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the Federal Judges Order doesn't help the Visas from those 7 countries; Too Funny!
Topic Started: Feb 4 2017, 08:34 AM (292 Views)
Katoblue
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what left wing news keeps hidden from all left wing clueless Grubers is..

the Judge can only ask the state dept to grant those visas.. they can't order the visas to be reinstated for all those visas were revoked last week! and only the CBP can change the rules to reinstate them.. LMAO LIBS have been TRUMPED AGAIN! :rotflmao:


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http://whnt.com/2017/02/03/us-judge-temporarily-blocks-travel-ban/


Even with the temporary restraining order, the State Department indicated in a letter dated January 27 that all visas for those from the seven Muslim-majority countries — Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen — were “provisionally revoked,” so for many travelers, the first step could be to seek a new visa. It is unlikely that many citizens of those countries can just get on a plane and come to the US because they need visas to enter the country.

It is also possible there will be more court activity and an appeal before anyone could act on getting a visa, and it’s unclear how long it would take to obtain one.

If the court order is simply telling the US government to allow people with valid visas from the seven affected countries to travel to the US, then Robart’s halt will not apply to any of them because all of those people had their visas provisionally revoked by the State Department last week, a federal official with knowledge of the situation told CNN.

A US airline executive said unless CBP changes the rules, nothing is expected to change for US airlines, as they follow the agency’s guidelines so they are not fined.

US airlines use an automated system connected to the CBP database to scan passports and visas to get an instant determination if the passenger can board or not. Unless the government re-instates visas and the airlines get a “board” status, the airlines still will not allow such passengers to board.


Killary, DNC, Obummer's DOJ and FBI all Lied and Spied and Good People Died!
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If the right thinks isolationism is the key to our nation's safety and economic well-being I think they're going to be disappointed.

Why?

Lot's of reasons like our economy is dependent on foreign trade, and isolationism during the 1930s helped Hitler rise to power unabated.



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70-101
Feb 4 2017, 08:52 AM
If the right thinks isolationism is the key to our nation's safety and economic well-being I think they're going to be disappointed.

Why?

Lot's of reasons like our economy is dependent on foreign trade, and isolationism during the 1930s helped Hitler rise to power unabated.



TEMPORARY banning possible terrorists from terrorists countries insane Hussein declared very dangerous isn't isolating trade, Muslims, or Christians at all.. esp not isolating the rest of the world..

please list all the trade deals we have with those 7 countries, and those 7 countries alone.. I Will be Waiting..

no other country in the world is banned that we do trade with from traveling here.. list what countries we do trade with that is banned from traveling here.. I Will be waiting on that answer too..

you libs are great at spewing BS you just make up out of thin air.. you libs got Trumped again..



Killary, DNC, Obummer's DOJ and FBI all Lied and Spied and Good People Died!
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Feb 4 2017, 09:05 AM
70-101
Feb 4 2017, 08:52 AM
If the right thinks isolationism is the key to our nation's safety and economic well-being I think they're going to be disappointed.

Why?

Lot's of reasons like our economy is dependent on foreign trade, and isolationism during the 1930s helped Hitler rise to power unabated.



TEMPORARY banning possible terrorists from terrorists countries insane Hussein declared very dangerous isn't isolating trade, Muslims, or Christians at all.. esp not isolating the rest of the world..

please list all the trade deals we have with those 7 countries, and those 7 countries alone.. I Will be Waiting..

no other country in the world is banned that we do trade with from traveling here.. list what countries we do trade with that is banned from traveling here.. I Will be waiting on that answer too..

you libs are great at spewing BS you just make up out of thin air.. you libs got Trumped again..



Millions of Muslims are already in the U.S., it's already too late to isolate. America is an open trade nation, you can't change that in four or eight years by spending hundreds of billion dollars of dollars to build a Berlin Wall, that isolates us from a major trading partner, while it also humiliates them.Simply because America can't control its immigration or drug problems.

So let's take it out on the middle-class and poor and destroy millions of jobs in the process of making us safer from ourselves.

All while the administration puts out press releases discussing pending future jobs they hope foreign companies will provide.

Conservatives now support economic suicide, and they don't even know it. :oyvey

Edited by 70-101, Feb 4 2017, 09:51 AM.
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State Department reverses visa ban, allows travelers with visas into U.S.: official

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department will allow people with valid visas into the United States, a department official said on Saturday, in order to comply with an opinion from a federal judge in Seattle barring President Donald Trump's executive action.

"We have reversed the provisional revocation of visas," the State Department official said in a statement. "Those individuals with visas that were not physically canceled may now travel if the visa is otherwise valid."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/state-department-reverses-visa-ban-allows-travelers-visas-151340589--finance.html?ref=gs
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wilmywood8455
Feb 4 2017, 07:04 PM
State Department reverses visa ban, allows travelers with visas into U.S.: official

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department will allow people with valid visas into the United States, a department official said on Saturday, in order to comply with an opinion from a federal judge in Seattle barring President Donald Trump's executive action.

