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Will Trump Avoid a Constitutional Crisis?
Topic Started: Jan 10 2017, 07:42 PM (1,531 Views)
estonianman
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La Pasionaria
Jan 10 2017, 07:42 PM
My guess is no.

The American people will soon become very well versed in the Emoluments Clause.

What say you forum participants?

Will Trump Avoid a Constitutional Crisis? http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/will-trump-avoid-a-constitutional-crisis

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He won't avoid the Constitutional crises. He will ignore it.
It's up to Congress and the Courts to step up and do their job.

If they ignore their job they are derelict in their duties and should be considered as accomplices to treason if not actual traitors in their own right.
Will you be threatening the Congress and the court now?
Threatening? How is pointing out that they are refusing to do the job they were elected to do threatening?

By the way. On Friday, Trump will officially become in violation of the Constitution.
Just pointing that out to you.
What specific constitutional violation are to referring to?
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Donald Trump says he will keep personal Twitter account https://goo.gl/Bv4h2c
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Donald Trump says he will keep personal Twitter account https://goo.gl/Bv4h2c
Is this a constitutional crisis? Or are you attempting to fill the thread with tears after it was ended pages ago?
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Donald Trump says he will keep personal Twitter account https://goo.gl/Bv4h2c
Is this a constitutional crisis? Or are you attempting to fill the thread with tears after it was ended pages ago?
Republican says with Trump ‘impeachment needs to be on the table’ http://m.sfgate.com/nation/article/Republican-says-with-Trump-impeachment-needs-10861130.php?utm_campaign=Contact+Quiboat+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=quiboat
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Donald Trump says he will keep personal Twitter account https://goo.gl/Bv4h2c
Is this a constitutional crisis? Or are you attempting to fill the thread with tears after it was ended pages ago?
Republican says with Trump ‘impeachment needs to be on the table’ http://m.sfgate.com/nation/article/Republican-says-with-Trump-impeachment-needs-10861130.php?utm_campaign=Contact+Quiboat+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=quiboat
Based on what?
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sorry La whatever your name is.. ^^ but that One republican doesn't speak for the 60 Million who voted for Trump.. so his fantasies and wishes are pretty much moot! LMAO

notice the title eston? Republican.. not republican's..
;)


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Edited by Katoblue, Jan 17 2017, 12:22 AM.
Killary, DNC, Obummer's DOJ and FBI all Lied and Spied and Good People Died!
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La Pasionaria
Jan 16 2017, 11:57 PM
Donald Trump says he will keep personal Twitter account https://goo.gl/Bv4h2c
Is this a constitutional crisis? Or are you attempting to fill the thread with tears after it was ended pages ago?
Republican says with Trump ‘impeachment needs to be on the table’ http://m.sfgate.com/nation/article/Republican-says-with-Trump-impeachment-needs-10861130.php?utm_campaign=Contact+Quiboat+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=quiboat
Based on what?
Defeating the establishment and powers that be.
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Jan 16 2017, 11:57 PM
Donald Trump says he will keep personal Twitter account https://goo.gl/Bv4h2c
Is this a constitutional crisis? Or are you attempting to fill the thread with tears after it was ended pages ago?
Republican says with Trump ‘impeachment needs to be on the table’ http://m.sfgate.com/nation/article/Republican-says-with-Trump-impeachment-needs-10861130.php?utm_campaign=Contact+Quiboat+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=quiboat
Impeachment is another liberal wet dream....To have an impeachment you must have high crimes or misdemeanors ,plus a majority in the House....Without these required ingredients, Democrats are talking smack.....Perhaps liberals should demand a recount of all votes in the country and in the electoral college.............. :lol:
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Jan 17 2017, 12:21 AM
sorry La whatever your name is.. ^^ but that One republican doesn't speak for the 60 Million who voted for Trump.. so his fantasies and wishes are pretty much moot! LMAO

notice the title eston? Republican.. not republican's..
;)


:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:





You're oblivious as per the usual:

Trump is following the authoritarian playbook @CNN http://cnn.it/2jsEEwP

"Many Americans were initially confused by Trump and his unorthodox behavior, or dismissed him as a joke. I have spent decades studying authoritarian and fascist regimes and saw in Trump a deeply familiar figure: the strongman who cultivates a bond with followers based on loyalty to him as a person rather than to a party or set of principles.

Such individuals inevitably seek to adapt the political office they inhabit to serve their needs. They are clear from the start about this intention, refusing to submit to shared customs and norms -- such as releasing tax returns -- that would mean they were submitting to the will of the political class. Anyone who believes that Trump will morph into anything resembling a traditional politician will be sorely disappointed. Authoritarians never pivot."
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Katoblue
Jan 17 2017, 12:21 AM
sorry La whatever your name is.. ^^ but that One republican doesn't speak for the 60 Million who voted for Trump.. so his fantasies and wishes are pretty much moot! LMAO

notice the title eston? Republican.. not republican's..
;)


:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:





You're oblivious as per the usual:

Trump is following the authoritarian playbook @CNN http://cnn.it/2jsEEwP

"Many Americans were initially confused by Trump and his unorthodox behavior, or dismissed him as a joke. I have spent decades studying authoritarian and fascist regimes and saw in Trump a deeply familiar figure: the strongman who cultivates a bond with followers based on loyalty to him as a person rather than to a party or set of principles.

