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Removing the illegals:Jobs for Americans
Topic Started: Jan 27 2017, 11:23 PM (1,458 Views)
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Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 09:08 PM
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Jan 28 2017, 08:56 PM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 07:56 PM
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Jan 28 2017, 07:49 PM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 07:40 PM
Buy some American made machinery or go out of business. The choice is yours...
Or, I get my work visa program, the harvest get done, I don't have to smell diesel fuel every morning and the wives of my family's farm still put out great breakfasts..why buy machinery we don't need, we're not essential to the job and would not be used year round? Rather a bunch of men and women who become family over a few months during the harvest and planting seasons.

And yes the term "lazy Americans" applies, the wages are good
if your wages were good you would have American workers...that's the whole f@cking point. I hope Trump cancels the seasonal worker program and forces exploiters like you to begin supporting your fellow Americans or go out of business...
You don't get it, the fuc*ing point is that even with good wages we don't get Americans. Then the sick desire to see Americans lose their livelihood simply because we don't pay out of the norm wages for farmwork...Now, if you want to go after someone, there are sweatshops in the garment districts of any major urban area that pay substandard wages whose only benefit is putting out that shirt, sweater, or tennis shoe out to you cheaper. I suggest you go after them.
Oh I get it alright...you need to buy some new equipment or go out of business.
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Jan 28 2017, 09:10 PM
So we come back full circle to my question, where does this naive belief come from that all things being equal that if we just got rid of the illegals, then we'd have Americans flocking to these jobs in food industry, textile, service, and agribusines
I've already told you...you're just refusing to accept it. No matter, Trump will help you see the light very soon...
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Jan 28 2017, 09:11 PM
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Jan 28 2017, 07:13 PM
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Jan 28 2017, 06:09 PM
Just make them legal citizens, then you'll fill all those jobs with American citizens
That's the Democratic method to win elections
What banana boat did your granny float in on?
Were Colonial, Founding Stock. The blood of the revolutionaries is in our veins, not immigrants.
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Jan 28 2017, 09:34 PM
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Jan 28 2017, 09:10 PM
So we come back full circle to my question, where does this naive belief come from that all things being equal that if we just got rid of the illegals, then we'd have Americans flocking to these jobs in food industry, textile, service, and agribusines
I've already told you...you're just refusing to accept it. No matter, Trump will help you see the light very soon...
No, you threw up an opinion that "well, they just would" that is where your belief comes from. And if they don't flock to the job, it's either we pay for machinery we can't afford or don't want,or go out of business, why it couldn't possibly be that Americans are to lazy to take the jobs.

Trump is bout the business..he's free market, your wall will not get built, and he'll come off as a good guy by coming up with a guest worker visa program that puts him in the good graces of the Mexicans and Latin America as a whole.
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Jan 28 2017, 09:43 PM
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Jan 28 2017, 09:34 PM
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Jan 28 2017, 09:10 PM
So we come back full circle to my question, where does this naive belief come from that all things being equal that if we just got rid of the illegals, then we'd have Americans flocking to these jobs in food industry, textile, service, and agribusines
I've already told you...you're just refusing to accept it. No matter, Trump will help you see the light very soon...
No, you threw up an opinion that "well, they just would" that is where your belief comes from. And if they don't flock to the job, it's either we pay for machinery we can't afford or don't want,or go out of business, why it couldn't possibly be that Americans are to lazy to take the jobs.

Trump is bout the business..he's free market, your wall will not get built, and he'll come off as a good guy by coming up with a guest worker visa program that puts him in the good graces of the Mexicans and Latin America as a whole.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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Jan 28 2017, 07:13 PM
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Jan 28 2017, 06:09 PM
Just make them legal citizens, then you'll fill all those jobs with American citizens
That's the Democratic method to win elections
What banana boat did your granny float in on?
Were Colonial, Founding Stock. The blood of the revolutionaries is in our veins, not immigrants.
You're saying they didn't emigrate here??..lol..oh, and you didn't "found anything" you conquered somewhere that was already founded and explored by the locals.
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Jan 28 2017, 09:48 PM
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Jan 28 2017, 09:43 PM
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Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 09:10 PM
So we come back full circle to my question, where does this naive belief come from that all things being equal that if we just got rid of the illegals, then we'd have Americans flocking to these jobs in food industry, textile, service, and agribusines
I've already told you...you're just refusing to accept it. No matter, Trump will help you see the light very soon...
No, you threw up an opinion that "well, they just would" that is where your belief comes from. And if they don't flock to the job, it's either we pay for machinery we can't afford or don't want,or go out of business, why it couldn't possibly be that Americans are to lazy to take the jobs.

