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| Trump's Deep Fear: "He Is Not a Legitimate President" | |
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| clone | Jan 20 2017, 08:39 PM Post #21 |
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Director @ Center for Advanced Memetic Warfare
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Man....we may have to start a "When Did Wilmy Get Lucidity" thread on the con board....Opinionated might get jealous....
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Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence. | |
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| La Pasionaria | Jan 20 2017, 08:43 PM Post #22 |
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President Trump’s first actions involve making home ownership a lot more expensive for the middle class http://dlvr.it/N98Dhg |
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| clone | Jan 20 2017, 08:45 PM Post #23 |
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Director @ Center for Advanced Memetic Warfare
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Your url shorteners are shady and not to be clicked on.... |
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Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence. | |
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| La Pasionaria | Jan 20 2017, 09:17 PM Post #24 |
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'Tiny hands, tiny crowds': Internet laughs at puny crowds at Trump's inauguration; https://gulliverswift.newsvine.com/_news/2017/01/20/36694893-tiny-hands-tiny-crowds-internet-laughs-at-puny-crowds-at-trumps-inauguration |
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| Robertr2000 | Jan 20 2017, 09:33 PM Post #25 |
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Trump's mother didin't do lesbian porn if that's what you mean. Oh, and his wife doesn't have a penis.
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| "if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses" | |
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| Robertr2000 | Jan 20 2017, 09:39 PM Post #26 |
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Bitching about the rules after you lose doesn't strengthen your position here. Besides, If Trump and Hillary would have ran for President without the Electoral College (popular vote), there is no guarantee that Hilary would have beaten Trump. Work to change the rules and try harder next time. ok? |
| "if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses" | |
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| lucash | Jan 22 2017, 09:07 PM Post #27 |
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#NeverTrump
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Right...she "won".........
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| "...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson | |
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| lucash | Jan 22 2017, 09:36 PM Post #28 |
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#NeverTrump
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1. If the states were truly independent, there would be no federal government or very little federal government (but that is a debate for another time, lol). The states/people agreed to participate in this union, with the expectation that the popular will (ie, majority) is reflected (with respect to and consideration of the political minority) through our elections and politicians both at the state and federal (and county, city, etc.) level. So, how is it a bad thing to push toward a system where the direct popular will of the people is represented on the federal/national level? Lets face it, the Electoral College was implemented back when there was a largely rural populace, and one cut off from the goings on in DC, etc. There was the expectation that these electoral college voters would be able to carry out the duties. Times have changed. Why do we still need it? 2. Again, why is it not possible to have this at a national level? Aside from the general stupidity across the US, what is wrong with direct election? 3. My friend, your point that one or two states may sway the election is kind of ironic. You do realize that this election wound up coming down to just a few states where the oompa loompa was able to swing them his way, and in turn win the EC. It's ironic. You're worried about one or two "left leaning" states deciding an election, and yet...in this very election the oompa loompa (your guy im assuming) swung the election by way of the EC, with just a few states. He wound up only needing to sway no more than around 100-150 thousand votes in key states and he wound up president. 4. Maybe he would, maybe he wouldnt have. *shrugs* Thing is, he didn't get a fair chance given the clinton machine. As for how to pay for it...funny, asking how to pay for things didn't hurt the oompa loompa. 5. Rampant electoral fraud? Really? Despite the many investigations, etc. .and lack of any real massive problems? ...okay, if it is rampant, then please...provide evidence. Or if you want, provide the evidence in a thread and we can discuss it. Welfare state? Meh, whether it is broken or not is to each their own. I agree we need more work on the system, but I've no problem with my money going to help people help themselves. I think the major thing is your and my mindset - I don't buy into the idea that people on welfare are "lazy", etc. etc. I accept the fact that you can have some bad apples in the system (as with anything), but that the majority are simply economically xxxxed and are trying to survive. I say that as having been one who had to rely on welfare for a few years due to the economic mess. |