Such individuals inevitably seek to adapt the political office they inhabit to serve their needs. They are clear from the start about this intention, refusing to submit to shared customs and norms -- such as releasing tax returns -- that would mean they were submitting to the will of the political class. Anyone who believes that Trump will morph into anything resembling a traditional politician will be sorely disappointed. Authoritarians never pivot."
CNN is fake news - nobody other then echochamber leftists who gives a feck what they print.
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Katoblue
Jan 17 2017, 12:21 AM
sorry La whatever your name is.. ^^ but that One republican doesn't speak for the 60 Million who voted for Trump.. so his fantasies and wishes are pretty much moot! LMAO

notice the title eston? Republican.. not republican's..
;)


:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:





You're oblivious as per the usual:

Trump is following the authoritarian playbook @CNN http://cnn.it/2jsEEwP

"Many Americans were initially confused by Trump and his unorthodox behavior, or dismissed him as a joke. I have spent decades studying authoritarian and fascist regimes and saw in Trump a deeply familiar figure: the strongman who cultivates a bond with followers based on loyalty to him as a person rather than to a party or set of principles.

Such individuals inevitably seek to adapt the political office they inhabit to serve their needs. They are clear from the start about this intention, refusing to submit to shared customs and norms -- such as releasing tax returns -- that would mean they were submitting to the will of the political class. Anyone who believes that Trump will morph into anything resembling a traditional politician will be sorely disappointed. Authoritarians never pivot."
CNN is fake news - nobody other then echochamber leftists who gives a feck what they print.
Is this fake news too?

Legal scholars on emoluments clause: Trump in violation unless he divests by Friday https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/gs_121616_emoluments-clause1.pdf

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Jan 17 2017, 10:44 AM
estonianman
Jan 17 2017, 10:04 AM
La Pasionaria
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Katoblue
Jan 17 2017, 12:21 AM
sorry La whatever your name is.. ^^ but that One republican doesn't speak for the 60 Million who voted for Trump.. so his fantasies and wishes are pretty much moot! LMAO

notice the title eston? Republican.. not republican's..
;)


:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:





You're oblivious as per the usual:

Trump is following the authoritarian playbook @CNN http://cnn.it/2jsEEwP

"Many Americans were initially confused by Trump and his unorthodox behavior, or dismissed him as a joke. I have spent decades studying authoritarian and fascist regimes and saw in Trump a deeply familiar figure: the strongman who cultivates a bond with followers based on loyalty to him as a person rather than to a party or set of principles.

Such individuals inevitably seek to adapt the political office they inhabit to serve their needs. They are clear from the start about this intention, refusing to submit to shared customs and norms -- such as releasing tax returns -- that would mean they were submitting to the will of the political class. Anyone who believes that Trump will morph into anything resembling a traditional politician will be sorely disappointed. Authoritarians never pivot."
CNN is fake news - nobody other then echochamber leftists who gives a feck what they print.
Is this fake news too?

Legal scholars on emoluments clause: Trump in violation unless he divests by Friday https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/gs_121616_emoluments-clause1.pdf

Brookings is entitled to their opinon, even if they are wrong.

Feel free to offer your break down on how the emoluments clause is violated.

Edited by estonianman, Jan 17 2017, 10:48 AM.
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Jan 17 2017, 10:44 AM
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Jan 17 2017, 10:04 AM
La Pasionaria
Jan 17 2017, 10:02 AM
Katoblue
Jan 17 2017, 12:21 AM
sorry La whatever your name is.. ^^ but that One republican doesn't speak for the 60 Million who voted for Trump.. so his fantasies and wishes are pretty much moot! LMAO

notice the title eston? Republican.. not republican's..
;)


:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:





You're oblivious as per the usual:

Trump is following the authoritarian playbook @CNN http://cnn.it/2jsEEwP

"Many Americans were initially confused by Trump and his unorthodox behavior, or dismissed him as a joke. I have spent decades studying authoritarian and fascist regimes and saw in Trump a deeply familiar figure: the strongman who cultivates a bond with followers based on loyalty to him as a person rather than to a party or set of principles.

Such individuals inevitably seek to adapt the political office they inhabit to serve their needs. They are clear from the start about this intention, refusing to submit to shared customs and norms -- such as releasing tax returns -- that would mean they were submitting to the will of the political class. Anyone who believes that Trump will morph into anything resembling a traditional politician will be sorely disappointed. Authoritarians never pivot."
CNN is fake news - nobody other then echochamber leftists who gives a feck what they print.
Is this fake news too?

Legal scholars on emoluments clause: Trump in violation unless he divests by Friday https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/gs_121616_emoluments-clause1.pdf

Brookings is entitled to their opinon, even if they are wrong.

Feel free to offer your break down on how the emoluments clause is violated.

