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Proving the Russian hack without revealing too much is a challenge; Why us mere mortals may not and probably should not see the evidence
Topic Started: Jan 1 2017, 08:26 PM (1,288 Views)
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Jan 3 2017, 01:11 PM
estonianman
Jan 3 2017, 12:55 PM
If Hillary had won - do you think the democrats would be perpetuating this red scare?
Yes because Democrats really care about national security. Republicans seem more intent on refilling the swamp with their own critters.
Yes Hillary's unsecured toilet server showed us exactly how much she and many other Democrats (including Obama) cared about National Security....
Donald Trump is Barack Obama's President!
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Jan 3 2017, 01:11 PM
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Jan 3 2017, 12:55 PM
If Hillary had won - do you think the democrats would be perpetuating this red scare?
Yes because Democrats really care about national security. Republicans seem more intent on refilling the swamp with their own critters.
Yes Hillary's unsecured toilet server showed us exactly how much she and many other Democrats (including Obama) cared about National Security....
Apparently it had enough security because there was no evidence that it was hacked and as we are seeing, hackers do leave tracks.
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Good luck selling that bridge to anyone outside the idiot DNC base BF...
Donald Trump is Barack Obama's President!
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Jan 3 2017, 01:41 PM
Good luck selling that bridge to anyone outside the idiot DNC base BF...
You have evidence it was hacked? Didn't think so since the best at the FBI couldn't find it.
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You're wasting your time BF, nobody here is gonna buy that bridge...
Donald Trump is Barack Obama's President!
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Jan 3 2017, 02:12 PM
You're wasting your time BF, nobody here is gonna buy that bridge...
I think that the left is deluding itself when it tells normal people that they were somehow suckered by the Russians’ truthful revelations of true stuff that showed the true depth of Democratic corruption.

IOW “You flyover rubes are so stupid that you can be manipulated by the facts that we were too incompetent to effectively hide from you!” is probably not a great way to win hearts and minds, but hey progs, feel free to go with it.

:pray:
Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence.
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Jan 3 2017, 03:43 PM
Right-Wing
Jan 3 2017, 02:12 PM
You're wasting your time BF, nobody here is gonna buy that bridge...
I think that the left is deluding itself when it tells normal people that they were somehow suckered by the Russians’ truthful revelations of true stuff that showed the true depth of Democratic corruption.

IOW “You flyover rubes are so stupid that you can be manipulated by the facts that we were too incompetent to effectively hide from you!” is probably not a great way to win hearts and minds, but hey progs, feel free to go with it.

:pray:
The Russians decided to corrupt the American Presidential Election by revealing how the Democrats were corrupting the US Presidential Election...huh? Really?

And for someone like BF to try to convince anyone that knows how to turn a computer on that the Russians, Chinese, Iranians and the North Koreans didn't infiltrate HRC's unprotected toilet bowl server is laughable on its face.
Donald Trump is Barack Obama's President!
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Jan 3 2017, 04:47 PM
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Jan 3 2017, 03:43 PM
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Jan 3 2017, 02:12 PM
You're wasting your time BF, nobody here is gonna buy that bridge...
I think that the left is deluding itself when it tells normal people that they were somehow suckered by the Russians’ truthful revelations of true stuff that showed the true depth of Democratic corruption.

IOW “You flyover rubes are so stupid that you can be manipulated by the facts that we were too incompetent to effectively hide from you!” is probably not a great way to win hearts and minds, but hey progs, feel free to go with it.

:pray:
The Russians decided to corrupt the American Presidential Election by revealing how the Democrats were corrupting the US Presidential Election...huh? Really?

And for someone like BF to try to convince anyone that knows how to turn a computer on that the Russians, Chinese, Iranians and the North Koreans didn't infiltrate HRC's unprotected toilet bowl server is laughable on its face.
So you have done a security analysis of Clinton's server? You know it didn't have any security features?

Or, as usual, you are just lying.
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Jan 3 2017, 05:25 PM
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Jan 3 2017, 04:47 PM
clone
Jan 3 2017, 03:43 PM
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Jan 3 2017, 02:12 PM
You're wasting your time BF, nobody here is gonna buy that bridge...
I think that the left is deluding itself when it tells normal people that they were somehow suckered by the Russians’ truthful revelations of true stuff that showed the true depth of Democratic corruption.

IOW “You flyover rubes are so stupid that you can be manipulated by the facts that we were too incompetent to effectively hide from you!” is probably not a great way to win hearts and minds, but hey progs, feel free to go with it.

:pray:
The Russians decided to corrupt the American Presidential Election by revealing how the Democrats were corrupting the US Presidential Election...huh? Really?

And for someone like BF to try to convince anyone that knows how to turn a computer on that the Russians, Chinese, Iranians and the North Koreans didn't infiltrate HRC's unprotected toilet bowl server is laughable on its face.
So you have done a security analysis of Clinton's server? You know it didn't have any security features?

Or, as usual, you are just lying.
Bryan Pagliano probably could have told us what security features were there....if he hadn't plead the fifth more than 125 times. BF..keep selling that bridge buddy...I'm sure somebody will buy it.

