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U.S. Ethics Office Says Donald Trump Should Divest His Businesses; Handing them off to his kids isn’t enough
Topic Started: Dec 15 2016, 07:53 PM (738 Views)
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jake58
Dec 16 2016, 06:35 PM
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Dec 16 2016, 10:37 AM
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Dec 16 2016, 10:11 AM
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Dec 16 2016, 10:06 AM
It seems noteworthy that concern over this issue is not confined to Trump's Democratic opposition. Serious legal minds across the political spectrum as well as ones outside of it in academia are taking this issue more seriously than public opinion and the media are. That is unusual. The topic is likely to be fanned into flames during cabinet confirmation hearings as those appointments are subject to stricter and more specific legal requirements than the Emoluments Clause which applies to the President. There are some white water rapids downstream.
We just got rid of a candidate who amassed $150 million in 15 years on 6 years as a senator and 4 years as a SoS... don't think anyone really cares.
I agree that no one cares about Hillary's wealth, even those who were frantic over it before the election. Legal liabilities within the Trump administration are another matter as there is a sizable element called the opposition composed of both Democrats and a number of Republicans. The presidency is a slippery climb; an Achilles heel doesn't help the trip.
I was more interested in how she amassed that fortune in the service of the public, I am quite aware of liberals having no interest in that.
I think she amassed much of it by cozying up to Wall Street and whispering sweet nothings in their ears.

But at least she didn't amass it by creating a phony University and bilking the gullible.
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jake58

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Dec 16 2016, 06:41 PM
jake58
Dec 16 2016, 06:35 PM
George Aligator
Dec 16 2016, 10:37 AM
jake58
Dec 16 2016, 10:11 AM
George Aligator
Dec 16 2016, 10:06 AM
It seems noteworthy that concern over this issue is not confined to Trump's Democratic opposition. Serious legal minds across the political spectrum as well as ones outside of it in academia are taking this issue more seriously than public opinion and the media are. That is unusual. The topic is likely to be fanned into flames during cabinet confirmation hearings as those appointments are subject to stricter and more specific legal requirements than the Emoluments Clause which applies to the President. There are some white water rapids downstream.
We just got rid of a candidate who amassed $150 million in 15 years on 6 years as a senator and 4 years as a SoS... don't think anyone really cares.
I agree that no one cares about Hillary's wealth, even those who were frantic over it before the election. Legal liabilities within the Trump administration are another matter as there is a sizable element called the opposition composed of both Democrats and a number of Republicans. The presidency is a slippery climb; an Achilles heel doesn't help the trip.
I was more interested in how she amassed that fortune in the service of the public, I am quite aware of liberals having no interest in that.
I think she amassed much of it by cozying up to Wall Street and whispering sweet nothings in their ears.

But at least she didn't amass it by creating a phony University and bilking the gullible.
Really? Is it that much better?
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Dec 16 2016, 07:07 PM
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I agree that no one cares about Hillary's wealth, even those who were frantic over it before the election. Legal liabilities within the Trump administration are another matter as there is a sizable element called the opposition composed of both Democrats and a number of Republicans. The presidency is a slippery climb; an Achilles heel doesn't help the trip.
I was more interested in how she amassed that fortune in the service of the public, I am quite aware of liberals having no interest in that.
I think she amassed much of it by cozying up to Wall Street and whispering sweet nothings in their ears.

But at least she didn't amass it by creating a phony University and bilking the gullible.
Really? Is it that much better?
In one you're taking money from the wealthy who can well afford to pay it. In the other you're taking money from people who aren't wealthy and can't easily afford and who, in many cases, went into debt to pay for it.

Yeah, it kind of is.
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Where do you think the wealthy got that money? I've heard you wax most vociferously on the role of the big banks in the financial crisis in which many lost their primary residences... have you forgotten so soon? And what do you think Hillary was promising to those to whom she was whispering sweet nothings - that she was going to take more of their money? Everything comes from the working class, that'd be you and me and whatever else is left of it.
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Dec 16 2016, 06:41 PM
jake58
Dec 16 2016, 06:35 PM
George Aligator
Dec 16 2016, 10:37 AM
jake58
Dec 16 2016, 10:11 AM
George Aligator
Dec 16 2016, 10:06 AM
It seems noteworthy that concern over this issue is not confined to Trump's Democratic opposition. Serious legal minds across the political spectrum as well as ones outside of it in academia are taking this issue more seriously than public opinion and the media are. That is unusual. The topic is likely to be fanned into flames during cabinet confirmation hearings as those appointments are subject to stricter and more specific legal requirements than the Emoluments Clause which applies to the President. There are some white water rapids downstream.
We just got rid of a candidate who amassed $150 million in 15 years on 6 years as a senator and 4 years as a SoS... don't think anyone really cares.
I agree that no one cares about Hillary's wealth, even those who were frantic over it before the election. Legal liabilities within the Trump administration are another matter as there is a sizable element called the opposition composed of both Democrats and a number of Republicans. The presidency is a slippery climb; an Achilles heel doesn't help the trip.
I was more interested in how she amassed that fortune in the service of the public, I am quite aware of liberals having no interest in that.
I think she amassed much of it by cozying up to Wall Street and whispering sweet nothings in their ears.

But at least she didn't amass it by creating a phony University and bilking the gullible.
WTF?

The gullible?

Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence.
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Trump got his billions the hard way...Hillary got her millions by prostituting herself...She lost the election because she had nothing worth buying............. :dunno:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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jake58
Dec 16 2016, 07:20 PM
Where do you think the wealthy got that money? I've heard you wax most vociferously on the role of the big banks in the financial crisis in which many lost their primary residences... have you forgotten so soon? And what do you think Hillary was promising to those to whom she was whispering sweet nothings - that she was going to take more of their money? Everything comes from the working class, that'd be you and me and whatever else is left of it.
I think that Wall Street investment bankers are, for the most part, ticks on the body of the nation. So Clinton got her money from parasites. Donald Trump, however, was/is a parasite.

So, I donno, it's a close race.
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This is all just the beginning of the stank that will be the administration Putin's American Governor.


Have you paid your internet taxes?
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Dec 16 2016, 08:29 PM
This is all just the beginning of the stank that will be the administration Putin's American Governor.
Because of liberals unwillingness to grow up, this is all just the beginning of the death of their ideology....History books will record that the liberals "bridge too far" was transgender use of restrooms....... :booboo:
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