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Removing the illegals:Jobs for Americans
Topic Started: Jan 27 2017, 11:23 PM (1,461 Views)
Harambe4Trump
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thoughtless
Jan 28 2017, 08:41 AM
Where I live in Central Texas, just about every business has a help wanted sign by the front door, and practically all of the really tough, backbreaking labor is done by illegals.

Everybody that wants a job has one, and most employers have a difficult time filling positions. The idea of making one of the biggest problems for businesses worse, doesn't set well with most business people.
Those business people would sell out their country for a dollar. There's a word for that: treason.
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Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 09:44 AM
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Jan 28 2017, 09:31 AM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 09:27 AM
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Jan 28 2017, 09:21 AM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 09:19 AM
I prefer the country controlling its borders and if the farmer can't cut it without using illegal labor he should find a new profession
Here's a thought, for decades we had a successful work visa system, how bout we make it easy for them to come here to do those jobs without a lot of regulations, isn't that what many of my colleagues say, get government off their backs and let the free market figure it out? That's what PA is always saying.
I'd prefer they buy American made harvesting equipment thank you very much! Why are you so deadset on subsidising farmers with cheap foreign labor? Why dont you want that money to make its way into the hands of American workers?
And when the equipment breaks down, and they can't afford a new part or the diesel fuel to run it? They're what...screwed...you just indicated that an American family should fail, lose their house, their land , their livelihood rather then give a man an honest day's wages for an honest day's work just because he's not a machine or an American?

Always the big business like you that say it's so easy to just buy machines, not all can do that or even want to. I would miss sitting down to breakfast and hearing a Spanish guitar or the wives bringing omelettes, or the laugh of a good joke. The sense of family replaced by cold gears, and the smell of diesel..yeah....what an experience

But I diverge, we are concentrating to much on one field of endeavor...there are multiple occupations that are done by illegals.

I'd much rather give them a good work visa program that I can tax and bring in revenue. I'd rather they not have to hide their heads for fear of the policia or the federales.
Farmers or any other business dependent on illegal labor deserve to see their livelihood ruined; frankly, they deserve a fate equal to the Rosenbergs.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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No person outside of the United States has a “RIGHT” to come to, or live in the United States of America. Guest visitation (Visa approval) is a privilege, and emigration is entirely a structure of policy controlled by the executive branch of the U.S. through the Department of State.

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If you illegally break into a country and DON'T expect to at best be sent back you are clearly delusional....

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Jan 28 2017, 12:03 PM
No person outside of the United States has a “RIGHT” to come to, or live in the United States of America. Guest visitation (Visa approval) is a privilege, and emigration is entirely a structure of policy controlled by the executive branch of the U.S. through the Department of State.

LINK

If you illegally break into a country and DON'T expect to at best be sent back you are clearly delusional....

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And believe it or not clone, I agree with you, which is why from a business point of view it only makes sense to enhance and enlarge a worker visa program. These people want to work, and despite kato's 8 yr old study, a good portion of jobs in several menial occupations are not desired by many Americans, I firmly believe that.

Let them work, pay them, and collect tax revenue.
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Jan 28 2017, 10:55 AM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 09:44 AM
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Jan 28 2017, 09:31 AM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 09:27 AM
Right-Wing
Jan 28 2017, 09:21 AM
Here's a thought, for decades we had a successful work visa system, how bout we make it easy for them to come here to do those jobs without a lot of regulations, isn't that what many of my colleagues say, get government off their backs and let the free market figure it out? That's what PA is always saying.
I'd prefer they buy American made harvesting equipment thank you very much! Why are you so deadset on subsidising farmers with cheap foreign labor? Why dont you want that money to make its way into the hands of American workers?
And when the equipment breaks down, and they can't afford a new part or the diesel fuel to run it? They're what...screwed...you just indicated that an American family should fail, lose their house, their land , their livelihood rather then give a man an honest day's wages for an honest day's work just because he's not a machine or an American?

