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48% percent support the refugee ban, 42% oppose.
Topic Started: Jan 30 2017, 07:16 AM (877 Views)
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Poll: Nearly Half of America Voters Support Trump's Immigration Order

48% is enough to win an election in today's climate; hell, it's a landslide!

I am solid in the "FOR" column

just until we can figure out who is wanting to chop off heads and blow shit up and who isn't

maybe even weed out a few rapists as well :dunno:

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Yes, from 3 weeks ago, before anyone knew what a fustercluck this order would create due to the amateurism running the executive branch. A narcissistic egomaniac supported by a racist prick (Bannon) and a toady (Priebus). I'd wager the results today, after the order was issued and the non-thought out nature of it was exposed, would be reversed at a minimum.

The clown car is now parked at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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Jan 30 2017, 07:24 AM
Yes, from 3 weeks ago, before anyone knew what a fustercluck this order would create due to the amateurism running the executive branch. A narcissistic egomaniac supported by a racist prick (Bannon) and a toady (Priebus). I'd wager the results today, after the order was issued and the non-thought out nature of it was exposed, would be reversed at a minimum.

The clown car is now parked at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Contrary to your analysis, after the American people watched the silly demonstrations at the airports by SJWs, 75% of Americans probably support the ban.....Liberals should study the phenomena of "unintentional consequences"....As an example, the media attacks on Trump helped him get elected.................. :cheers:
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The "Clown car" left Jan 20

Clue: Obama's appeasement didn't work


Friendly Reminder: Obama Selected The List Of Muslim Countries in Trump’s Executive Order

As the Left and some Republicans lose their minds over President Donald J. Trump’s executive order on immigration, let’s not forget that the list of concerned countries that the Trump administration outlined in the order is based on the one signed into law by the former Obama administration. So, it looks like the Obama White House set the groundwork (viaMic News):

According to the draft copy of Trump's executive order, the countries whose citizens are barred entirely from entering the United States is based on a bill that Obama signed into law in December 2015.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/01/29/news-bulletin-the-list-of-muslim-nations-in-trumps-socalled-muslim-ban-are-ones-obama-choose-n2278021
Edited by Alt Right PEPE, Jan 30 2017, 09:30 AM.
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The people opposed are geographically misallocated. The rumor is that Bannon will have Trump egg on the protesters and then call in the national guard as a show of power; thus creating a refugee crisis of progressives fleeing to Canada.
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Thanks for the advice Obama. We have a president with a backbone who will put your plan in motion.
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The ban was poorly managed and ill conceived - just like most things with a Trump label on them. If he'd simply said he wanted to stop issuing new green cards for a given period to study the situation, that'd be more reasonable. Instead, he put an instant and chaotic freeze on all non-citizen travel which was implemented so quickly even the various elements of government tasked with carrying it out didn't appear to understand what it included. Worse, you actually had people with perfectly valid green cards and all their paperwork in order on flights when the directive came down so you end up with folks who have followed all the rules and end up detained or deported. Meanwhile, the nations impacted don't have a single American terrorist death to their name. The whole thing is Trump's usual comedy routine.
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Jan 30 2017, 11:25 AM
The ban was poorly managed and ill conceived - just like most things with a Trump label on them. If he'd simply said he wanted to stop issuing new green cards for a given period to study the situation, that'd be more reasonable. Instead, he put an instant and chaotic freeze on all non-citizen travel which was implemented so quickly even the various elements of government tasked with carrying it out didn't appear to understand what it included. Worse, you actually had people with perfectly valid green cards and all their paperwork in order on flights when the directive came down so you end up with folks who have followed all the rules and end up detained or deported. Meanwhile, the nations impacted don't have a single American terrorist death to their name. The whole thing is Trump's usual comedy routine.
There certainly should have been an exception for people actively traveling prior to the ban being signed. With that said, the solution is fairly simple, stop those with valid greed cards and do a quick verification on all of their particulars. If they pass then you make sure they let you know where they are going to be (with permanent residents this should be simple) and then allow them in while you finish using the new vetting process on them.

If anyone has legal documentation but maybe is suspect because they are a military aged male or have traveled to questionable areas then those people you either detain them or allow them in with but require them to wear a location monitor while their status is verified under the new system.

Certainly this should have been set up before the ban went into place. When he signed the order I honestly did not expect that it would go into immediate effect. The thing is, the problem should be over now. At this point, anyone who was actively traveling to the USA prior to this action is already here. Do not issue any new travel visas until you have the new systems in place.
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Jan 30 2017, 11:35 AM
Two a.m.
Jan 30 2017, 11:25 AM
The ban was poorly managed and ill conceived - just like most things with a Trump label on them. If he'd simply said he wanted to stop issuing new green cards for a given period to study the situation, that'd be more reasonable. Instead, he put an instant and chaotic freeze on all non-citizen travel which was implemented so quickly even the various elements of government tasked with carrying it out didn't appear to understand what it included. Worse, you actually had people with perfectly valid green cards and all their paperwork in order on flights when the directive came down so you end up with folks who have followed all the rules and end up detained or deported. Meanwhile, the nations impacted don't have a single American terrorist death to their name. The whole thing is Trump's usual comedy routine.
There certainly should have been an exception for people actively traveling prior to the ban being signed. With that said, the solution is fairly simple, stop those with valid greed cards and do a quick verification on all of their particulars. If they pass then you make sure they let you know where they are going to be (with permanent residents this should be simple) and then allow them in while you finish using the new vetting process on them.

