Kellyanne Conway invents nonexistent terror attack to justify Trump ban
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I don't know. Do you think Trump's invention of millions of illegal votes was a "factual fubar"? How about his creative reworking of his inauguration crowd sizes? His calling CNN fake news? Or the literally hundreds of "factual fubars" he's had during the campaign.
I guess I should have posted that Hillary Clinton said this. Then you'd be all over it because, as we've established many times, there's no excuse for lying and it is all the same...except, I guess, when there is and it is different.
Anyway, your mistake is to believe that the Trump Administration makes some sort of difference between truth, dissembling, exaggerating, being wrong or making stuff up completely. Let me disabuse you. They don't. It is all the same to them. They simply say whatever nonsense pops into their head. Sometimes it is real. Sometimes it is false. Sometimes it is based loosely on actual events. Other times, it is a mixture of fact and fiction. Sometimes, it is completely invented. Sometimes, they misremember things. Sometimes, they blithely just retweet whatever some goofball on the internet said.
You may like to sit around calibrating their exact intent but I assure you, they don't. They just say whatever they feel like whenever they want to.
And they don't care.
I don't see Trump's lies any different from Hillary's, so stop trying to put words in my mouth. I'm simply questioning whether in this case it was a mistake or an intentional lie. Not sure why that's got you guys all worked up. And I find it interesting.... this turn about you've made regarding dishonesty in politics. You yammered on endlessly, defending the act of lying "to get ahead", even touting it as a virtue. Now all of the sudden honesty is important to you.
In many lies therein is an essential kernel of truth to make the lie more palatable. Alluding to a massacre in an American city that never happened...yeah...that's not a mistake..It's an outright fabrication, or more accurately, a "tall tale" with a kernel of truth, no doubt the essential elements were there, just not the size, scrape, or severity of any action.
At least Tsalagi has the cojones to give a straight answer.
Oh, shoot, and I was so angling for the round-about way too...dangit...
I don't know. Do you think Trump's invention of millions of illegal votes was a "factual fubar"? How about his creative reworking of his inauguration crowd sizes? His calling CNN fake news? Or the literally hundreds of "factual fubars" he's had during the campaign.
I guess I should have posted that Hillary Clinton said this. Then you'd be all over it because, as we've established many times, there's no excuse for lying and it is all the same...except, I guess, when there is and it is different.
Anyway, your mistake is to believe that the Trump Administration makes some sort of difference between truth, dissembling, exaggerating, being wrong or making stuff up completely. Let me disabuse you. They don't. It is all the same to them. They simply say whatever nonsense pops into their head. Sometimes it is real. Sometimes it is false. Sometimes it is based loosely on actual events. Other times, it is a mixture of fact and fiction. Sometimes, it is completely invented. Sometimes, they misremember things. Sometimes, they blithely just retweet whatever some goofball on the internet said.
You may like to sit around calibrating their exact intent but I assure you, they don't. They just say whatever they feel like whenever they want to.
And they don't care.
I don't see Trump's lies any different from Hillary's, so stop trying to put words in my mouth. I'm simply questioning whether in this case it was a mistake or an intentional lie. Not sure why that's got you guys all worked up. And I find it interesting.... this turn about you've made regarding dishonesty in politics. You yammered on endlessly, defending the act of lying "to get ahead", even touting it as a virtue. Now all of the sudden honesty is important to you.
In many lies therein is an essential kernel of truth to make the lie more palatable. Alluding to a massacre in an American city that never happened...yeah...that's not a mistake..It's an outright fabrication, or more accurately, a "tall tale" with a kernel of truth, no doubt the essential elements were there, just not the size, scrape, or severity of any action.
At least Tsalagi has the cojones to give a straight answer.
I gave you a straight answer. It just happens to be a complex answer.
"The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them." - George Orwell, 1984
In alternative fact world there are no misstatements No mistakes made Everything you say is fact, sort of, kind of.... alternative facts are built to support the larger mission. You don't have to be held to any accounting and when it's time to move on to the next adventure it's time to manufacture new alternative facts.
That isn't any platitude. It is the policy of this new administration. Not just some claim making, it's also one that Conway herself has established...on a stage.. in front of people.
If you don't like today's alternative facts, not to worry, there will be some more issued today to "clarify" those alternative facts from yesterday.
Was she lying? Not really, because there are no lies in an administration that doesn't know the difference between truth and lies. When you can come up with the idea of "alternative fact" all notion of truth is dead.
Ask me if I think they are a gang of sociopaths. That I can answer, they haven't yet established their interpretation of that word. They HAVE reestablished the definition of fact and that definition nullifies the old definition.