Always the big business like you that say it's so easy to just buy machines, not all can do that or even want to. I would miss sitting down to breakfast and hearing a Spanish guitar or the wives bringing omelettes, or the laugh of a good joke. The sense of family replaced by cold gears, and the smell of diesel..yeah....what an experience

But I diverge, we are concentrating to much on one field of endeavor...there are multiple occupations that are done by illegals.

I'd much rather give them a good work visa program that I can tax and bring in revenue. I'd rather they not have to hide their heads for fear of the policia or the federales.
Farmers or any other business dependent on illegal labor deserve to see their livelihood ruined; frankly, they deserve a fate equal to the Rosenbergs.
Death for putting a tomato on your table, a sewn shirt in your closet...yeah..nothing extreme about your position.
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Jan 28 2017, 01:41 PM
clone
Jan 28 2017, 12:03 PM
No person outside of the United States has a “RIGHT” to come to, or live in the United States of America. Guest visitation (Visa approval) is a privilege, and emigration is entirely a structure of policy controlled by the executive branch of the U.S. through the Department of State.

LINK

If you illegally break into a country and DON'T expect to at best be sent back you are clearly delusional....

Posted Image

And believe it or not clone, I agree with you, which is why from a business point of view it only makes sense to enhance and enlarge a worker visa program. These people want to work, and despite kato's 8 yr old study, a good portion of jobs in several menial occupations are not desired by many Americans, I firmly believe that.

Let them work, pay them, and collect tax revenue.
Somehow, Japan and S Korea fill those jobs without any problem.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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Jan 28 2017, 01:42 PM
Harambe4Trump
Jan 28 2017, 10:55 AM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 09:44 AM
Right-Wing
Jan 28 2017, 09:31 AM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 09:27 AM
I'd prefer they buy American made harvesting equipment thank you very much! Why are you so deadset on subsidising farmers with cheap foreign labor? Why dont you want that money to make its way into the hands of American workers?
And when the equipment breaks down, and they can't afford a new part or the diesel fuel to run it? They're what...screwed...you just indicated that an American family should fail, lose their house, their land , their livelihood rather then give a man an honest day's wages for an honest day's work just because he's not a machine or an American?

Always the big business like you that say it's so easy to just buy machines, not all can do that or even want to. I would miss sitting down to breakfast and hearing a Spanish guitar or the wives bringing omelettes, or the laugh of a good joke. The sense of family replaced by cold gears, and the smell of diesel..yeah....what an experience

But I diverge, we are concentrating to much on one field of endeavor...there are multiple occupations that are done by illegals.

I'd much rather give them a good work visa program that I can tax and bring in revenue. I'd rather they not have to hide their heads for fear of the policia or the federales.
Farmers or any other business dependent on illegal labor deserve to see their livelihood ruined; frankly, they deserve a fate equal to the Rosenbergs.
Death for putting a tomato on your table, a sewn shirt in your closet...yeah..nothing extreme about your position.
Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
#MAGA
#wallsnotwars
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Jan 28 2017, 01:44 PM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 01:42 PM
Harambe4Trump
Jan 28 2017, 10:55 AM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 09:44 AM
Right-Wing
Jan 28 2017, 09:31 AM
And when the equipment breaks down, and they can't afford a new part or the diesel fuel to run it? They're what...screwed...you just indicated that an American family should fail, lose their house, their land , their livelihood rather then give a man an honest day's wages for an honest day's work just because he's not a machine or an American?

Always the big business like you that say it's so easy to just buy machines, not all can do that or even want to. I would miss sitting down to breakfast and hearing a Spanish guitar or the wives bringing omelettes, or the laugh of a good joke. The sense of family replaced by cold gears, and the smell of diesel..yeah....what an experience

But I diverge, we are concentrating to much on one field of endeavor...there are multiple occupations that are done by illegals.