| "...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson | |
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| lucash | Jan 22 2017, 09:39 PM Post #29 |
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#NeverTrump
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Oh so it's whining is it? Funny, I thought it was having an opinion, protesting, etc. So I guess if the Dems try to stop the oompa loompa's cluster doodle it's obstructionism now, eh? Or are you taking leaf from the oompa loompas book and chastising opinions? Anyways. I'm all for amending the constitution - but well, there needs to be support for it. Alas, I guess that requires men and women with dedication for change and cojones. Know any others that have both? |
| "...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson | |
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| dr345 | Jan 22 2017, 09:43 PM Post #30 |
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not real president |
| un jour on se souviendra de ca comme on se souvient de ca | |
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| La Pasionaria | Jan 22 2017, 10:36 PM Post #31 |
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Top Legal, Ethics Scholars To File First Major Lawsuit Against Trump On Monday https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/top-legal-ethics-scholars-to-file-first-major-lawsuit-agains?utm_term=.vp02KBGXZ … |
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| Robert Stout | Jan 22 2017, 11:21 PM Post #32 |
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Anyone can file a law suit...Those who are served hot coffee have a better chance of winning the suit.... :oyvey |
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| La Pasionaria | Jan 23 2017, 02:07 PM Post #33 |
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This sort of thing, from a conservative source, will surely drive old Trumpy crazy: WSJ: Trump looks "small and insecure" http://hill.cm/jCzYKvJ |
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| estonianman | Jan 23 2017, 02:48 PM Post #34 |
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I was referring to the abuse of redistribution in order to attract voters. Its damn easy to get people to vote for you if you promise them a monetary benefit after they are elected. In fact paying someone beforehand (bribery) to vote is illegal - whereas paying them after isn't. This breaks the voting system because some individuals become one issue voters and could care less about all the other moral hazards committed as long as they get their check on the 1st. Edited by estonianman, Jan 23 2017, 02:49 PM.
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| MEEK AND MILD | |
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| estonianman | Jan 23 2017, 02:52 PM Post #35 |
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| MEEK AND MILD | |
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| La Pasionaria | Jan 23 2017, 03:24 PM Post #36 |
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Poll: Trump’s opening weekend gets lowest approval of modern era http://politi.co/2jpF1oQ
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| Robert Stout | Jan 23 2017, 09:23 PM Post #37 |
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The Wall Street Journal writers always looked small and insecure when Trump got on his really, really big private jet...You read the work of midget clowns..........
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| Robert Stout | Jan 23 2017, 09:26 PM Post #38 |
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You can't cook an omelet without cracking a few eggs....You shall be cracked soon enough............
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| Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid | |
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| lucash | Jan 23 2017, 09:27 PM Post #39 |
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#NeverTrump
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Indeed, but the problem with your 'rage against the machine', as it were, is that all parties do it. Whether it is in the promise of the redistribution of wealth directly (welfare, tax breaks, etc.), or the adjustments by way of policy and law, of the system in place, which in turn helps said groups of people they've promised. So...it happens. I'd rather there be a system i place in case people need it. |
| "...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson | |
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| lucash | Jan 23 2017, 09:34 PM Post #40 |
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#NeverTrump
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1. Uh, actually yeah it is usually. Hence the term swing states. This last election, if i recall correctly, wound up being an exception, but generally there are a handful of states that are 'the usual suspects', and toss in a state here or there that isn't normally a swing state..and there ya go. 2. See, there we have a disagreement. You don't trust the legal system to investigate/do their job. You're assuming that every tom, richard, and harry who investigate electoral fraud is going to be biased in favor of not finding anything. Now, I'm not saying lawyers or attorneys are unbiased, look at DC, but I think you're falling into the trap of confirmation bias. Oh, and I don't trust O'Keefe. He's already shown he lies in a number of ways to suit his agenda. He's not a "truth teller", he is a propagandist - similar to Moore. |
| "...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson | |
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