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Trump on alleged election interference by Russia: ‘Get on with our lives’
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No....That is a liberal crackpot lie (bound to fail like all your previous ones ).....You can't handle the truth about your Party !!!............ :)
You should stop while your far behind.
You should recognize when a foreign leader helps our people discover political corruption........ :tongue:
I must mention that archaic Britain is one of a few nations in the world that gives an allowance to a billionaire queen and rebuilds her biggest castle at taxpayer expense....Queen Elizabeth must be the biggest welfare momma in the world
The American welfare momma you despise is supported by the state. The Queen of England IS the state. She is also the head of the established church. The government is HER government, she owns it, not the other way around. The idea of a living person as the embodiment of the nation is a very old one and one which our country was established specifically to reject. You don't have to like Betty or agree with the British Constitution but it does help to understand what the Queen is.
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Iran kidnaps 10 US sailors: THEY'RE JUST GUESTS
Russia embarrasses the Democrats: DEFCON 1!
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Expecting those loyal patriotic Americans who didn't not vote for the Russian endorsed candidate to just forget about it and move on with our lives is not particularly realistic.

We're not going to forget. We will remember. And it will be a problem going forward. Deal with it.
It didn't have to be a problem in the first place.


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Expecting those loyal patriotic Americans who didn't not vote for the Russian endorsed candidate to just forget about it and move on with our lives is not particularly realistic.

We're not going to forget. We will remember. And it will be a problem going forward. Deal with it.
LOL...zero proof....

Russia invades Crimea: oh well

Russia shoots down airliner: mistakes happen

John Podesta falls for phishing scam: RESTART THE COLD WAR

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Expecting those loyal patriotic Americans who didn't not vote for the Russian endorsed candidate to just forget about it and move on with our lives is not particularly realistic.

We're not going to forget. We will remember. And it will be a problem going forward. Deal with it.
LOL...zero proof....

Russia invades Crimea: oh well

Russia shoots down airliner: mistakes happen

John Podesta falls for phishing scam: RESTART THE COLD WAR

:rockon:
Not everyone believes that the best course of action when confronted by a challenge is to immediately respond without laying the ground work for an effective response.
I understand Obama is all pouty because Putin ate his lunch in Ukraine and Syria, but—c'mon man!—try to exit the stage with some dignity.
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Trump on alleged election interference by Russia: ‘Get on with our lives’

President-elect Donald Trump distanced himself Wednesday night from the Obama administration’s plans to punish Russia for its alleged interference in the 2016 presidential election, telling reporters “I think we ought to get on with our lives.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-on-alleged-election-interference-by-russia-%E2%80%98get-on-with-our-lives%E2%80%99/ar-BBxFD8j?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

Here is the full context quote form your article.

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"I think we ought to get on with our lives,” Trump said in response. “I think that computers have complicated lives very greatly. The whole age of computer has made it where nobody knows exactly what’s going on. We have speed, we have a lot of other things, but I'm not sure we have the kind the security we need.”


It does not seem to me that he is answering a question about the Russian sanctions there. Getting on with our lives can include sanctions on Russia assuming we have iron clad proof of their guilt in the DNC hacks.

I know that the State of Georgia does have iron clad proof that Obama had his admin attempt to hack their voting system. Should Georgia be putting sanctions on Obama personally? Just curios.

I do agree with expelling the intelligence operatives though. Just on principle.

As usual President-elect Trump offers a vague and wandering comment that demonstrates no direction or even an understanding of the issue, never mind actually taking a stand for this nation over Russia.


If President Obama and his administration hacked into any States election system it is a crime that should be prosecuted. Unfortunately it appears that you have been taken in by the common dishonesty we have come to expect from conservatives on issues such as these.

Not President Obama and not 'his administration'; a comment that intends to give the impression that it comes from the basement of the White House in a covert operation.

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/310812-dhs-responds-to-hacking-accusations-from-Georgia







From your link it appears that Kemp disagrees with the conclusions of the DHS folks.

My point is that as far as I can tell, Kemp has roughly the exact same "proof" that President Obama was personally behind the attack on his State's systems that Obama has as "Proof" that Putin was personally behind the attack on the DNC's servers.

Normally I would not be this harsh on our cyber folks but they were totally dead ass wrong in their conclusions on the NK hack of Sony and a couple others. This has led me to question pretty much all of their conclusions because it seems that the Obama admin has a habit of releasing a statement saying that they have definitive proof of things only to have their conclusions debunked by private sector security folks later.
DHS sent Georgia Secretary of State Kemp the explanation. That this Republican representative that has spearheaded voter supression in his State decided to reject it is hardly a new procedure in Republican circles, along with his request that President-elect Trump investigate the incident / procedure.


