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Could someone *please* explain this to me?; No other advanced democracies have voter ID laws?
Topic Started: Jan 25 2017, 06:28 PM (333 Views)
EmperorNortonII

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/us/politics/obama-final-press-conference.html

"We are the only country in the advanced world that makes it harder to vote rather than easier."

Aren't there a lot of countries that require IDs to vote? Doesn't that list include the only other countries on this continent, Mexico and Canada? Do they not count as advanced democracies? What about France and Germany? Sweden? Switzerland? REALLY?
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Obama cites 2009 article

Obama, though, was referring to a different breakdown. Asked the basis of Obama’s statement, White House spokesman Eric Schultz pointed out research on voter ID restrictions in "peer" democracies.

Specifically, a July 2012 news blog post in The Washington Post drew on an article in the summer 2009 edition of the Harvard Law & Policy Review placing Indiana’s voter ID law, which came to be before the Texas law, in "international perspective."

At the time, according to the longer article, 24 U.S. states required voters to present IDs--though only three states stipulated photo IDs--at the polls. The authors categorized U.S. "peer democracies abroad" as either requiring no identification to vote at the polls; requiring identification only when the identity of a voter is in doubt; allowing multiple forms of non-photo identification; or requiring a single or few types of photo ID but making it easy for voters to obtain that identification--in other words concluding that no country was as stringent as Indiana.

Upshot: "Not all democracies require voter identification, and among those countries that do, there is a great variation in approach," the article says


Voter Identification Laws in 15 ‘Peer Democracies’ to U.S.


PEER COUNTRIES

No ID required
Australia, Denmark, New Zealand and the United Kingdom (except Northern Ireland)

ID required only when identity in doubt
Ireland, Netherlands, Norway, Switzerland, Sweden

Multiple non-photo IDs accepted
India, Canada

Photo ID required, but easy to obtain
Spain, France, Malta, Belgium, Mexico

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2016/jun/20/barack-obama/barack-obama-austin-says-us-only-advanced-democrac/
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EmperorNortonII

I'm counting 12 countries on that list that require or can require something. How is that not "Pants on Fire," willywood?
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I dunno. I didn't say it wasn't.
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wilmywood8455
Jan 25 2017, 07:55 PM
I dunno. I didn't say it wasn't.
We were just having this discussion the other day.

What happened Mr Smug?
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Suddenly, liberals want everyone to be armed....Look for higher gun sales and right to carry even in San Francisco........... :biggrin:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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estonianman
Jan 25 2017, 10:16 PM
wilmywood8455
Jan 25 2017, 07:55 PM
I dunno. I didn't say it wasn't.
We were just having this discussion the other day.

What happened Mr Smug?


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