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Absolutely Stunning – Leaked Audio of Secretary Kerry Reveals President Obama Intentionally Allowed Rise of ISIS…
Topic Started: Jan 2 2017, 12:04 PM (977 Views)
grannyhawkins
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I say that big talk's worth doodly-squat
Absolutely Stunning – Leaked Audio of Secretary Kerry Reveals President Obama Intentionally Allowed Rise of ISIS…
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/01/01/absolutely-stunning-leaked-audio-of-secretary-kerry-reveals-president-obama-intentionally-allowed-rise-of-isis/

There are moments within investigative research when your jaw can stand agape as you recognize the scope of what you are reading or hearing. A brutally down-played audio of Secretary John Kerry is just such an occasion.
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The seed from which ISIS sprang was the "de-Baathification" of Iraq after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. This was the work of Don Rumsfeld and the Decider. Attacking ISIS would have meant (and still does) alliance with Iran in the prosecution of a Shia war on Sunnis. We backed the Sunnis; in fact, Mr. Rumsfeld flew to Baghdad and gave Saddam a pair of solid gold spurs as a prize for attacking Iran. That was before we changed our minds and attacked Saddam as a horrible enemy. All this happened long before Obama took office.

Our problem is that we see the Middle East as sort of like the NFL. We root for the USA team but fail to understand that, unlike American football, there are more than two teams on the field at every moment during every game. Rah! Rah! Go Pats!
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Wow - Trump was right again.

Thank god these imbeciles are all getting sent to woodshed. I hope Trump prosecutes them to the highest extent of the law - class action by all the victims families.
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George Aligator
Jan 2 2017, 12:33 PM
The seed from which ISIS sprang was the "de-Baathification" of Iraq after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. This was the work of Don Rumsfeld and the Decider. Attacking ISIS would have meant (and still does) alliance with Iran in the prosecution of a Shia war on Sunnis. We backed the Sunnis; in fact, Mr. Rumsfeld flew to Baghdad and gave Saddam a pair of solid gold spurs as a prize for attacking Iran. That was before we changed our minds and attacked Saddam as a horrible enemy. All this happened long before Obama took office.

Our problem is that we see the Middle East as sort of like the NFL. We root for the USA team but fail to understand that, unlike American football, there are more than two teams on the field at every moment during every game. Rah! Rah! Go Pats!
It is a stretch to blame Bush when Obama's CIA initially trained Baghdadi................... :rollseyes:
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The lies of the Right continue. No where in this summary of the article linked did Kerry say anything about supporting ISIS or letting ISIS go. In fact, in one clip he expresses frustration in not being able to get the Assad opposition to attack ISIS along with Assad.

The real lie here is the one we get repeated over and over. It is the Russian pushed lie so be prepared for Trump to repeat it. Russian wants us to believe that all Assad opposition are ISIS terrorists. That is a lie. That lie gets repeated here. There are the Kurds (not ISIS), moderate opposition to Assad (not ISIS) and then radicals (ISIS). We support two of those three. We attack ISIS.
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BuckFan
Jan 2 2017, 12:44 PM
The lies of the Right continue. No where in this summary of the article linked did Kerry say anything about supporting ISIS or letting ISIS go. In fact, in one clip he expresses frustration in not being able to get the Assad opposition to attack ISIS along with Assad.

The real lie here is the one we get repeated over and over. It is the Russian pushed lie so be prepared for Trump to repeat it. Russian wants us to believe that all Assad opposition are ISIS terrorists. That is a lie. That lie gets repeated here. There are the Kurds (not ISIS), moderate opposition to Assad (not ISIS) and then radicals (ISIS). We support two of those three. We attack ISIS.
There is ample evidence that Obama's "moderate" rebels are terrorists, including Al Qaeda...Get real.............. :rollseyes:
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estonianman
Jan 2 2017, 12:35 PM
Wow - Trump was right again.

Thank god these imbeciles are all getting sent to woodshed. I hope Trump prosecutes them to the highest extent of the law - class action by all the victims families.
More Rightie conspiracy crap.

An Iranian spawned conspiracy theory is that Israel (our buddies remember) created a terrorist training camp to attract and monitor radical terrorists. Of course Iran is fighting both Israel and the terrorists which are Sunni.

InfoWars has taken this a step farther and argued that ISIS and Al-Qaeda are controlled by the CIA and do their bidding.

Yep folks, can't make this stuff up even in Hollywood but yet posters here believe this stuff.
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Jan 2 2017, 12:49 PM
estonianman
Jan 2 2017, 12:35 PM
Wow - Trump was right again.

Thank god these imbeciles are all getting sent to woodshed. I hope Trump prosecutes them to the highest extent of the law - class action by all the victims families.
More Rightie conspiracy crap.