I'd much rather give them a good work visa program that I can tax and bring in revenue. I'd rather they not have to hide their heads for fear of the policia or the federales.
Farmers or any other business dependent on illegal labor deserve to see their livelihood ruined; frankly, they deserve a fate equal to the Rosenbergs.
Death for putting a tomato on your table, a sewn shirt in your closet...yeah..nothing extreme about your position.
Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.
Justice? You make it seem as if they cold blooded murderers who just stole your car instead of pulling in an 10hr shift at the Mexican restaurant washing dishes.
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Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 01:48 PM
Harambe4Trump
Jan 28 2017, 01:44 PM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 01:42 PM
Harambe4Trump
Jan 28 2017, 10:55 AM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 09:44 AM
Farmers or any other business dependent on illegal labor deserve to see their livelihood ruined; frankly, they deserve a fate equal to the Rosenbergs.
Death for putting a tomato on your table, a sewn shirt in your closet...yeah..nothing extreme about your position.
Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.
Justice? You make it seem as if they cold blooded murderers who just stole your car instead of pulling in an 10hr shift at the Mexican restaurant washing dishes.
They are murdering the American dream.
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Jan 28 2017, 01:49 PM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 01:48 PM
Harambe4Trump
Jan 28 2017, 01:44 PM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 01:42 PM
Harambe4Trump
Jan 28 2017, 10:55 AM
Death for putting a tomato on your table, a sewn shirt in your closet...yeah..nothing extreme about your position.
Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.
Justice? You make it seem as if they cold blooded murderers who just stole your car instead of pulling in an 10hr shift at the Mexican restaurant washing dishes.
They are murdering the American dream.
The American Dream is washing dishes in a restaurant or picking oranges in an orchard?
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Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 01:54 PM
Harambe4Trump
Jan 28 2017, 01:49 PM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 01:48 PM
Harambe4Trump
Jan 28 2017, 01:44 PM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 01:42 PM
Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.
Justice? You make it seem as if they cold blooded murderers who just stole your car instead of pulling in an 10hr shift at the Mexican restaurant washing dishes.
They are murdering the American dream.
The American Dream is washing dishes in a restaurant or picking oranges in an orchard?
There are robots for that
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Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 01:41 PM
clone
Jan 28 2017, 12:03 PM
No person outside of the United States has a “RIGHT” to come to, or live in the United States of America. Guest visitation (Visa approval) is a privilege, and emigration is entirely a structure of policy controlled by the executive branch of the U.S. through the Department of State.

LINK

If you illegally break into a country and DON'T expect to at best be sent back you are clearly delusional....

Posted Image

And believe it or not clone, I agree with you, which is why from a business point of view it only makes sense to enhance and enlarge a worker visa program. These people want to work, and despite kato's 8 yr old study, a good portion of jobs in several menial occupations are not desired by many Americans, I firmly believe that.

Let them work, pay them, and collect tax revenue.
"not desired by Americans"????

How bout not paying such Americans to sit on their azzes.....

I picked fruit as youngster...

Collected glass bottles to be recycled...

Shoveled snow. Mowed lawns. Washed cars.

During high school I started out as dishwasher in a bakery. Was 15. Saved enough to by my first car on my 16th birthday.

Was the salad bar guy. Bar back. Line cook and waiter.

First summer of college worked as a painters assistant in a high end body shop by day and then a line cook at night.

My second year in college is when I started my first 7 figure business....back packed through Europe during the summers of the next 4 years...

My kids have followed suit. 3 teenagers all working including manual labor and now they all had or have a business.

Having posted with you for a while pretty sure you and your kids came up the same way.

A solid work ethic....

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Jan 28 2017, 02:02 PM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 01:41 PM
clone
Jan 28 2017, 12:03 PM
No person outside of the United States has a “RIGHT” to come to, or live in the United States of America. Guest visitation (Visa approval) is a privilege, and emigration is entirely a structure of policy controlled by the executive branch of the U.S. through the Department of State.

LINK

If you illegally break into a country and DON'T expect to at best be sent back you are clearly delusional....

