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Trump tweet slams GM for ‘Mexican-made’ Chevy Cruze, but most cars built in Ohio; Ooops, they are made in Ohio
Topic Started: Jan 3 2017, 03:37 PM (845 Views)
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http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2017/01/03/0103-trump-tweet-chevy-cruz-ohio-built.html

DETROIT — In another tweet targeting a U.S. company, President-elect Donald Trump is threatening to slap a tax on General Motors for importing compact cars to the U.S. from Mexico.

But GM makes the vast majority of compact Chevrolet Cruzes in Lordstown, Ohio, near Cleveland.

Trump tweeted early Tuesday that GM is sending Mexican-made Cruzes to the U.S. tax-free. He told GM to make the cars in the U.S. “or pay big border tax!”

GM imports only hatchback versions of the Cruze from a factory in Ramos Arizpe, Mexico, and it amounts to only a small percentage of the 172,000 Cruzes sold by GM through November, spokesman Patrick Morrissey said. He was working to get the exact number. The hatchback is built in Mexico for global distribution, Morrissey said.
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:nana: The Cruz hatchback is very expensive for a compact car, at near 30K, but it's loaded and it's sexy. For that kind of money I could get a WRX and never look back.
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I see Trump is carrying on that GOP tradition

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Jan 3 2017, 03:37 PM
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2017/01/03/0103-trump-tweet-chevy-cruz-ohio-built.html

DETROIT — In another tweet targeting a U.S. company, President-elect Donald Trump is threatening to slap a tax on General Motors for importing compact cars to the U.S. from Mexico.

But GM makes the vast majority of compact Chevrolet Cruzes in Lordstown, Ohio, near Cleveland.

Trump tweeted early Tuesday that GM is sending Mexican-made Cruzes to the U.S. tax-free. He told GM to make the cars in the U.S. “or pay big border tax!”

GM imports only hatchback versions of the Cruze from a factory in Ramos Arizpe, Mexico, and it amounts to only a small percentage of the 172,000 Cruzes sold by GM through November, spokesman Patrick Morrissey said. He was working to get the exact number. The hatchback is built in Mexico for global distribution, Morrissey said.


Half the truth is the best lie.....

"But what we’re excited about the most is that the new, second-gen Cruze will be available in sedan and hatchback body styles in North America. The former will be made at GM’s plant in Lordstown, Ohio, USA while the latter will be produced at GM’s Ramos Arizpe plant in Mexico. By contrast, the first-generation Cruze was offered only as a four-door sedan in North America, despite being offered in five-door hatchback and five-door wagon body styles in other markets around the world."

Read more: http://gmauthority.com/blog/2016/01/five-facts-about-the-chevy-cruze-that-you-might-not-have-known/#ixzz4Umnh72dO
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Trump gives every impression of being the kind of guy who goes off half xxxxed, not really knowing all the facts, or even really caring about them, and then insists that he's smarter than everyone else and knows what he's talking about, even when he clearly doesn't.
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Jan 4 2017, 10:49 AM
Trump gives every impression of being the kind of guy who goes off half xxxxed, not really knowing all the facts, or even really caring about them, and then insists that he's smarter than everyone else and knows what he's talking about, even when he clearly doesn't.
So, in other words, he's a BS artist.
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The core of Mr. Trump's successful campaign was his promise to improve employment and wages through reform of foreign trade policies. If the voters gave him a mandate for anything, surely it was for this (and for Obamacare).

The trade policies, NAFTA, GATT etc. which have produced the situation Mr. Trump has promised to fix are in the form of treaties and laws ratified by Congress and expressed in rather broad economic terms and rules. Mr. Trump has started off with some presidential laser shots at specific factories owned by specific corporations. So far, so good as his interventions seem to be widely popular.

America's trillions of dollars in international trade can't be managed by a single guy, even if he is POTUS, on a one-at-a-time basis. Trump knows this and has promised to renegotiate these trade agreements, a broad approach that is going to require Congressional agreement.