Donald Trump once again tries to wave away America’s skepticism about him as a conspiracy https://goo.gl/tO23vg

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Trump adviser who said Hillary Clinton should be ‘shot for treason’ under consideration for Deputy Secretary of Veterans Administration; http://nhlabornews.tumblr.com/post/156050423433/trump-adviser-who-said-hillary-clinton-should-be
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estonianman
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La Pasionaria
Jan 16 2017, 11:57 PM
Donald Trump says he will keep personal Twitter account https://goo.gl/Bv4h2c
Is this a constitutional crisis? Or are you attempting to fill the thread with tears after it was ended pages ago?
Republican says with Trump ‘impeachment needs to be on the table’ http://m.sfgate.com/nation/article/Republican-says-with-Trump-impeachment-needs-10861130.php?utm_campaign=Contact+Quiboat+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=quiboat
Impeachment is another liberal wet dream....To have an impeachment you must have high crimes or misdemeanors ,plus a majority in the House....Without these required ingredients, Democrats are talking smack.....Perhaps liberals should demand a recount of all votes in the country and in the electoral college.............. :lol:
Putin 'feels like he's been elected president'; http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/putin-feels-like-he-s-been-elected-president-856931395576?cid=sm_tw_msnbc

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La Pasionaria
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Katoblue
Jan 17 2017, 12:21 AM
sorry La whatever your name is.. ^^ but that One republican doesn't speak for the 60 Million who voted for Trump.. so his fantasies and wishes are pretty much moot! LMAO

notice the title eston? Republican.. not republican's..
;)


:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:





You're oblivious as per the usual:

Trump is following the authoritarian playbook @CNN http://cnn.it/2jsEEwP

"Many Americans were initially confused by Trump and his unorthodox behavior, or dismissed him as a joke. I have spent decades studying authoritarian and fascist regimes and saw in Trump a deeply familiar figure: the strongman who cultivates a bond with followers based on loyalty to him as a person rather than to a party or set of principles.

Such individuals inevitably seek to adapt the political office they inhabit to serve their needs. They are clear from the start about this intention, refusing to submit to shared customs and norms -- such as releasing tax returns -- that would mean they were submitting to the will of the political class. Anyone who believes that Trump will morph into anything resembling a traditional politician will be sorely disappointed. Authoritarians never pivot."
CNN is fake news - nobody other then echochamber leftists who gives a feck what they print.
Is this fake news too?

Legal scholars on emoluments clause: Trump in violation unless he divests by Friday https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/gs_121616_emoluments-clause1.pdf

Yes that is fake news...The Queen of England has not knighted Trump and Saudi Arabian nobility has not donated millions to the Trump Family Foundation...... :oyvey
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Jan 18 2017, 05:17 PM
Trump adviser who said Hillary Clinton should be ‘shot for treason’ under consideration for Deputy Secretary of Veterans Administration; http://nhlabornews.tumblr.com/post/156050423433/trump-adviser-who-said-hillary-clinton-should-be
I believe a trial is unnecessary............ :dunno:
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estonianman
Jan 17 2017, 12:02 AM
La Pasionaria
Jan 16 2017, 11:57 PM
Donald Trump says he will keep personal Twitter account https://goo.gl/Bv4h2c
Is this a constitutional crisis? Or are you attempting to fill the thread with tears after it was ended pages ago?
Republican says with Trump ‘impeachment needs to be on the table’ http://m.sfgate.com/nation/article/Republican-says-with-Trump-impeachment-needs-10861130.php?utm_campaign=Contact+Quiboat+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=quiboat
Impeachment is another liberal wet dream....To have an impeachment you must have high crimes or misdemeanors ,plus a majority in the House....Without these required ingredients, Democrats are talking smack.....Perhaps liberals should demand a recount of all votes in the country and in the electoral college.............. :lol:
Putin 'feels like he's been elected president'; http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/putin-feels-like-he-s-been-elected-president-856931395576?cid=sm_tw_msnbc

It is not too late for you to swear allegiance to Putin....Don't miss the train............. :)
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Jan 18 2017, 05:17 PM
Trump adviser who said Hillary Clinton should be ‘shot for treason’ under consideration for Deputy Secretary of Veterans Administration; http://nhlabornews.tumblr.com/post/156050423433/trump-adviser-who-said-hillary-clinton-should-be
Holy s**t - is he running in 2024?
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Trump adviser who said Hillary Clinton should be ‘shot for treason’ under consideration for Deputy Secretary of Veterans Administration; http://nhlabornews.tumblr.com/post/156050423433/trump-adviser-who-said-hillary-clinton-should-be
Holy s**t - is he running in 2024?
Donald Trump is now violating the emoluments clause http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/1/20/1622841/-Donald-Trump-is-now-violating-the-emoluments-clause

"Immediately release Donald Trump's full tax returns, with all information needed to verify emoluments clause compliance...The moment Trump takes that oath, he will violate it. This is because Donald Trump has refused to divest himself of his business, both domestic and foreign and will receive, as a result, on January 20, 2017, emoluments from foreign sources and domestic governments, federal, state and local."
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