Posted Image

And believe it or not clone, I agree with you, which is why from a business point of view it only makes sense to enhance and enlarge a worker visa program. These people want to work, and despite kato's 8 yr old study, a good portion of jobs in several menial occupations are not desired by many Americans, I firmly believe that.

Let them work, pay them, and collect tax revenue.
"not desired by Americans"????

How bout not paying such Americans to sit on their azzes.....

I picked fruit as youngster...

Collected glass bottles to be recycled...

Shoveled snow. Mowed lawns. Washed cars.

During high school I started out as dishwasher in a bakery. Was 15. Saved enough to by my first car on my 16th birthday.

Was the salad bar guy. Bar back. Line cook and waiter.

First summer of college worked as a painters assistant in a high end body shop by day and then a line cook at night.

My second year in college is when I started my first 7 figure business....back packed through Europe during the summers of the next 4 years...

My kids have followed suit. 3 teenagers all working including manual labor and now they all had or have a business.

Having posted with you for a while pretty sure you and your kids came up the same way.

A solid work ethic....

Yes, but to be fair, our generation was probably the last to have such a work ethic, because technology wasn't so interwoven in our lives, how many kids do a paper route now when you can download the most current edition of your local paper?

My grandfather was the first "American" citizen in our family line, given citizenship thru the Snyder Act, before that there was a hodge lodge of laws dealing with the tribes. He continued the farm that has been in our family for over 2 centuries, and while the children of each generation have left for other pastures, we atypically find our way back here. I made my sons work each summer at the harvest to remind them of where they came from. That the food they ate came to them thru the sweat of someone else.

Would I be ok with Tom, Dick, and Harry instead of Hector, Jose, and Manuel showing up each harvest..sure..it just doesn't happen in our area. That's just in the agribusines, as we pointed out, retail, food industry, service, and construction. I want them working, but I want it legal, and I want to tax it. I"m for the free market figuring the rest out.
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Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 02:12 PM
clone
Jan 28 2017, 02:02 PM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 01:41 PM
clone
Jan 28 2017, 12:03 PM
No person outside of the United States has a “RIGHT” to come to, or live in the United States of America. Guest visitation (Visa approval) is a privilege, and emigration is entirely a structure of policy controlled by the executive branch of the U.S. through the Department of State.

LINK

If you illegally break into a country and DON'T expect to at best be sent back you are clearly delusional....

Posted Image

And believe it or not clone, I agree with you, which is why from a business point of view it only makes sense to enhance and enlarge a worker visa program. These people want to work, and despite kato's 8 yr old study, a good portion of jobs in several menial occupations are not desired by many Americans, I firmly believe that.

Let them work, pay them, and collect tax revenue.
"not desired by Americans"????

How bout not paying such Americans to sit on their azzes.....

I picked fruit as youngster...

Collected glass bottles to be recycled...

Shoveled snow. Mowed lawns. Washed cars.

During high school I started out as dishwasher in a bakery. Was 15. Saved enough to by my first car on my 16th birthday.

Was the salad bar guy. Bar back. Line cook and waiter.

First summer of college worked as a painters assistant in a high end body shop by day and then a line cook at night.

My second year in college is when I started my first 7 figure business....back packed through Europe during the summers of the next 4 years...

My kids have followed suit. 3 teenagers all working including manual labor and now they all had or have a business.

Having posted with you for a while pretty sure you and your kids came up the same way.

A solid work ethic....

Yes, but to be fair, our generation was probably the last to have such a work ethic, because technology wasn't so interwoven in our lives, how many kids do a paper route now when you can download the most current edition of your local paper?

My grandfather was the first "American" citizen in our family line, given citizenship thru the Snyder Act, before that there was a hodge lodge of laws dealing with the tribes. He continued the farm that has been in our family for over 2 centuries, and while the children of each generation have left for other pastures, we atypically find our way back here. I made my sons work each summer at the harvest to remind them of where they came from. That the food they ate came to them thru the sweat of someone else.