This is where the swamp comes alive, with lobbyists and special interests busily pulling the strings that make their legislator puppets dance to the company tune. Members of the Trump cabinet and Mr. Trump himself have serious personal stakes in the trade issue. This is pro-business administration. Business has made a lot of dough off NAFTA and GATT, the whole "free trade" issue was their idea. Is Mr. Trump going to be able to walk this tiger back into its cage? One wonders.
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Jan 4 2017, 10:49 AM
Trump gives every impression of being the kind of guy who goes off half xxxxed, not really knowing all the facts, or even really caring about them, and then insists that he's smarter than everyone else and knows what he's talking about, even when he clearly doesn't.
So, in other words, he's a BS artist.
Well, yeah. Obviously.
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Jan 4 2017, 03:02 AM
I see Trump is carrying on that GOP tradition

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Jan 4 2017, 12:49 PM
The core of Mr. Trump's successful campaign was his promise to improve employment and wages through reform of foreign trade policies. If the voters gave him a mandate for anything, surely it was for this (and for Obamacare).

The trade policies, NAFTA, GATT etc. which have produced the situation Mr. Trump has promised to fix are in the form of treaties and laws ratified by Congress and expressed in rather broad economic terms and rules. Mr. Trump has started off with some presidential laser shots at specific factories owned by specific corporations. So far, so good as his interventions seem to be widely popular.

America's trillions of dollars in international trade can't be managed by a single guy, even if he is POTUS, on a one-at-a-time basis. Trump knows this and has promised to renegotiate these trade agreements, a broad approach that is going to require Congressional agreement.

This is where the swamp comes alive, with lobbyists and special interests busily pulling the strings that make their legislator puppets dance to the company tune. Members of the Trump cabinet and Mr. Trump himself have serious personal stakes in the trade issue. This is pro-business administration. Business has made a lot of dough off NAFTA and GATT, the whole "free trade" issue was their idea. Is Mr. Trump going to be able to walk this tiger back into its cage? One wonders.

Have no fear...Trump will make sweeping changes in our trade agreements, despite the special interests of multinational corporations...Failure is only what lesser men, like Obama, do...Real jobs for real Americans may shock you.............. :usa:
Edited by Robert Stout, Jan 4 2017, 01:16 PM.
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Jan 4 2017, 10:49 AM
Trump gives every impression of being the kind of guy who goes off half xxxxed, not really knowing all the facts, or even really caring about them, and then insists that he's smarter than everyone else and knows what he's talking about, even when he clearly doesn't.
So, in other words, he's a BS artist.
Give it time, having a president that is more concerned with American jobs and putting Americans first is a foreign concept. Obama was a great president for the Cubans, the Iranians and the Mexicans. It's as though he had contempt for American companies and workers. Obama thought nothing of forcing American companies offshore, regulating and taxing American companies to death. In Obama's twisted mind they didn't build that anyway. American companies FINALLY have confidence their government will work WITH them instead of AGAINST them.
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We elected a candidate that ran on putting America first and the left is in need of therapy. Really, you lefties can't see how pathetic and anti-American you've become?
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Jan 4 2017, 10:49 AM
Trump gives every impression of being the kind of guy who goes off half xxxxed, not really knowing all the facts, or even really caring about them, and then insists that he's smarter than everyone else and knows what he's talking about, even when he clearly doesn't.
So, in other words, he's a BS artist.
Give it time, having a president that is more concerned with American jobs and putting Americans first is a foreign concept. Obama was a great president for the Cubans, the Iranians and the Mexicans. It's as though he had contempt for American companies and workers. Obama thought nothing of forcing American companies offshore, regulating and taxing American companies to death. In Obama's twisted mind they didn't build that anyway. American companies FINALLY have confidence their government will work WITH them instead of AGAINST them.
Until then, Trump will just take credit for stuff he had nothing to do with.
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Jan 4 2017, 01:27 PM
We elected a candidate that ran on putting America first and the left is in need of therapy. Really, you lefties can't see how pathetic and anti-American you've become?
This from those that support Russia over our own nation and that includes the person you voted for President of the United State. :oyvey