They are not lies. They can't be lies because alternative facts are only limited by the imagination.
Still no answer.
Do you think she intentionally lied, or was she confused?
I don't know and I don't know if she knows. I'm also sure you don't know.
Let's wait and see if alternative facts turn up that verify this.
Not knowing has never stopped you before. I'm simply asking your opinion. How hard is that?
She's just free thinking and letting the story unfold. I don't know if she realizes that she's a liar or not. But she is clearly a liar.
How many ways would you like me to answer the question?
She is a liar and her boss is a liar. Do they know or care? Who knows?
I used to have a boss that was well known as a guy that would never tell the truth if a lie would do. That was the joke. If he somehow told the truth, it was an accident.
I used to have a boss that was well known as a guy that would never tell the truth if a lie would do. That was the joke. If he somehow told the truth, it was an accident.
I used to have a boss that was well known as a guy that would never tell the truth if a lie would do. That was the joke. If he somehow told the truth, it was an accident.
I used to have a boss that was well known as a guy that would never tell the truth if a lie would do. That was the joke. If he somehow told the truth, it was an accident.
Maxine Waters says Putin invaded Korea? Did she lie, or mis-speak?
Waters is a longtime goofball whose statements or misstatements are not relevant here. Obviously, for some reason you desperately want to act like Conway and this White House are completely normal and have a completely normal relationship to the truth. I don't envy the task you've set for yourself because they clearly aren't and they clearly don't.
"The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them." - George Orwell, 1984
Maxine Waters says Putin invaded Korea? Did she lie, or mis-speak?
Did she try to continue the falsehood? Or did she realize it was wrong and abandon it?
Did she correct herself?
I don't know. She isn't relevant in this matter either.
Is she going to be your diversion of choice?
No need to get testy and defensive there CT. Maxine's flub is quite relevant in this context as it highlights alternative perceptions of near identical situations. Quarter is given to one, but not the other.
Maxine Waters says Putin invaded Korea? Did she lie, or mis-speak?
Did she try to continue the falsehood? Or did she realize it was wrong and abandon it?
Did she correct herself?
I don't know. She isn't relevant in this matter either.
Is she going to be your diversion of choice?
No need to get testy and defensive there CT. Maxine's flub is quite relevant in this context as it highlights alternative perceptions of near identical situations. Quarter is given to one, but not the other.
Maxine Waters says Putin invaded Korea? Did she lie, or mis-speak?
Waters is a longtime goofball whose statements or misstatements are not relevant here. Obviously, for some reason you desperately want to act like Conway and this White House are completely normal and have a completely normal relationship to the truth. I don't envy the task you've set for yourself because they clearly aren't and they clearly don't.
Oh, Hyperbole ...thy name is Two. It's not at all my intent to normalize the current administration, and your saying so does not make it so. I'm simply trying to find some reasonable rationale behind alternative perspectives of near identical incidents. Maxine's gaffe serves that purpose well, as did Hillary's. I realize that these questions are somewhat uncomfortable, so much so that rather than addressing them, you simply choose to dismiss them as irrelevant.
Long winded evasive word salad in 3 - 2 - 1.
Ringoism: Never underestimate the advantages of being underestimated.
I don't know. She isn't relevant in this matter either.
Is she going to be your diversion of choice?
No need to get testy and defensive there CT. Maxine's flub is quite relevant in this context as it highlights alternative perceptions of near identical situations. Quarter is given to one, but not the other.
So, it is your chosen deflection.
Ok .
Deflect away.....
Insisting it's a deflection does not make it so. It's viable test of political perceptions, and now a certain display of how some here will mumble deflection to avoid those uncomfortable questions.
Ringoism: Never underestimate the advantages of being underestimated.
I don't know. She isn't relevant in this matter either.
Is she going to be your diversion of choice?
No need to get testy and defensive there CT. Maxine's flub is quite relevant in this context as it highlights alternative perceptions of near identical situations. Quarter is given to one, but not the other.
So, it is your chosen deflection.
Ok .
Deflect away.....
Insisting it's a deflection does not make it so. It's viable test of political perceptions, and now a certain display of how some here will mumble deflection to avoid those uncomfortable questions.
Conway lied repeated it and few times and finally got busted. Time to admit it buddy.
There will be something new to replace this pretty soon, maybe today! That'll be the official deflection.
Kellyanne is using the same tactics trump used during the campaign - putting out a statement that is slightly erroneous about a topic that they want in the news. Media jumps all over it trying to correct her while putting that narrative out.
4D Chess and after 16 months retarded leftists are still falling for it.
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