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BuckFan
Jan 3 2017, 05:25 PM
Right-Wing
Jan 3 2017, 04:47 PM
clone
Jan 3 2017, 03:43 PM
Right-Wing
Jan 3 2017, 02:12 PM
You're wasting your time BF, nobody here is gonna buy that bridge...
I think that the left is deluding itself when it tells normal people that they were somehow suckered by the Russians’ truthful revelations of true stuff that showed the true depth of Democratic corruption.

IOW “You flyover rubes are so stupid that you can be manipulated by the facts that we were too incompetent to effectively hide from you!” is probably not a great way to win hearts and minds, but hey progs, feel free to go with it.

:pray:
The Russians decided to corrupt the American Presidential Election by revealing how the Democrats were corrupting the US Presidential Election...huh? Really?

And for someone like BF to try to convince anyone that knows how to turn a computer on that the Russians, Chinese, Iranians and the North Koreans didn't infiltrate HRC's unprotected toilet bowl server is laughable on its face.
So you have done a security analysis of Clinton's server? You know it didn't have any security features?

Or, as usual, you are just lying.
Your fake news source not familiarize you with my girl Katica?

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Jan 3 2017, 12:53 PM
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Jan 3 2017, 04:46 AM
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Jan 1 2017, 10:35 PM
Notice the trend in the Righties? When they get caught with their hand in the proverbial cookie jar they try to deflect to the Left.

Trump is a sycophant for Putin so we get the Obama/Russian memes

the Right relies on fictional news stories to feed their media machine and now that it is out in the open, they claim anything that counters their beliefs is "fake news".
Notice the trend in Lefties? Unable to fathom that the American people don't want them or their policies, they have a new reason every week why they lost. The first stage is acceptance.... you losers.
More people voted for our gal than your guy
Think of football Bucky...

The winner is determined by points scored.....not yards gained.
Ringoism: Never underestimate the advantages of being underestimated.
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ringotuna
Jan 4 2017, 04:26 AM
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Jan 3 2017, 12:53 PM
jake58
Jan 3 2017, 04:46 AM
BuckFan
Jan 1 2017, 10:35 PM
Notice the trend in the Righties? When they get caught with their hand in the proverbial cookie jar they try to deflect to the Left.

Trump is a sycophant for Putin so we get the Obama/Russian memes

the Right relies on fictional news stories to feed their media machine and now that it is out in the open, they claim anything that counters their beliefs is "fake news".
Notice the trend in Lefties? Unable to fathom that the American people don't want them or their policies, they have a new reason every week why they lost. The first stage is acceptance.... you losers.
More people voted for our gal than your guy
Think of football Bucky...

The winner is determined by points scored.....not yards gained.
But you can't say you out gained the other team just because you won.

The statement was made the American people wanted Trump. That is not true, Clinton "out gained" Trump in the popular vote which is the American people.

Trump won on the "score board" of the Electoral College which is not the American people.
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BuckFan
Jan 4 2017, 01:58 PM
ringotuna
Jan 4 2017, 04:26 AM
BuckFan
Jan 3 2017, 12:53 PM
jake58
Jan 3 2017, 04:46 AM
BuckFan
Jan 1 2017, 10:35 PM
Notice the trend in the Righties? When they get caught with their hand in the proverbial cookie jar they try to deflect to the Left.

Trump is a sycophant for Putin so we get the Obama/Russian memes

the Right relies on fictional news stories to feed their media machine and now that it is out in the open, they claim anything that counters their beliefs is "fake news".
Notice the trend in Lefties? Unable to fathom that the American people don't want them or their policies, they have a new reason every week why they lost. The first stage is acceptance.... you losers.
More people voted for our gal than your guy
Think of football Bucky...

The winner is determined by points scored.....not yards gained.
But you can't say you out gained the other team just because you won.

The statement was made the American people wanted Trump. That is not true, Clinton "out gained" Trump in the popular vote which is the American people.

Trump won on the "score board" of the Electoral College which is not the American people.
Actually it is the American people....illegals, deceased, two time voters etc....made up the rest....if the goal was the most votes Trump would have campaigned totally different....

Trump played to win.....

Hillary cheated to get the nomination and then played to be coronated....
Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence.
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Jan 4 2017, 01:58 PM
ringotuna
Jan 4 2017, 04:26 AM
BuckFan
Jan 3 2017, 12:53 PM
jake58
Jan 3 2017, 04:46 AM
BuckFan
Jan 1 2017, 10:35 PM
Notice the trend in the Righties? When they get caught with their hand in the proverbial cookie jar they try to deflect to the Left.

Trump is a sycophant for Putin so we get the Obama/Russian memes

the Right relies on fictional news stories to feed their media machine and now that it is out in the open, they claim anything that counters their beliefs is "fake news".
Notice the trend in Lefties? Unable to fathom that the American people don't want them or their policies, they have a new reason every week why they lost. The first stage is acceptance.... you losers.
More people voted for our gal than your guy
Think of football Bucky...