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Jan 4 2017, 01:27 PM
We elected a candidate that ran on putting America first and the left is in need of therapy. Really, you lefties can't see how pathetic and anti-American you've become?
This from those that support Russia over our own nation and that includes the person you voted for President of the United State. :oyvey

Face it, Trump was elected on a Make America Great campaign and you can't stand it. The fact the democrats are too stupid to keep their data secure doesn't make Trump a Russian supporter.

Most of you on the left should really leave, a pro-American president is going to make most of you suicidal. I'm concerned about your health, a warmer climate in Cuba will do you good. Adios..
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Jan 4 2017, 02:07 PM
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Jan 4 2017, 01:59 PM
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Jan 4 2017, 01:27 PM
We elected a candidate that ran on putting America first and the left is in need of therapy. Really, you lefties can't see how pathetic and anti-American you've become?
This from those that support Russia over our own nation and that includes the person you voted for President of the United State. :oyvey

Face it, Trump was elected on a Make America Great campaign and you can't stand it. The fact the democrats are too stupid to keep their data secure doesn't make Trump a Russian supporter.

Most of you on the left should really leave, a pro-American president is going to make most of you suicidal. I'm concerned about your health, a warmer climate in Cuba will do you good. Adios..
Sorry but Tweeting wrong information that demonstrates your ignorance on a daily basis is not "Making America Strong"
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Trump gives every impression of being the kind of guy who goes off half xxxxed, not really knowing all the facts, or even really caring about them, and then insists that he's smarter than everyone else and knows what he's talking about, even when he clearly doesn't.
So, in other words, he's a BS artist.
Give it time, having a president that is more concerned with American jobs and putting Americans first is a foreign concept. Obama was a great president for the Cubans, the Iranians and the Mexicans. It's as though he had contempt for American companies and workers. Obama thought nothing of forcing American companies offshore, regulating and taxing American companies to death. In Obama's twisted mind they didn't build that anyway. American companies FINALLY have confidence their government will work WITH them instead of AGAINST them.
Could you explain your statement that "American companies FINALLY have confidence their government will work WITH them instead of AGAINST them"? The Trump intervention win Carrier, Ford and GM could be seen as presidential veto of corporate strategy and an unsubtle threat of confiscatory taxation (on an otherwise legally imported Chevy Cruz). Popular as these dramatic moves may be with workers, they don't seem very helpful to stockholders or corporate managers. Am I missing something?
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Jan 4 2017, 01:20 PM
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Jan 4 2017, 10:49 AM
Trump gives every impression of being the kind of guy who goes off half xxxxed, not really knowing all the facts, or even really caring about them, and then insists that he's smarter than everyone else and knows what he's talking about, even when he clearly doesn't.
So, in other words, he's a BS artist.
Give it time, having a president that is more concerned with American jobs and putting Americans first is a foreign concept. Obama was a great president for the Cubans, the Iranians and the Mexicans. It's as though he had contempt for American companies and workers. Obama thought nothing of forcing American companies offshore, regulating and taxing American companies to death. In Obama's twisted mind they didn't build that anyway. American companies FINALLY have confidence their government will work WITH them instead of AGAINST them.
Could you explain your statement that "American companies FINALLY have confidence their government will work WITH them instead of AGAINST them"? The Trump intervention win Carrier, Ford and GM could be seen as presidential veto of corporate strategy and an unsubtle threat of confiscatory taxation (on an otherwise legally imported Chevy Cruz). Popular as these dramatic moves may be with workers, they don't seem very helpful to stockholders or corporate managers. Am I missing something?
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Ford (F) CEO Mark Fields said the investment is a "vote of confidence" in the pro-business environment president-elect Donald Trump is creating. However, he stressed Ford did not do any sort of special deal with Trump.

