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The Immigration Ban is a Headfake, and We’re Falling For It; the administration is deliberately testing the limits of governmental checks and balances to set up a self-serving, dangerous
Topic Started: Jan 31 2017, 05:43 PM (473 Views)
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A legitimate argument can be made for the former: a relatively extreme and inexperienced administration was just put in place, and they haven’t yet figured out the nuances of government. But a few of the events in the past 72 hours —the intentional inclusion of green card holders in the immigration order, the DHS defiance of a federal judge, and the timing of Trump’s shakeup of the National Security Council — have pointed to a larger story. Even worse, if that larger story is true, if the source of this week’s actions is a play to consolidate power, it’s going really well so far. And that’s because mostly everyone — including those in protests shutting down airports over the weekend— are playing right into the administration’s hand.

https://medium.com/@jakefuentes/the-immigration-ban-is-a-headfake-and-were-falling-for-it-b8910e78f0c5#.dmsr9a3vp
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Once again, I’m desperately hoping that none of this narrative is actually true, and that we merely have a well-intentioned administration with some execution problems. I’m also hoping and praying that the structure of our democracy is resilient even to the most sophisticated attacks. I’m hoping that the better angels of our nature will prevail. But with each passing day, the evidence tilts more in the other direction.
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Jan 31 2017, 05:47 PM
Once again, I’m desperately hoping that none of this narrative is actually true, and that we merely have a well-intentioned administration with some execution problems. I’m also hoping and praying that the structure of our democracy is resilient even to the most sophisticated attacks. I’m hoping that the better angels of our nature will prevail. But with each passing day, the evidence tilts more in the other direction.
Hope and change brah...

If you really want to get a grasp on this and stop reading these lispy mamby pamby sites that have not only been categorically wrong about damn near everything they lied to you giving you a false confidence every day for almost two years....


Go straight to the source...read Art of the Deal....what's going on now is opening salvos on multiple fronts ....

If you were paying attention Obama admin did the same thing on a number of issues....

The only thing that is different is the pace of the Trump admin and the media pearl clutching instead of media fawning....

To paraphrase the wookie...

"For the first time in my adult life I am really proud of my country.".......
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His version of it sounds like something I would plan. In fact, I suggested on this site that the extreme nature of some of Trump's cabinet picks was designed just for the purpose of letting them get the guy they really wanted after people had a fit over the first nominee.
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Jan 31 2017, 05:56 PM
His version of it sounds like something I would plan. In fact, I suggested on this site that the extreme nature of some of Trump's cabinet picks was designed just for the purpose of letting them get the guy they really wanted after people had a fit over the first nominee.
What "extreme" cabinet picks you referring to?
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His version of it sounds like something I would plan. In fact, I suggested on this site that the extreme nature of some of Trump's cabinet picks was designed just for the purpose of letting them get the guy they really wanted after people had a fit over the first nominee.
What "extreme" cabinet picks you referring to?
Extreme from the point of view of someone like Atta.

The EPA head, the Department of Education pick both come to mind as picks that basically, if I was trying to make a left winger's head explode then they would be my pick.
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His version of it sounds like something I would plan. In fact, I suggested on this site that the extreme nature of some of Trump's cabinet picks was designed just for the purpose of letting them get the guy they really wanted after people had a fit over the first nominee.
What "extreme" cabinet picks you referring to?
Extreme from the point of view of someone like Atta.

The EPA head, the Department of Education pick both come to mind as picks that basically, if I was trying to make a left winger's head explode then they would be my pick.
So IOW sane qualified competent people....and isn't at this juncture the point to make lefties heads explode....

I'm digging this Spicer dude but Milo would have been way better....
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Jan 31 2017, 06:08 PM
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His version of it sounds like something I would plan. In fact, I suggested on this site that the extreme nature of some of Trump's cabinet picks was designed just for the purpose of letting them get the guy they really wanted after people had a fit over the first nominee.
What "extreme" cabinet picks you referring to?
Extreme from the point of view of someone like Atta.

The EPA head, the Department of Education pick both come to mind as picks that basically, if I was trying to make a left winger's head explode then they would be my pick.
So IOW sane qualified competent people....and isn't at this juncture the point to make lefties heads explode....