If anyone has legal documentation but maybe is suspect because they are a military aged male or have traveled to questionable areas then those people you either detain them or allow them in with but require them to wear a location monitor while their status is verified under the new system.

Certainly this should have been set up before the ban went into place. When he signed the order I honestly did not expect that it would go into immediate effect. The thing is, the problem should be over now. At this point, anyone who was actively traveling to the USA prior to this action is already here. Do not issue any new travel visas until you have the new systems in place.

I can't say I'm real comfortable with the concept of locking tracking bracelets on a class of people merely because of their age, nationality and gender. If they've gone somewhere suspicious or we have other reason to suspect them, then they should be questioned or investigated. But tracking devices are for people who have committed crimes, not people of a certain ethnicity. That's a bit Big Brothery in my book.

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It's amateur hour in the West Wing.
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So now suddenly polls are reliable again?
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There are obvious reasons to enact extreme caution when allowing people from know terrorists countries to enter the country. I can't think of a single benefit to me?

Help me out my super intelligent liberal friends, tell me how I am going to benefit?
"No. No he won't. We'll stop it."
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Jan 30 2017, 12:38 PM
There are obvious reasons to enact extreme caution when allowing people from know terrorists countries to enter the country. I can't think of a single benefit to me?

Help me out my super intelligent liberal friends, tell me how I am going to benefit?
It's always all about you, isn't it PA?
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Jan 30 2017, 12:40 PM
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Jan 30 2017, 12:38 PM
There are obvious reasons to enact extreme caution when allowing people from know terrorists countries to enter the country. I can't think of a single benefit to me?

Help me out my super intelligent liberal friends, tell me how I am going to benefit?
It's always all about you, isn't it PA?
Yes it is all about me. I act in my best interest and vote in my best interest, just like "special" voters in your party. That aside tell me the benefits to importing people from known terrorist countries.

Give me the top three reason...........
Edited by PATruth, Jan 30 2017, 12:48 PM.
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Jan 30 2017, 11:47 AM
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Jan 30 2017, 11:35 AM
Two a.m.
Jan 30 2017, 11:25 AM
The ban was poorly managed and ill conceived - just like most things with a Trump label on them. If he'd simply said he wanted to stop issuing new green cards for a given period to study the situation, that'd be more reasonable. Instead, he put an instant and chaotic freeze on all non-citizen travel which was implemented so quickly even the various elements of government tasked with carrying it out didn't appear to understand what it included. Worse, you actually had people with perfectly valid green cards and all their paperwork in order on flights when the directive came down so you end up with folks who have followed all the rules and end up detained or deported. Meanwhile, the nations impacted don't have a single American terrorist death to their name. The whole thing is Trump's usual comedy routine.
There certainly should have been an exception for people actively traveling prior to the ban being signed. With that said, the solution is fairly simple, stop those with valid greed cards and do a quick verification on all of their particulars. If they pass then you make sure they let you know where they are going to be (with permanent residents this should be simple) and then allow them in while you finish using the new vetting process on them.

If anyone has legal documentation but maybe is suspect because they are a military aged male or have traveled to questionable areas then those people you either detain them or allow them in with but require them to wear a location monitor while their status is verified under the new system.

Certainly this should have been set up before the ban went into place. When he signed the order I honestly did not expect that it would go into immediate effect. The thing is, the problem should be over now. At this point, anyone who was actively traveling to the USA prior to this action is already here. Do not issue any new travel visas until you have the new systems in place.

I can't say I'm real comfortable with the concept of locking tracking bracelets on a class of people merely because of their age, nationality and gender. If they've gone somewhere suspicious or we have other reason to suspect them, then they should be questioned or investigated. But tracking devices are for people who have committed crimes, not people of a certain ethnicity. That's a bit Big Brothery in my book.

The other option is send them back to whence they came until the vetting process is over.

We actually have such a huge problem with people overstaying student and other temporary visas that I am actually not against using a subcutaneous tracking device as a requirement for those folks to enter the country. Now that really is big brother but those folks really are a problem.
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Jan 30 2017, 11:51 AM
It's amateur hour in the West Wing.
Just think if he spent a billion dollars to design a website that would allow people to access health insurance... and it took 5 years... and didn't work... then I'd bet you'd be really pissed.
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Jan 30 2017, 12:57 PM
wilmywood8455
Jan 30 2017, 11:51 AM
It's amateur hour in the West Wing.
Just think if he spent a billion dollars to design a website that would allow people to access health insurance... and it took 5 years... and didn't work... then I'd bet you'd be really pissed.
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Jan 30 2017, 12:57 PM
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It's amateur hour in the West Wing.
Just think if he spent a billion dollars to design a website that would allow people to access health insurance... and it took 5 years... and didn't work... then I'd bet you'd be really pissed.
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Jan 30 2017, 12:40 PM
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There are obvious reasons to enact extreme caution when allowing people from know terrorists countries to enter the country. I can't think of a single benefit to me?

Help me out my super intelligent liberal friends, tell me how I am going to benefit?
It's always all about you, isn't it PA?
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