An Iranian spawned conspiracy theory is that Israel (our buddies remember) created a terrorist training camp to attract and monitor radical terrorists. Of course Iran is fighting both Israel and the terrorists which are Sunni.

InfoWars has taken this a step farther and argued that ISIS and Al-Qaeda are controlled by the CIA and do their bidding.

Yep folks, can't make this stuff up even in Hollywood but yet posters here believe this stuff.
18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

I can almost hear the crack of the rope.
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Direct link to audio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4phB-_pXDM
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BuckFan
Jan 2 2017, 12:49 PM
estonianman
Jan 2 2017, 12:35 PM
Wow - Trump was right again.

Thank god these imbeciles are all getting sent to woodshed. I hope Trump prosecutes them to the highest extent of the law - class action by all the victims families.
More Rightie conspiracy crap.

An Iranian spawned conspiracy theory is that Israel (our buddies remember) created a terrorist training camp to attract and monitor radical terrorists. Of course Iran is fighting both Israel and the terrorists which are Sunni.

InfoWars has taken this a step farther and argued that ISIS and Al-Qaeda are controlled by the CIA and do their bidding.

Yep folks, can't make this stuff up even in Hollywood but yet posters here believe this stuff.
The USA gave birth to ISIS, but then it became a juvenile delinquent....Blame Obama for poor parenting............. :biggrin:
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Do you have a different portion of the 45 minute tape than the OP source did because that OP article killed the premise.
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BuckFan
Jan 2 2017, 01:05 PM
Do you have a different portion of the 45 minute tape than the OP source did because that OP article killed the premise.
wait for the transcript.

It appears there is more evidence for a link between Democrats and ISIS, then there is for Putin and Trump.
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BuckFan
Jan 2 2017, 01:05 PM
Do you have a different portion of the 45 minute tape than the OP source did because that OP article killed the premise.
Oh , like when the CIA had Baghdadi released from prison in Iraq and sent him to their training camp in Jordan ???........................ :dunno:
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Trump will fix everything in three weeks.
All of this lead up is just time filler.
Edited by CautionaryTales, Jan 2 2017, 01:14 PM.


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CautionaryTales
Jan 2 2017, 01:14 PM
Trump will fix everything in three weeks.
All of this lead up is just time filler.
Trump has a secret plan to defeat ISIS....Rumor has it that he will nuke them if the Pentagon doesn't defeat ISIS in a year........ :biggrin:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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Robert Stout
Jan 2 2017, 01:17 PM
CautionaryTales
Jan 2 2017, 01:14 PM
Trump will fix everything in three weeks.
All of this lead up is just time filler.
Trump has a secret plan to defeat ISIS....Rumor has it that he will nuke them if the Pentagon doesn't defeat ISIS in a year........ :biggrin:
His best bet is to pay them to change their name.


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estonianman
Jan 2 2017, 01:10 PM
BuckFan
Jan 2 2017, 01:05 PM
Do you have a different portion of the 45 minute tape than the OP source did because that OP article killed the premise.
wait for the transcript.

It appears there is more evidence for a link between Democrats and ISIS, then there is for Putin and Trump.
I won't hold my breath
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Jan 2 2017, 01:13 PM
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Jan 2 2017, 01:05 PM
Do you have a different portion of the 45 minute tape than the OP source did because that OP article killed the premise.
Oh , like when the CIA had Baghdadi released from prison in Iraq and sent him to their training camp in Jordan ???........................ :dunno:
There's that InfoWars conspiracy theory rearing its ugly head....
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jake58

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Jan 2 2017, 01:32 PM
Robert Stout
Jan 2 2017, 01:13 PM
BuckFan
Jan 2 2017, 01:05 PM
Do you have a different portion of the 45 minute tape than the OP source did because that OP article killed the premise.
Oh , like when the CIA had Baghdadi released from prison in Iraq and sent him to their training camp in Jordan ???........................ :dunno:
There's that InfoWars conspiracy theory rearing its ugly head....
yeah, right up there with the Russians hacking into our electrical grid... thanks WaPo
That which can be asserted without evidence; can be dismissed without evidence- Christopher Hitchens
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jake58
Jan 2 2017, 01:45 PM
BuckFan
Jan 2 2017, 01:32 PM
Robert Stout
Jan 2 2017, 01:13 PM
BuckFan
Jan 2 2017, 01:05 PM
Do you have a different portion of the 45 minute tape than the OP source did because that OP article killed the premise.
Oh , like when the CIA had Baghdadi released from prison in Iraq and sent him to their training camp in Jordan ???........................ :dunno:
There's that InfoWars conspiracy theory rearing its ugly head....
yeah, right up there with the Russians hacking into our electrical grid... thanks WaPo
Someone realized the information that was reported was wrong and retracted it.
Didn't continue to claim it to be true.
See the difference?
Edited by CautionaryTales, Jan 2 2017, 02:22 PM.


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