Trump is bout the business..he's free market, your wall will not get built, and he'll come off as a good guy by coming up with a guest worker visa program that puts him in the good graces of the Mexicans and Latin America as a whole.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Yes, it is funny that you've been lead round the nose simply because a politician told you what you wanted to hear in order to get elected.
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Jan 28 2017, 09:38 PM
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Attaburnsinhell
Jan 28 2017, 06:09 PM
Just make them legal citizens, then you'll fill all those jobs with American citizens
That's the Democratic method to win elections
What banana boat did your granny float in on?
Were Colonial, Founding Stock. The blood of the revolutionaries is in our veins, not immigrants.
Immigrants
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Jan 28 2017, 09:34 PM
Tsalagi
Jan 28 2017, 09:10 PM
So we come back full circle to my question, where does this naive belief come from that all things being equal that if we just got rid of the illegals, then we'd have Americans flocking to these jobs in food industry, textile, service, and agribusines
I've already told you...you're just refusing to accept it. No matter, Trump will help you see the light very soon...
No, you threw up an opinion that "well, they just would" that is where your belief comes from. And if they don't flock to the job, it's either we pay for machinery we can't afford or don't want,or go out of business, why it couldn't possibly be that Americans are to lazy to take the jobs.

Trump is bout the business..he's free market, your wall will not get built, and he'll come off as a good guy by coming up with a guest worker visa program that puts him in the good graces of the Mexicans and Latin America as a whole.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Yes, it is funny that you've been lead round the nose simply because a politician told you what you wanted to hear in order to get elected.
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Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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Attaburnsinhell
Jan 28 2017, 06:09 PM
Just make them legal citizens, then you'll fill all those jobs with American citizens
That's the Democratic method to win elections
What banana boat did your granny float in on?
Were Colonial, Founding Stock. The blood of the revolutionaries is in our veins, not immigrants.
Immigrants
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What banana boat did your granny float in on?
Were Colonial, Founding Stock. The blood of the revolutionaries is in our veins, not immigrants.
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Thank you for confirming my ancestors were not immigrants.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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Were Colonial, Founding Stock. The blood of the revolutionaries is in our veins, not immigrants.
Immigrants
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Thank you for confirming my ancestors were not immigrants.
No, you were immigrants all right, you emigrated from England to the New World, to a place you thought empty, you never expected the vast amount of people's that were already here, but once you did find out, you just didn't stay in your land you colonized, you kept pushing out into the local tribes lands, what you couldn't buy, or stole, you outright conquered and took.

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T should ask for a courtesy close.
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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Jan 28 2017, 10:42 PM
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Immigrants
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Thank you for confirming my ancestors were not immigrants.
No, you were immigrants all right, you emigrated from England to the New World, to a place you thought empty, you never expected the vast amount of people's that were already here, but once you did find out, you just didn't stay in your land you colonized, you kept pushing out into the local tribes lands, what you couldn't buy, or stole, you outright conquered and took.

It's too late for takebacks.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
#MAGA
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Jan 28 2017, 11:38 PM
T should ask for a courtesy close.
Why, I'm still waiting on you to have the courage to actually answer the question, at least clone and right-wing gave it a shot, both you and H4T have failed miserably to do so.
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Jan 28 2017, 11:50 PM
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Jan 28 2017, 11:38 PM
T should ask for a courtesy close.
Why, I'm still waiting on you to have the courage to actually answer the question, at least clone and right-wing gave it a shot, both you and H4T have failed miserably to do so.
You don't like my answer, that's all.
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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Jan 28 2017, 11:54 PM
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T should ask for a courtesy close.
Why, I'm still waiting on you to have the courage to actually answer the question, at least clone and right-wing gave it a shot, both you and H4T have failed miserably to do so.
You don't like my answer, that's all.
You answered my question with a question, if that isn't high school, I don't know what would be. Man up, and answer my question or be just the little boy who couldn't.
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I told you already. There is no empirical study or non-bias study saying Americans would not do the job illegal immigrants are currently doing. You are just waiting to acknowledge that you are correct when you can't even back up your assertion.
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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Jan 28 2017, 10:52 AM
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Jan 28 2017, 08:17 AM
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Jan 28 2017, 01:32 AM
Let them buy American made machinery to harvest their crops...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-20/robot-crop-pickers-limit-loss-of-u-s-farm-workers-to-trump-wall

So manufacturing and construction jobs back to Americans...any other silly questions?
You really don't have the first clue how much it costs to run an agribusiness do you, if you did, the fantasy of "Well, just buy machines to do it" would fall rather flat. Sometimes for many farmers, the profit margin is so slim, you'd be doing well to pay the taxes, the seed, diesel fuel, and keep enough to go on til the next harvest.
It would be preferable for these agribusinesses to fail and have their farms repossessed by the bank than to bring illegal aliens into the country.
Agriculture only buys expensive machinery when brown machinery with a hoe can't do it cheaper................ :shakeshead:
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Jan 28 2017, 11:58 PM
I told you already. There is no empirical study or non-bias study saying Americans would not do the job illegal immigrants are currently doing. You are just waiting to acknowledge that you are correct when you can't even back up your assertion.
You're right in that there are no empirical study, but the illegals wouldn't be here to take jobs if Americans picked them up..my evidence is purely anecdotal on direct personal experience. But based on pure faith you're saying they would flock to these jobs if the illegals were gone.
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