Lowering the corporate tax rate to 15%, replacing ObamaCare and dismantling most of the onerous government regulations is VERY business friendly.

"In all interventionist economies, regulations are not set by the “lawmakers”. The “lawmakers” merely pass the laws, their enforcement is left to the various bureaucratic departments of government. And in order to “enforce” the laws, the bureaucrats see it as their function to impose regulations - countless thousands of them. The cost of complying with these regulations is met by those being regulated. It does NOT show up in the annual budgets (funded or unfunded) of the government."

"In their Ten Thousand Commandments 2012 report which was released in June, the CEI estimates the cost of US government regulation at $US 1.75 TRILLION. That is just under half (48 percent) of the budget of the federal government. It is almost ten times the total of all corporate taxes collected and almost double the total collected from individual income taxes."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/
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Jan 4 2017, 03:20 PM
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Jan 4 2017, 10:49 AM
Trump gives every impression of being the kind of guy who goes off half xxxxed, not really knowing all the facts, or even really caring about them, and then insists that he's smarter than everyone else and knows what he's talking about, even when he clearly doesn't.
So, in other words, he's a BS artist.
Give it time, having a president that is more concerned with American jobs and putting Americans first is a foreign concept. Obama was a great president for the Cubans, the Iranians and the Mexicans. It's as though he had contempt for American companies and workers. Obama thought nothing of forcing American companies offshore, regulating and taxing American companies to death. In Obama's twisted mind they didn't build that anyway. American companies FINALLY have confidence their government will work WITH them instead of AGAINST them.
Could you explain your statement that "American companies FINALLY have confidence their government will work WITH them instead of AGAINST them"? The Trump intervention win Carrier, Ford and GM could be seen as presidential veto of corporate strategy and an unsubtle threat of confiscatory taxation (on an otherwise legally imported Chevy Cruz). Popular as these dramatic moves may be with workers, they don't seem very helpful to stockholders or corporate managers. Am I missing something?
Happy to help...

Ford (F) CEO Mark Fields said the investment is a "vote of confidence" in the pro-business environment president-elect Donald Trump is creating. However, he stressed Ford did not do any sort of special deal with Trump.

Lowering the corporate tax rate to 15%, replacing ObamaCare and dismantling most of the onerous government regulations is VERY business friendly.

"In all interventionist economies, regulations are not set by the “lawmakers”. The “lawmakers” merely pass the laws, their enforcement is left to the various bureaucratic departments of government. And in order to “enforce” the laws, the bureaucrats see it as their function to impose regulations - countless thousands of them. The cost of complying with these regulations is met by those being regulated. It does NOT show up in the annual budgets (funded or unfunded) of the government."

"In their Ten Thousand Commandments 2012 report which was released in June, the CEI estimates the cost of US government regulation at $US 1.75 TRILLION. That is just under half (48 percent) of the budget of the federal government. It is almost ten times the total of all corporate taxes collected and almost double the total collected from individual income taxes."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/
Thank you for clarifying the question. I saw the comment by the Ford guy and I hope he was sincere. He may have been influenced by the sight of Chevy with a gun to its head.

Cutting the corporate rate and eliminating regulations both definitely qualify and "business friendly." Neither one has happened yet. The former will skyrocket the federal deficit unless the economy hits 3.5% growth, the latter is sure to provoke violent resistance over environmental and safety issues, both of which may be harmful to corporate earnings.

There is also the matter of protectionism and possible trade wars. You have been a free trader for as long as I can remember so I don't have to tell you the dangers in this area.

Trump has presented a mix of pro-business and populist approaches. What his administration finally ends up getting through Congress is far from certain at this point. He believes a positive business climate is good for the country. In the real world it is never that simple. However, I'm optimistic. Thanks for your answer.
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