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| Was Bill Clinton a Nazi?; The most anit-immigrant president in history? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 30 2017, 12:30 PM (496 Views) | |
| PATruth | Jan 30 2017, 12:30 PM Post #1 |
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President Clinton will continue to implement his comprehensive strategy to reduce illegal immigration and foster legal immigration and naturalization by: * Continuing to increase border personnel and technology to curtail illegal crossings and smuggling. * Vigorously enforcing worksite laws against employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens. * Ensuring that American jobs are made available for legal workers. * Testing effective, nondiscriminatory means of verifying the employment authorization of new employees. * Reforming and streamlining deportation procedures and seeking enhanced exclusion authority. * Increasing deportation levels 25% this year and another 50% next year. * Requiring families to take financial responsibility for immigrants they sponsor. Deploying more Border Patrol agents than any previous Administration. The Administration has increased the number of Border Patrol agents at the southwest border by 40% since 1993. The Clinton Administration is deploying an additional 1,000 agents and over 550 inspectors at the southwest border. We are also strengthening anti-smuggling efforts to reduce the criminal transport and exploitation of illegal aliens. Strengthening enforcement of sanctions against employers that hire illegal immigrants. President Clinton also issued an Executive Order to keep federal contracts from going to businesses that knowingly hire illegal workers. Removing a record 51,600 criminal and other illegal aliens from this country in 1995 alone. Reimbursing states for a share of the costs of incarcerating criminal aliens and assisting with education and medical care costs. The Clinton Administration is the first Administration to implement a comprehensive strategy from the border to the workplace to control illegal immigration and reduce the cost of illegal immigration to the states. Ole Willy was/is a liberal hero yet Trump is portrayed as a Nazi? http://www.4president.us/issues/clinton1996/clinton1996immigration.htm |
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"No. No he won't. We'll stop it." | |
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| clone | Jan 30 2017, 01:54 PM Post #2 |
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Another thread libs will ignore.... from the 1995 SOTU speech.... (excerpt) All Americans, not only in the states most heavily affected, but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. That’s why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens. In the budget I will present to you we will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes, to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace as recommended by the commission headed by former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan. We are a nation of immigrants. But we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it. LINK |
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Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence. | |
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| philly rabbit | Jan 30 2017, 04:07 PM Post #3 |
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This is an excellent point. |
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| dr345 | Jan 30 2017, 04:44 PM Post #4 |
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No, NAZIS are right wing, like Trump and his followers |
| un jour on se souviendra de ca comme on se souvient de ca | |
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| PATruth | Jan 30 2017, 04:48 PM Post #5 |
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NAZI: stood National Socialist German Workers' Party. Socialist are on the left for the really politically ignorant. WWII, it's what big government can accomplish. Edited by PATruth, Jan 30 2017, 04:49 PM.
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| CautionaryTales | Jan 30 2017, 05:01 PM Post #6 |
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Trump is the one I'd be worrying about if I were you. |
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Have you paid your internet taxes? | |
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| Coast2coast | Jan 30 2017, 05:05 PM Post #7 |
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Get it together. This is a Nazi![]() Don't soften it. Don't use it for cheap politics. |
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| dr345 | Jan 30 2017, 05:05 PM Post #8 |
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Was Nazism or "National Socialism" really socialist? Now, what about Hitler's Germany? You certainly did not find state ownership of the forces of production. Those remained in private hands (including foreign corporations like Ford, GM, and IBM). Far from close identification with the labor movement, you found harsh repression of labor unions. Social welfare provision did not advance markedly beyond that which dated back to Bismarckian Germany. And while there was state regulation of capitalism, it was the kind of wartime mobilization of capital that is found in all sorts of regimes. Too, one must remember that the first inmates of the first concentration camp, Dachau, were members of Germany's leading socialist parties, the SPD and the KPD. In sum, there is no good reason to regard the NSDAP's use of the terms"socialist" or "worker's party", or the anti-capitalist tone of some of the party's pronouncements, as anything other than cynically propagandistic. If it doesn't walk like a duck, quack like a duck, swim like a duck, or fly like a duck, then calling it a duck doesn't make it a duck. https://www.quora.com/Was-Nazism-or-National-Socialism-really-socialist |
| un jour on se souviendra de ca comme on se souvient de ca | |
