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Family of Syrians Deported From Philadelphia Voted for Donald Trump; Haha
Topic Started: Jan 31 2017, 05:34 PM (1,746 Views)
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A Pennsylvania family fighting to have their relatives return to the United States after they were detained at Philadelphia International Airport and sent back overseas under the immigration order told "NBC Nightly News" that they voted for Donald Trump.

“I understand he wants to make America safe,” Sarmad Assali said. "We're all on with this. I definitely want to be in a safe place. But people need us and we need to be there for them."

Read more: http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Assali-Family-Syria-Donald-Trump-Vote-Allentown-Immigration-Ban-Travel-Order-412238593.html#ixzz4XNS9Ls40



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The voters always get what they deserve.


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Call me cold hearted but I don't feel sorry for people that voted irresponsibly and now are feeling the effects of that vote.

The environment, women's rights, access to healthcare, separation from a loved one...

You made a choice that is going to hurt everyone. Don't come whining when it hurts you too.

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Yeah, no sympathy from me. Eff them. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.
"The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them." - George Orwell, 1984
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I for one think it's a tragedy. This family, who is obviously no threat what-so-ever was caught up in the chaos and confusion brought on by a policy transition. They were blindsided, and could not have predicted these circumstances when they went to the voting booth.
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Trump made himself very clear on the campaign trail. This is a case of getting exactly what you paid for. But, yes, it is a tragedy. Even if self-inflicted.
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I tend to think they were somewhat naïve. It's not uncommon these days, but are they undeserving of compassion for the sin of disagreeing with you? That seems to be the point everyone is trying to make here.
Edited by ringotuna, Feb 1 2017, 09:09 AM.
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Feb 1 2017, 09:08 AM
I tend to think they were somewhat naïve. It's not uncommon these days, but are they undeserving of compassion for the sin of disagreeing with you? That seems to be the point everyone is trying to make here.

I could have predicted this. And they certainly should have been able to. I'm not some kind of genius or anything.

An awful lot of people spent an awful lot of time trying to normalize Trump, trying to act like electing him was no big deal or wouldn't have consequences. I didn't agree with them and they ended up winning the election. I can accept that but damned if I'm going to feel sorry for them when the consequences of electing a loony xenophobic demagogue comes back to bite them in the rear.

I don't hate these people nor do I think it is a sin for them to disagree with me but the result of what they were doing was plenty foreseeable. If they chose to believe some fairy tale instead, that's their prerogative but I saw no evidence to support their belief at the time and no reason to feel bad for them now - at least not any worse than I'd feel for a drunk driver who crashes his car.

That's what happens when you make poor choices.

"The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them." - George Orwell, 1984
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Two a.m.
Feb 1 2017, 09:37 AM
ringotuna
Feb 1 2017, 09:08 AM
I tend to think they were somewhat naïve. It's not uncommon these days, but are they undeserving of compassion for the sin of disagreeing with you? That seems to be the point everyone is trying to make here.

I could have predicted this. And they certainly should have been able to. I'm not some kind of genius or anything.

An awful lot of people spent an awful lot of time trying to normalize Trump, trying to act like electing him was no big deal or wouldn't have consequences. I didn't agree with them and they ended up winning the election. I can accept that but damned if I'm going to feel sorry for them when the consequences of electing a loony xenophobic demagogue comes back to bite them in the rear.

I don't hate these people nor do I think it is a sin for them to disagree with me but the result of what they were doing was plenty foreseeable. If they chose to believe some fairy tale instead, that's their prerogative but I saw no evidence to support their belief at the time and no reason to feel bad for them now - at least not any worse than I'd feel for a drunk driver who crashes his car.

That's what happens when you make poor choices.

Be honest with us Two. You know very well that not everyone is as dialed in or consumed by politics as you. The fact that you 'saw it coming' in no way means they should have seen things as you do. Your expectations of them are the equivalent of judging a fish by how well it climbs a tree. ( :biggrin: Saw that on FB) And be honest with yourself. The raw and disturbing truth is they are deserving of their circumstances because they disagreed with your perceptions. Deep down you know that's true.
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Feb 1 2017, 08:37 AM
Yeah, no sympathy from me. Eff them. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.
Sheit happens. They must feel like the people that voted for Obama then lost the healthcare they had, liked and were promised they could keep. Even worse, many of them just lost the ObamaCare they had, didn't like yet were forced to buy.

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Many Mexicans also voted for Trump. Why is this news?

What about the lady who said Obama would pay for her gas and mortgage?

Leftists are desperate for soundbites.
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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Feb 1 2017, 09:53 AM
Two a.m.
Feb 1 2017, 09:37 AM
ringotuna
Feb 1 2017, 09:08 AM
I tend to think they were somewhat naïve. It's not uncommon these days, but are they undeserving of compassion for the sin of disagreeing with you? That seems to be the point everyone is trying to make here.

I could have predicted this. And they certainly should have been able to. I'm not some kind of genius or anything.

An awful lot of people spent an awful lot of time trying to normalize Trump, trying to act like electing him was no big deal or wouldn't have consequences. I didn't agree with them and they ended up winning the election. I can accept that but damned if I'm going to feel sorry for them when the consequences of electing a loony xenophobic demagogue comes back to bite them in the rear.

I don't hate these people nor do I think it is a sin for them to disagree with me but the result of what they were doing was plenty foreseeable. If they chose to believe some fairy tale instead, that's their prerogative but I saw no evidence to support their belief at the time and no reason to feel bad for them now - at least not any worse than I'd feel for a drunk driver who crashes his car.