I'm digging this Spicer dude but Milo would have been way better....
Oh I have no problem with the picks. I just thought some of them were so vastly different from what came before that they were designed to pick a fight. Since that time though we have had the whole last week so I get it now. Trump is just doing his thing. There was no master plan to manipulate, he is just doing what he said he was going to do.
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Jan 31 2017, 06:13 PM
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His version of it sounds like something I would plan. In fact, I suggested on this site that the extreme nature of some of Trump's cabinet picks was designed just for the purpose of letting them get the guy they really wanted after people had a fit over the first nominee.
What "extreme" cabinet picks you referring to?
Extreme from the point of view of someone like Atta.

The EPA head, the Department of Education pick both come to mind as picks that basically, if I was trying to make a left winger's head explode then they would be my pick.
So IOW sane qualified competent people....and isn't at this juncture the point to make lefties heads explode....

I'm digging this Spicer dude but Milo would have been way better....
Oh I have no problem with the picks. I just thought some of them were so vastly different from what came before that they were designed to pick a fight. Since that time though we have had the whole last week so I get it now. Trump is just doing his thing. There was no master plan to manipulate, he is just doing what he said he was going to do.
Well the article states that it is just speculating.
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Jan 31 2017, 06:14 PM
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Extreme from the point of view of someone like Atta.

The EPA head, the Department of Education pick both come to mind as picks that basically, if I was trying to make a left winger's head explode then they would be my pick.
So IOW sane qualified competent people....and isn't at this juncture the point to make lefties heads explode....

I'm digging this Spicer dude but Milo would have been way better....
Oh I have no problem with the picks. I just thought some of them were so vastly different from what came before that they were designed to pick a fight. Since that time though we have had the whole last week so I get it now. Trump is just doing his thing. There was no master plan to manipulate, he is just doing what he said he was going to do.
Well the article states that it is just speculating.
I know. I even said that it sounds like the kind of manipulation I would use if I were in Trump's place.

Of course, if you are an experience negotiator of contracts then quite often you start with an outlandish price so that after negotiation you end up with what you wanted in the first place...
Edited by Demagogue, Jan 31 2017, 06:16 PM.
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His version of it sounds like something I would plan. In fact, I suggested on this site that the extreme nature of some of Trump's cabinet picks was designed just for the purpose of letting them get the guy they really wanted after people had a fit over the first nominee.
What "extreme" cabinet picks you referring to?
Extreme from the point of view of someone like Atta.

The EPA head, the Department of Education pick both come to mind as picks that basically, if I was trying to make a left winger's head explode then they would be my pick.
So IOW sane qualified competent people....and isn't at this juncture the point to make lefties heads explode....

I'm digging this Spicer dude but Milo would have been way better....
Oh I have no problem with the picks. I just thought some of them were so vastly different from what came before that they were designed to pick a fight. Since that time though we have had the whole last week so I get it now. Trump is just doing his thing. There was no master plan to manipulate, he is just doing what he said he was going to do.
Oh there is a Master Plan...but Darth Bannon is keeping it under wraps til the death star is a little further along in construction....
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Jan 31 2017, 05:47 PM
Once again, I’m desperately hoping that none of this narrative is actually true, and that we merely have a well-intentioned administration with some execution problems. I’m also hoping and praying that the structure of our democracy is resilient even to the most sophisticated attacks. I’m hoping that the better angels of our nature will prevail. But with each passing day, the evidence tilts more in the other direction.
Expect the absolute worst from this guy.


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Extreme from the point of view of someone like Atta.

The EPA head, the Department of Education pick both come to mind as picks that basically, if I was trying to make a left winger's head explode then they would be my pick.
So IOW sane qualified competent people....and isn't at this juncture the point to make lefties heads explode....

I'm digging this Spicer dude but Milo would have been way better....
Oh I have no problem with the picks. I just thought some of them were so vastly different from what came before that they were designed to pick a fight. Since that time though we have had the whole last week so I get it now. Trump is just doing his thing. There was no master plan to manipulate, he is just doing what he said he was going to do.
Oh there is a Master Plan...but Darth Bannon is keeping it under wraps til the death star is a little further along in construction....
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Speaking of head fakes...word jump came in for Scotus Hardiman is a head fake and Gorsuch is the nominee.....
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Yes, Obama showed us how far you can push things!


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Jan 31 2017, 08:07 PM
Yes, Obama showed us how far you can push things!


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And Republican obstruction showed us a thing or two as well.
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Yes, Obama showed us how far you can push things!


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And Republican obstruction showed us a thing or two as well.
If your ideas were so good...you had two midterms and the last election to sell them to the American people...

but.... :popcorn:
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I thought the real reason for liberals demonstrating is to amuse conservatives........... :lol:
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I thought the real reason for liberals demonstrating is to amuse conservatives........... :lol:
I'm amused....

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