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| dr345 | Jan 30 2017, 05:07 PM Post #9 |
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NAZIs didn't begin like that...that is what they became when no one stood up. |
| un jour on se souviendra de ca comme on se souvient de ca | |
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| PATruth | Jan 30 2017, 05:11 PM Post #10 |
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I'm not really worried about a tax cut, besides, I'm here legally. So far I am EXTREMELY impressed by Trump's ability to get his campaign promises enacted. Obama's failed legacy will all but be erased in a couple months. Soon I'll be safer and have more money in my pocket! That is Hopey Changey!! |
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| Coast2coast | Jan 30 2017, 05:22 PM Post #11 |
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Which is why we should always be vigilant and do exactly what we are doing today in the face of this irresponsible administration. But part of that compact with the past includes never diluting that which we must be vigilant for. |
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| PATruth | Jan 30 2017, 06:08 PM Post #12 |
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WE need to be vigilant against those that think they own our paycheck, want to control our healthcare, take away education choice, take away retirement choices, take away property rights and regulate every product and service we buy. Yes, there are some very dangerous people in this country. Why do we call then liberals? |
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| BuckFan | Jan 30 2017, 06:21 PM Post #13 |
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There are some in my party who do think Clinton was a "nazi" or at least a Rightie. There are some who think Obama was too far Right also. But to get into the discussion, Democrats are not "open borders" as some here keep alleging. They are also not against deportations and they are not against employer sanctions. Here is where we differ: 1) Intelligent border controls. Trump's original claim and one he keeps switching to is a "big, beautiful wall" which is a waste of money and a distraction. Democrats are for and have supported the appropriate technology at the appropriate location to control the border as needed. On his lucid days, Trump is for this and on his crazy days he falls back to his "wall". Plus it is a distraction from the real problem. Most illegals come in through ports (airports mostly) not overland through the desert. 2) Intelligent deportations, focused on criminals. This is what Obama's policy was, focus on finding and deporting or locking up the felony, dangerous criminals. Trump is saying the same thing but in his Master Illusionist mode is claiming it is something different. It isn't. 3) Legalizing those that remain so they can fend for themselves by getting a job, paying taxes and taking care of themselves. We are not going to deport 11 million illegals tomorrow. It will take time and in reality never happen. So in the meantime, let them register and get a driver's license so they can get a job, get to that job and fend for themselves. Trump is coming around to this as he learns more. 4) Legalize those that have no other country. It is immoral to send someone, even an adult, to a country that they have never known, do not speak the language, and have no support or family in. 5) Don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Economically a strong Mexico has reduced illegal immigration. Working to make an economically strong S. America will do the same and make those countries safer. Destroying the economies of those other countries will only increase the pressure on people to come here. We also need to recognize the economic benefits (and costs) of a strong migrant and entry-level workforce in the U.S. |
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| BuckFan | Jan 30 2017, 06:24 PM Post #14 |
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That's funny, it is the Right that is pushing Eminent Domain to provide pipelines for private corporations. It is the Right who is proposing to strip States from their ability to regulate insurance in their borders. It is the Right who wants to privatize education and allow education only for those who can afford it. |
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| CautionaryTales | Jan 30 2017, 06:37 PM Post #15 |
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And yet you'll still be you... Sad |
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Have you paid your internet taxes? | |
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| PATruth | Jan 30 2017, 06:47 PM Post #16 |
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I'll be me skiing in Aspen, staying slope side in about 4 weeks, then I'll be me traveling and golfing in Ireland in April. Nothing sad about being me. You on the other hand appear to have gone over to the dark side. You sound miserable, cheer up. |
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| clone | Jan 30 2017, 06:50 PM Post #17 |
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Director @ Center for Advanced Memetic Warfare
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They are pretty easy to identify though....the do like their uniforms..... ![]() and ![]() |
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Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence. | |
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| Robert Stout | Jan 30 2017, 06:51 PM Post #18 |
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The is the future of INS processing at our airports....Suddenly there will be fewer applying for refugee visas...........
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| Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid | |
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