Would I be ok with Tom, Dick, and Harry instead of Hector, Jose, and Manuel showing up each harvest..sure..it just doesn't happen in our area. That's just in the agribusines, as we pointed out, retail, food industry, service, and construction. I want them working, but I want it legal, and I want to tax it. I"m for the free market figuring the rest out.
I will go there when we stop paying able bodied people to sit on their azzes....
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Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 01:41 PM
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Jan 28 2017, 12:03 PM
No person outside of the United States has a “RIGHT” to come to, or live in the United States of America. Guest visitation (Visa approval) is a privilege, and emigration is entirely a structure of policy controlled by the executive branch of the U.S. through the Department of State.

LINK

If you illegally break into a country and DON'T expect to at best be sent back you are clearly delusional....

Posted Image

And believe it or not clone, I agree with you, which is why from a business point of view it only makes sense to enhance and enlarge a worker visa program. These people want to work, and despite kato's 8 yr old study, a good portion of jobs in several menial occupations are not desired by many Americans, I firmly believe that.

Let them work, pay them, and collect tax revenue.
No. they don't need to deflate the job market nor do they need to flood the public schools
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Jan 28 2017, 02:22 PM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 01:41 PM
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Jan 28 2017, 12:03 PM
No person outside of the United States has a “RIGHT” to come to, or live in the United States of America. Guest visitation (Visa approval) is a privilege, and emigration is entirely a structure of policy controlled by the executive branch of the U.S. through the Department of State.

LINK

If you illegally break into a country and DON'T expect to at best be sent back you are clearly delusional....

Posted Image

And believe it or not clone, I agree with you, which is why from a business point of view it only makes sense to enhance and enlarge a worker visa program. These people want to work, and despite kato's 8 yr old study, a good portion of jobs in several menial occupations are not desired by many Americans, I firmly believe that.

Let them work, pay them, and collect tax revenue.
No. they don't need to deflate the job market nor do they need to flood the public schools
Deflating the market of the local farrm, restaurant, and sweatshop? As for the schools..might be another Rembrandt who knows.
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Jan 28 2017, 02:54 PM
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Jan 28 2017, 02:22 PM
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Jan 28 2017, 01:41 PM
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Jan 28 2017, 12:03 PM
No person outside of the United States has a “RIGHT” to come to, or live in the United States of America. Guest visitation (Visa approval) is a privilege, and emigration is entirely a structure of policy controlled by the executive branch of the U.S. through the Department of State.

LINK

If you illegally break into a country and DON'T expect to at best be sent back you are clearly delusional....

Posted Image

And believe it or not clone, I agree with you, which is why from a business point of view it only makes sense to enhance and enlarge a worker visa program. These people want to work, and despite kato's 8 yr old study, a good portion of jobs in several menial occupations are not desired by many Americans, I firmly believe that.

Let them work, pay them, and collect tax revenue.
No. they don't need to deflate the job market nor do they need to flood the public schools
Deflating the market of the local farrm, restaurant, and sweatshop? As for the schools..might be another Rembrandt who knows.
The presence of this abundant cheap labor prevents these industries from investing in labor saving technologies. And no, I don't want their children here ruining the local public schools.
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California was once a reliably Republican state. What happened?

People like Tsalgai and thoughtless put the bottom line over their progeny's future and imported millions of socialists. That California dream of The Beach Boys is dead and now they want to ruin the whole country to shave $0.50 off a bag of oranges.
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In 1960, Los Angeles was a middle class utopia, the most Anglo Saxon major city in the nation. That paradise was ruined because someone wanted to pay a little less for an orange.
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Jan 28 2017, 03:12 PM
In 1960, Los Angeles was a middle class utopia, the most Anglo Saxon major city in the nation. That paradise was ruined because someone wanted to pay a little less for an orange.
This was the California which gave us Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. Reagan decided we needed more "workers" and granted amnesty in 1986. Republicans will never win that state again because of the thought process of tsalga1 and thoughtless.
Edited by Harambe4Trump, Jan 28 2017, 03:17 PM.
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