The winner is determined by points scored.....not yards gained.
But you can't say you out gained the other team just because you won.

The statement was made the American people wanted Trump. That is not true, Clinton "out gained" Trump in the popular vote which is the American people.

Trump won on the "score board" of the Electoral College which is not the American people.
It's the American electoral system.
Ringoism: Never underestimate the advantages of being underestimated.
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ringotuna
Jan 4 2017, 03:43 PM
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Jan 4 2017, 04:26 AM
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Jan 3 2017, 12:53 PM
jake58
Jan 3 2017, 04:46 AM

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More people voted for our gal than your guy
Think of football Bucky...

The winner is determined by points scored.....not yards gained.
But you can't say you out gained the other team just because you won.

The statement was made the American people wanted Trump. That is not true, Clinton "out gained" Trump in the popular vote which is the American people.

Trump won on the "score board" of the Electoral College which is not the American people.
It's the American electoral system.
I'm not claiming that Trump did not win. Under our system he did.

But the statement that American's supported him is not necessarily true since more people voted for his opponent.
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Jan 4 2017, 05:27 PM
ringotuna
Jan 4 2017, 03:43 PM
BuckFan
Jan 4 2017, 01:58 PM
ringotuna
Jan 4 2017, 04:26 AM
BuckFan
Jan 3 2017, 12:53 PM

Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
Think of football Bucky...

The winner is determined by points scored.....not yards gained.
But you can't say you out gained the other team just because you won.

The statement was made the American people wanted Trump. That is not true, Clinton "out gained" Trump in the popular vote which is the American people.

Trump won on the "score board" of the Electoral College which is not the American people.
It's the American electoral system.
I'm not claiming that Trump did not win. Under our system he did.

But the statement that American's supported him is not necessarily true since more people voted for his opponent.
It's a bit of a conundrum. Voting for either candidate in this election isn't necessarily an enthusiastic endorsement. More than any other election, I believe a great number of voters choked back the vomit and pulled the lever for the candidate they felt was the least despicable. How it breaks down is anyone's guess but saying Clinton won the popular says very little in this environment.
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BuckFan
Jan 3 2017, 01:11 PM
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Jan 3 2017, 12:55 PM
If Hillary had won - do you think the democrats would be perpetuating this red scare?
Yes because Democrats really care about national security. Republicans seem more intent on refilling the swamp with their own critters.
I seriously doubt it considering democrats were cheering for Wikileaks back during the Iraq war.

My money is on a democrat insider that knew about the corruption and wanted the the world to know about it.

The DNCs own Chelsea Manning.

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Jan 4 2017, 01:58 PM
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Jan 4 2017, 04:26 AM
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Jan 3 2017, 12:53 PM

Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
Think of football Bucky...

The winner is determined by points scored.....not yards gained.
But you can't say you out gained the other team just because you won.

The statement was made the American people wanted Trump. That is not true, Clinton "out gained" Trump in the popular vote which is the American people.

Trump won on the "score board" of the Electoral College which is not the American people.
It's the American electoral system.
I'm not claiming that Trump did not win. Under our system he did.

But the statement that American's supported him is not necessarily true since more people voted for his opponent.
If you exclude California - 75% voter participation(?), rest of country 55%... Trump wins popular vote by over a million. I vote to exclude California as I don't want those tosspots picking our President ad nauseum.

That which can be asserted without evidence; can be dismissed without evidence- Christopher Hitchens
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Jan 4 2017, 01:58 PM
ringotuna
Jan 4 2017, 04:26 AM

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But you can't say you out gained the other team just because you won.

The statement was made the American people wanted Trump. That is not true, Clinton "out gained" Trump in the popular vote which is the American people.

Trump won on the "score board" of the Electoral College which is not the American people.
It's the American electoral system.
I'm not claiming that Trump did not win. Under our system he did.

But the statement that American's supported him is not necessarily true since more people voted for his opponent.
If you exclude California - 75% voter participation(?), rest of country 55%... Trump wins popular vote by over a million. I vote to exclude California as I don't want those tosspots picking our President ad nauseum.

So we will selectively disallow votes because they will turn the numbers away from our desired outcome. Hmmm, which Red state do I want to throw out.
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Jan 4 2017, 09:40 PM
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Jan 4 2017, 07:29 PM
BuckFan
Jan 4 2017, 05:27 PM
ringotuna
Jan 4 2017, 03:43 PM
BuckFan
Jan 4 2017, 01:58 PM

Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
It's the American electoral system.
I'm not claiming that Trump did not win. Under our system he did.

But the statement that American's supported him is not necessarily true since more people voted for his opponent.
If you exclude California - 75% voter participation(?), rest of country 55%... Trump wins popular vote by over a million. I vote to exclude California as I don't want those tosspots picking our President ad nauseum.

So we will selectively disallow votes because they will turn the numbers away from our desired outcome. Hmmm, which Red state do I want to throw out.
Well ya tried Pennsylvania, Michigan, & Wisconsin.....

How'd that work out for ya?


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