Yet the irony here is far greater. We have a request for the President-elect to investigate this incident in the face of the explanation given which is easily verified and a call by the President-elect and his conservatives supporters to dismiss the hacking by the Russians.

Does anything about that make sense? We will outright reject what our own agencies tell us and the President but by pass what Russia and President Putin orchestrated during our own elections?

That is politics first and not "America First".


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Trump on alleged election interference by Russia: ‘Get on with our lives’

President-elect Donald Trump distanced himself Wednesday night from the Obama administration’s plans to punish Russia for its alleged interference in the 2016 presidential election, telling reporters “I think we ought to get on with our lives.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-on-alleged-election-interference-by-russia-%E2%80%98get-on-with-our-lives%E2%80%99/ar-BBxFD8j?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

Here is the full context quote form your article.

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"I think we ought to get on with our lives,” Trump said in response. “I think that computers have complicated lives very greatly. The whole age of computer has made it where nobody knows exactly what’s going on. We have speed, we have a lot of other things, but I'm not sure we have the kind the security we need.”


It does not seem to me that he is answering a question about the Russian sanctions there. Getting on with our lives can include sanctions on Russia assuming we have iron clad proof of their guilt in the DNC hacks.

I know that the State of Georgia does have iron clad proof that Obama had his admin attempt to hack their voting system. Should Georgia be putting sanctions on Obama personally? Just curios.

I do agree with expelling the intelligence operatives though. Just on principle.

As usual President-elect Trump offers a vague and wandering comment that demonstrates no direction or even an understanding of the issue, never mind actually taking a stand for this nation over Russia.


If President Obama and his administration hacked into any States election system it is a crime that should be prosecuted. Unfortunately it appears that you have been taken in by the common dishonesty we have come to expect from conservatives on issues such as these.

Not President Obama and not 'his administration'; a comment that intends to give the impression that it comes from the basement of the White House in a covert operation.

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/310812-dhs-responds-to-hacking-accusations-from-Georgia







From your link it appears that Kemp disagrees with the conclusions of the DHS folks.

My point is that as far as I can tell, Kemp has roughly the exact same "proof" that President Obama was personally behind the attack on his State's systems that Obama has as "Proof" that Putin was personally behind the attack on the DNC's servers.

Normally I would not be this harsh on our cyber folks but they were totally dead ass wrong in their conclusions on the NK hack of Sony and a couple others. This has led me to question pretty much all of their conclusions because it seems that the Obama admin has a habit of releasing a statement saying that they have definitive proof of things only to have their conclusions debunked by private sector security folks later.
DHS sent Georgia Secretary of State Kemp the explanation. That this Republican representative that has spearheaded voter supression in his State decided to reject it is hardly a new procedure in Republican circles, along with his request that President-elect Trump investigate the incident / procedure.


Yet the irony here is far greater. We have a request for the President-elect to investigate this incident in the face of the explanation given which is easily verified and a call by the President-elect and his conservatives supporters to dismiss the hacking by the Russians.

Does anything about that make sense? We will outright reject what our own agencies tell us and the President but by pass what Russia and President Putin orchestrated during our own elections?

That is politics first and not "America First".


Do you think Iraq had WMD's and we were right to invade Iraq based on that intelligence?
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Expecting those loyal patriotic Americans who didn't not vote for the Russian endorsed candidate to just forget about it and move on with our lives is not particularly realistic.

We're not going to forget. We will remember. And it will be a problem going forward. Deal with it.
LOL...zero proof....

Russia invades Crimea: oh well

Russia shoots down airliner: mistakes happen

John Podesta falls for phishing scam: RESTART THE COLD WAR

:rockon:
Not everyone believes that the best course of action when confronted by a challenge is to immediately respond without laying the ground work for an effective response.
I understand Obama is all pouty because Putin ate his lunch in Ukraine and Syria, but—c'mon man!—try to exit the stage with some dignity.
President Obama is. Along with actually placing America first.

However, if dignity is your issue than how is it you are ignoring the total lack of dignity with which President-elect Trump has been conducting himself?



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Quoting limited to 5 levels deepTrump on alleged election interference by Russia: ‘Get on with our lives’

President-elect Donald Trump distanced himself Wednesday night from the Obama administration’s plans to punish Russia for its alleged interference in the 2016 presidential election, telling reporters “I think we ought to get on with our lives.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-on-alleged-election-interference-by-russia-%E2%80%98get-on-with-our-lives%E2%80%99/ar-BBxFD8j?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
As usual President-elect Trump offers a vague and wandering comment that demonstrates no direction or even an understanding of the issue, never mind actually taking a stand for this nation over Russia.


If President Obama and his administration hacked into any States election system it is a crime that should be prosecuted. Unfortunately it appears that you have been taken in by the common dishonesty we have come to expect from conservatives on issues such as these.

