then attempted to hijack the electoral vote (as the left is doing now) the media would be screaming bloody murder that a coup was happening!! Obama is without doubt the worst f*cking President this country has ever seen...
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Dec 15 2016, 10:31 AM
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Dec 15 2016, 03:10 AM
The CIA won't share because they have NOTHING...Educated guesses and no evidence............ :rollseyes:
That would seem to be the message. They have nothing to brief Congress on, otherwise they would brief Congress.
I find it unlikely that there is no evidence; on the contrary, I suspect the evidence is there but revealing it to four or five hundred partisan politicians in the midst of a a wildly hostile political fight would inevitably compromise sources and methods best left undisturbed.

Suppose a key source of our evidence is a Mossad mole who has infiltrated Cozy Bear and whose information has been passed on to the USA by Israel. Do we do Israel any favors by making that public? Perhaps we have some software that has successfully infected the hackers' Russian servers and is assisting us in our investigation. Do we want to tell Putin about it? Congress doesn't trust the security of its own classified briefings as seen in their special rules and restrictions. If Congress doesn't trust its own members, why should we?
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The CIA won't share because they have NOTHING...Educated guesses and no evidence............ :rollseyes:
That would seem to be the message. They have nothing to brief Congress on, otherwise they would brief Congress.
I find it unlikely that there is no evidence; on the contrary, I suspect the evidence is there but revealing it to four or five hundred partisan politicians in the midst of a a wildly hostile political fight would inevitably compromise sources and methods best left undisturbed.

Suppose a key source of our evidence is a Mossad mole who has infiltrated Cozy Bear and whose information has been passed on to the USA by Israel. Do we do Israel any favors by making that public? Perhaps we have some software that has successfully infected the hackers' Russian servers and is assisting us in our investigation. Do we want to tell Putin about it? Congress doesn't trust the security of its own classified briefings as seen in their special rules and restrictions. If Congress doesn't trust its own members, why should we?
If it was along those lines then the fact that our intelligence services know about the hacking should have never been made public. The fact that it was made public tells us that it's disclosure was politically motivated.

Obama and the left are willing to start wars at home and abroad to retain power...how f*cking scary is that???
Edited by Right-Wing, Dec 15 2016, 02:45 PM.
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The CIA won't share because they have NOTHING...Educated guesses and no evidence............ :rollseyes:
That would seem to be the message. They have nothing to brief Congress on, otherwise they would brief Congress.
I find it unlikely that there is no evidence; on the contrary, I suspect the evidence is there but revealing it to four or five hundred partisan politicians in the midst of a a wildly hostile political fight would inevitably compromise sources and methods best left undisturbed.

Suppose a key source of our evidence is a Mossad mole who has infiltrated Cozy Bear and whose information has been passed on to the USA by Israel. Do we do Israel any favors by making that public? Perhaps we have some software that has successfully infected the hackers' Russian servers and is assisting us in our investigation. Do we want to tell Putin about it? Congress doesn't trust the security of its own classified briefings as seen in their special rules and restrictions. If Congress doesn't trust its own members, why should we?
If it was along those lines then the fact that our intelligence services know about the hacking should have never been made public. The fact that it was made public tells us that it's disclosure was politically motivated.

Obama and the left are willing to start wars at home and abroad to retain power...how f*cking scary is that???
If disclosure were politically motivated it would have been done last summer. In fact, Obama resisted and delayed disclosure because he did not want it tainted with the accusation you have made.
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The CIA won't share because they have NOTHING...Educated guesses and no evidence............ :rollseyes:
That would seem to be the message. They have nothing to brief Congress on, otherwise they would brief Congress.
I find it unlikely that there is no evidence; on the contrary, I suspect the evidence is there but revealing it to four or five hundred partisan politicians in the midst of a a wildly hostile political fight would inevitably compromise sources and methods best left undisturbed.

Suppose a key source of our evidence is a Mossad mole who has infiltrated Cozy Bear and whose information has been passed on to the USA by Israel. Do we do Israel any favors by making that public? Perhaps we have some software that has successfully infected the hackers' Russian servers and is assisting us in our investigation. Do we want to tell Putin about it? Congress doesn't trust the security of its own classified briefings as seen in their special rules and restrictions. If Congress doesn't trust its own members, why should we?
If it was along those lines then the fact that our intelligence services know about the hacking should have never been made public. The fact that it was made public tells us that it's disclosure was politically motivated.

Obama and the left are willing to start wars at home and abroad to retain power...how f*cking scary is that???
If disclosure were politically motivated it would have been done last summer. In fact, Obama resisted and delayed disclosure because he did not want it tainted with the accusation you have made.
Do you suffer from short term memory loss or something?

WASHINGTON—President Barack Obama for the first time tied Russia to a recent computer breach that penetrated the Democratic National Committee’s network, saying “experts” believe hackers from that country carried out the operation.

By DAMIAN PALETTA and DEVLIN BARRETT
July 27, 2016 7:40 a.m. ET

“I know that experts have attributed this to the Russians,” Mr. Obama said in an interview with NBC’s “Today Show” scheduled to air Wednesday morning. “What we do know is that the Russians hack our systems. Not just government systems, but private systems.”

ah and lookey here...Obama trying to tie it to Trump

“What the motives were in terms of the leaks, all that, I can’t say directly,” Mr. Obama said. “What I do know is that Donald Trump has repeatedly expressed admiration for Vladimir Putin.”
http://www.wsj.com/articles/obama-says-experts-tie-russia-to-dnc-hacking-1469619650

Now tell me GA the lesser...what lie are you going to trot out now?
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Furthermore if he didn't want the disclosure tainted with an appearance of partisanship...why did he disclose the information to begin with?!?!? What purpose was served by revealing this? What did it accomplish?

I'll answer that for you...the disclosure of this information served absolutely no purpose, it accomplished nothing other than casting doubt on the validity of our election and nothing is more partisan than that!!!
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