That's what happens when you make poor choices.

Be honest with us Two. You know very well that not everyone is as dialed in or consumed by politics as you. The fact that you 'saw it coming' in no way means they should have seen things as you do. Your expectations of them are the equivalent of judging a fish by how well it climbs a tree. ( :biggrin: Saw that on FB) And be honest with yourself. The raw and disturbing truth is they are deserving of their circumstances because they disagreed with your perceptions. Deep down you know that's true.

Let's just say the older I get, the less forgiving I become. Okay, so, I don't like their vote. I disagree with them. I'll grant you that. But I respect they did what they did and their right to do it. I've got very close friends who cast ballots for Trump. And if it has bad consequences for them, I'll probably feel bad for them because they are my friends and I know them.

But whatever bitterness or coldheartedness I may be guilty of (and okay, there is some), there is also a deeper underlying reality to this story. You say they aren't as dialed in as me. But that's a problem because as citizens casting a ballot in an election they SHOULD be as dialed in as me. They may or may not make the same choices I do but it is their responsibility not to walk into a voting booth ignorant of what they are doing. You know as well as I do that far too many people wander into that booth and make superficial choices based on vague feelings induced by gauzy slogans "Yes, we can" "Make America great again" "Stronger together".

And maybe that's why our politics are so messed up. Because people don't study the candidates or the issues and just cast ballots that go with this or that flow of the moment, we end up with crappy officeholders and even crappier campaigns. Even good candidates who really want to do good things for the nation have to basically dumb everything down into soundbites to appeal to people who are barely listening.

And yet this stuff has consequences. Big ones. It's just like my earlier drunk driver example. Okay, maybe I can feel sorry for the guy who slams down a 12 pack, goes for a joyride and ends up wrecking his car.

But there is also an element of responsibility here and - to be very honest - I'm getting very tired of being asked to feel sorry for people who keep poking themselves in the eye all the time. Maybe they deserve sympathy. None of us are perfect. But folks like this almost disgust me more than Harambe4Trump. They may be nicer people but at least Harambe knows where his own interests lie - and they are doing the same amount of damage with their vote as he is.

But if you are right and expecting a voter to make an intelligent, informed and responsible choice is like judging a fish climbing a tree, then where exactly does that leave us on the concept of democracy? Certainly not anywhere encouraging. Are my expectations truly too high?

So, okay, fine. I'll be a decent human and feel sorry for them.

But I really wish they'd stop driving drunk at the voting booth after crashing both our cars.

Edited by Two a.m., Feb 1 2017, 10:22 AM.
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How did someone with citizenship get deported?
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Feb 1 2017, 10:29 AM
How did someone with citizenship get deported?
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Yeah - looks like fake fecking news to me.
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The safety of american citizens is the priority here. No one promised you a Rose Garden!

Get it like ya live: HARD!

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How did someone with citizenship get deported?
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The citizens were not sent home. Their non-citizen brothers and families were.

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Assali and her husband, Dr. Ghassan Assali, who has a dentistry practice and received his degree from New York University, are originally from Syria but have been living in the United States for 20 years.
Assali's two brothers, their wives and their two children initiated their immigration attempts in 2003 while living in Syria. In December 2016, they were approved to join Assali and her husband in Allentown after the couple bought and furnished a home for them.


I can see where the headline might confuse you though.

See, this is a case where they should not have been sent back. These folks were in the air before the order was signed and had valid visas that they had been trying to get for years. Hopefully this can get cleared up quickly and they can return since it is rather obvious that the brother is doing what he can to make them not a burden to the state.

It is fun to see our democrat friends shit on some immigrants who did nothing wrong though. Why are they hating on these poor people? They hate them because their brother had the audacity to vote for someone other than Clinton. Nice.
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If you listen to Rachel Maddow and the radical left Trump is going to start deporting people that came over on the Mayflower.

The post election meltdown will continue for a while. They are a loud, rude, obnoxious group with a microphone and the media. Eventually the American people will see through the BS. There is NO Muslim ban, period. Trump is NOT deporting immigrants, period.
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How did someone with citizenship get deported?
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The citizens were not sent home. Their non-citizen brothers and families were.

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Assali and her husband, Dr. Ghassan Assali, who has a dentistry practice and received his degree from New York University, are originally from Syria but have been living in the United States for 20 years.
Assali's two brothers, their wives and their two children initiated their immigration attempts in 2003 while living in Syria. In December 2016, they were approved to join Assali and her husband in Allentown after the couple bought and furnished a home for them.


I can see where the headline might confuse you though.

See, this is a case where they should not have been sent back. These folks were in the air before the order was signed and had valid visas that they had been trying to get for years. Hopefully this can get cleared up quickly and they can return since it is rather obvious that the brother is doing what he can to make them not a burden to the state.

It is fun to see our democrat friends s**t on some immigrants who did nothing wrong though. Why are they hating on these poor people? They hate them because their brother had the audacity to vote for someone other than Clinton. Nice.
13 years and they haven't applied for citizenship???

It would've taken my family about 4 years to do it the right way. Once we had a direct relative who was a citizen it took 2 and a half.

My wife has helped at least half a dozen illegals pass their citizenship test working through the system....generally took about a year and a half....most of that time was getting their language and knowledge skill set up to the point where they could pass the citizenship test....

These people above were either lazy or had some other not so up and up reason for not taking care of this.....

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Truth is that these folks voted for what they got. There are millions of others that voted for the guy too. A number of our posters here are part of that bunch.
Now it might be their turn to get hosed by this guy and that are getting a little nervous about that.

Oh well.


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