Not President Obama and not 'his administration'; a comment that intends to give the impression that it comes from the basement of the White House in a covert operation.

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/310812-dhs-responds-to-hacking-accusations-from-Georgia







From your link it appears that Kemp disagrees with the conclusions of the DHS folks.

My point is that as far as I can tell, Kemp has roughly the exact same "proof" that President Obama was personally behind the attack on his State's systems that Obama has as "Proof" that Putin was personally behind the attack on the DNC's servers.

Normally I would not be this harsh on our cyber folks but they were totally dead ass wrong in their conclusions on the NK hack of Sony and a couple others. This has led me to question pretty much all of their conclusions because it seems that the Obama admin has a habit of releasing a statement saying that they have definitive proof of things only to have their conclusions debunked by private sector security folks later.
DHS sent Georgia Secretary of State Kemp the explanation. That this Republican representative that has spearheaded voter supression in his State decided to reject it is hardly a new procedure in Republican circles, along with his request that President-elect Trump investigate the incident / procedure.


Yet the irony here is far greater. We have a request for the President-elect to investigate this incident in the face of the explanation given which is easily verified and a call by the President-elect and his conservatives supporters to dismiss the hacking by the Russians.

Does anything about that make sense? We will outright reject what our own agencies tell us and the President but by pass what Russia and President Putin orchestrated during our own elections?

That is politics first and not "America First".


Do you think Iraq had WMD's and we were right to invade Iraq based on that intelligence?
You mean the lies that Secretary of State Powell knowingly placed before the U.N.?

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Quoting limited to 5 levels deepTrump on alleged election interference by Russia: ‘Get on with our lives’

President-elect Donald Trump distanced himself Wednesday night from the Obama administration’s plans to punish Russia for its alleged interference in the 2016 presidential election, telling reporters “I think we ought to get on with our lives.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-on-alleged-election-interference-by-russia-%E2%80%98get-on-with-our-lives%E2%80%99/ar-BBxFD8j?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
As usual President-elect Trump offers a vague and wandering comment that demonstrates no direction or even an understanding of the issue, never mind actually taking a stand for this nation over Russia.


If President Obama and his administration hacked into any States election system it is a crime that should be prosecuted. Unfortunately it appears that you have been taken in by the common dishonesty we have come to expect from conservatives on issues such as these.

Not President Obama and not 'his administration'; a comment that intends to give the impression that it comes from the basement of the White House in a covert operation.

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/310812-dhs-responds-to-hacking-accusations-from-Georgia







From your link it appears that Kemp disagrees with the conclusions of the DHS folks.

My point is that as far as I can tell, Kemp has roughly the exact same "proof" that President Obama was personally behind the attack on his State's systems that Obama has as "Proof" that Putin was personally behind the attack on the DNC's servers.

Normally I would not be this harsh on our cyber folks but they were totally dead ass wrong in their conclusions on the NK hack of Sony and a couple others. This has led me to question pretty much all of their conclusions because it seems that the Obama admin has a habit of releasing a statement saying that they have definitive proof of things only to have their conclusions debunked by private sector security folks later.
DHS sent Georgia Secretary of State Kemp the explanation. That this Republican representative that has spearheaded voter supression in his State decided to reject it is hardly a new procedure in Republican circles, along with his request that President-elect Trump investigate the incident / procedure.


Yet the irony here is far greater. We have a request for the President-elect to investigate this incident in the face of the explanation given which is easily verified and a call by the President-elect and his conservatives supporters to dismiss the hacking by the Russians.

Does anything about that make sense? We will outright reject what our own agencies tell us and the President but by pass what Russia and President Putin orchestrated during our own elections?

That is politics first and not "America First".


Do you think Iraq had WMD's and we were right to invade Iraq based on that intelligence?
The pre-war intelligence on Iraq: Wrong or hyped by the Bush White House?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/12/13/the-pre-war-intelligence-on-iraq-wrong-or-hyped-by-the-bush-white-house/?utm_term=.f55fbe8a05bd

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Trump believes that Putin had no effect on the US election, like Obama had no effect on the Israel election............... :)
Effect or not, he interfered with the U.S Elections. That should have united Americans but I guess that can only happen when one puts their faith in America and not in Russia.

What the hell happened to conservatism? The party of Reagan? Now the Party of 'Putin and Pals'.


Hillary happened...She was a greater threat to world peace and the American way of life, than Putin leaking E-mails of the Democratic Party...What is so bad about leaking the truth about our political system to the American people ??? Perhaps Putin deserves a medal for what he has done for America............. :lol:
You are assuming those emails are real. It would not be hard for an organized hacking attack to slip in some juicy false emails designed to have the most disruptive effect.

It is interesting though that we have elected a President that seems more intent on protecting Russia and Israel than he is the United States. If Obama or any Democrat had been this open in his support of a foreign country the Right would have been having fits.
Has anyone dared to claim the E-mails they sent or received were not authentic ???............. :rotflmao:
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You should stop while your far behind.
You should recognize when a foreign leader helps our people discover political corruption........ :tongue:
I must mention that archaic Britain is one of a few nations in the world that gives an allowance to a billionaire queen and rebuilds her biggest castle at taxpayer expense....Queen Elizabeth must be the biggest welfare momma in the world
The American welfare momma you despise is supported by the state. The Queen of England IS the state. She is also the head of the established church. The government is HER government, she owns it, not the other way around. The idea of a living person as the embodiment of the nation is a very old one and one which our country was established specifically to reject. You don't have to like Betty or agree with the British Constitution but it does help to understand what the Queen is.
Queen Elizabeth is on treading on thin ice...After the arrival of many French refugees to Britain, she could lose her head............ :biggrin:
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I just couldn't resist, as it seems you librawls have such short memories.

You've been lied to for the last 8 years fur sure and I'll let the pantsuit finish up for me!!!


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I just couldn't resist, as it seems you librawls have such short memories.

You've been lied to for the last 8 years fur sure and I'll let the pantsuit finish up for me!!!


There's a reason why you offer two seconds and avoid all context.

A dishonest conservative investigation. A dishonest out of context clip.


Yes, we all remember the dishonest conservative investigations and how conservatives dishonestly discussed it.


Is this your way of siding with Russia or are do you believe the hacking is serious and should be investigated at least as hard as conservatives investigated an incident of oral sex.

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Trump believes that Putin had no effect on the US election, like Obama had no effect on the Israel election............... :)
Effect or not, he interfered with the U.S Elections. That should have united Americans but I guess that can only happen when one puts their faith in America and not in Russia.

What the hell happened to conservatism? The party of Reagan? Now the Party of 'Putin and Pals'.


Hillary happened...She was a greater threat to world peace and the American way of life, than Putin leaking E-mails of the Democratic Party...What is so bad about leaking the truth about our political system to the American people ??? Perhaps Putin deserves a medal for what he has done for America............. :lol:
You are assuming those emails are real. It would not be hard for an organized hacking attack to slip in some juicy false emails designed to have the most disruptive effect.

It is interesting though that we have elected a President that seems more intent on protecting Russia and Israel than he is the United States. If Obama or any Democrat had been this open in his support of a foreign country the Right would have been having fits.
Has anyone dared to claim the E-mails they sent or received were not authentic ???............. :rotflmao:
Yes, several of the "authors" of the emails have including Podesta.
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I just couldn't resist, as it seems you librawls have such short memories.

You've been lied to for the last 8 years fur sure and I'll let the pantsuit finish up for me!!!


There's a reason why you offer two seconds and avoid all context.

A dishonest conservative investigation. A dishonest out of context clip.


Yes, we all remember the dishonest conservative investigations and how conservatives dishonestly discussed it.


Is this your way of siding with Russia or are do you believe the hacking is serious and should be investigated at least as hard as conservatives investigated an incident of oral sex.

Why do Democrats always have a hard on ???.................... :dunno:
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I just couldn't resist, as it seems you librawls have such short memories.

You've been lied to for the last 8 years fur sure and I'll let the pantsuit finish up for me!!!


She was correct. How is this a lie? Or are you lying about Clinton?
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Hillary happened...She was a greater threat to world peace and the American way of life, than Putin leaking E-mails of the Democratic Party...What is so bad about leaking the truth about our political system to the American people ??? Perhaps Putin deserves a medal for what he has done for America............. :lol:
You are assuming those emails are real. It would not be hard for an organized hacking attack to slip in some juicy false emails designed to have the most disruptive effect.

It is interesting though that we have elected a President that seems more intent on protecting Russia and Israel than he is the United States. If Obama or any Democrat had been this open in his support of a foreign country the Right would have been having fits.
Has anyone dared to claim the E-mails they sent or received were not authentic ???............. :rotflmao:
Yes, several of the "authors" of the emails have including Podesta.
Good...Independent hackers will prove his is a liar............. :hooray:
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When Trump was running for president he wanted Hillary in federal prison, because of her lax approach to national security matters. Now that he's president-elect he thinks it's perfectly normal to be in bed with the Russians.

:shakeshead:

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When Trump was running for president he wanted Hillary in federal prison, because of her lax approach to national security matters. Now that he's president-elect he thinks it's perfectly normal to be in bed with the Russians.

:shakeshead:

Know one is sure who Hillary is sleeping with, but it probably isn't with Bill...He lives alone in his own apartment............ :dunno:
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