"We have reversed the provisional revocation of visas," the State Department official said in a statement. "Those individuals with visas that were not physically canceled may now travel if the visa is otherwise valid."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/state-department-reverses-visa-ban-allows-travelers-visas-151340589--finance.html?ref=gs
Don't tell Kato about this.


Seriously though, I expect it will be reversed again and back and forth a few times as the Constitutionalists fight with the Trumpers.
It does appear that there might be people willing to stand up to the Scammer in Chief, so that's a good thing.

Gonna be a long ugly slog.


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Feb 4 2017, 09:06 PM
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Feb 4 2017, 07:04 PM
State Department reverses visa ban, allows travelers with visas into U.S.: official

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department will allow people with valid visas into the United States, a department official said on Saturday, in order to comply with an opinion from a federal judge in Seattle barring President Donald Trump's executive action.

"We have reversed the provisional revocation of visas," the State Department official said in a statement. "Those individuals with visas that were not physically canceled may now travel if the visa is otherwise valid."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/state-department-reverses-visa-ban-allows-travelers-visas-151340589--finance.html?ref=gs
Don't tell Kato about this.


Seriously though, I expect it will be reversed again and back and forth a few times as the Constitutionalists fight with the Trumpers.
It does appear that there might be people willing to stand up to the Scammer in Chief, so that's a good thing.

Gonna be a long ugly slog.
The problem I think the Trump administration is going to face is that any action taken by the government must have some rational connection to its stated goal. So in this case, if the goal is to make the U.S. safer, which is the justification the Trump administration has presented for this particular order, then there should be ample evidence that immigrants from the countries targeted are more of a threat to the to the U.S than other immigrants from other places.

But the evidence that this is true is thin if not completely absent. Immigrants from the countries targeted aren't any more prone to be a danger to the U.S. than any other immigrant from any other county. So with no rational connection to the administration's avowed goal, the action will probably be determine to have been arbitrary and an abuse of authority.
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Feb 4 2017, 09:26 PM
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Feb 4 2017, 07:04 PM
State Department reverses visa ban, allows travelers with visas into U.S.: official

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department will allow people with valid visas into the United States, a department official said on Saturday, in order to comply with an opinion from a federal judge in Seattle barring President Donald Trump's executive action.

"We have reversed the provisional revocation of visas," the State Department official said in a statement. "Those individuals with visas that were not physically canceled may now travel if the visa is otherwise valid."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/state-department-reverses-visa-ban-allows-travelers-visas-151340589--finance.html?ref=gs
Don't tell Kato about this.


Seriously though, I expect it will be reversed again and back and forth a few times as the Constitutionalists fight with the Trumpers.
It does appear that there might be people willing to stand up to the Scammer in Chief, so that's a good thing.

Gonna be a long ugly slog.
The problem I think the Trump administration is going to face is that any action taken by the government must have some rational connection to its stated goal. So in this case, if the goal is to make the U.S. safer, which is the justification the Trump administration has presented for this particular order, then there should be ample evidence that immigrants from the countries targeted are more of a threat to the to the U.S than other immigrants from other places.

But the evidence that this is true is thin if not completely absent. Immigrants from the countries targeted aren't any more prone to be a danger to the U.S. than any other immigrant from any other county. So with no rational connection to the administration's avowed goal, the action will probably be determine to have been arbitrary and an abuse of authority.
Trump's temporary immigration ban is nothing more than a cheap- partisan- politicals, and that's why it has a time limit.
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Feb 4 2017, 11:21 PM
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Feb 4 2017, 07:04 PM
State Department reverses visa ban, allows travelers with visas into U.S.: official

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department will allow people with valid visas into the United States, a department official said on Saturday, in order to comply with an opinion from a federal judge in Seattle barring President Donald Trump's executive action.

"We have reversed the provisional revocation of visas," the State Department official said in a statement. "Those individuals with visas that were not physically canceled may now travel if the visa is otherwise valid."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/state-department-reverses-visa-ban-allows-travelers-visas-151340589--finance.html?ref=gs
Don't tell Kato about this.


Seriously though, I expect it will be reversed again and back and forth a few times as the Constitutionalists fight with the Trumpers.
It does appear that there might be people willing to stand up to the Scammer in Chief, so that's a good thing.

Gonna be a long ugly slog.
The problem I think the Trump administration is going to face is that any action taken by the government must have some rational connection to its stated goal. So in this case, if the goal is to make the U.S. safer, which is the justification the Trump administration has presented for this particular order, then there should be ample evidence that immigrants from the countries targeted are more of a threat to the to the U.S than other immigrants from other places.

But the evidence that this is true is thin if not completely absent. Immigrants from the countries targeted aren't any more prone to be a danger to the U.S. than any other immigrant from any other county. So with no rational connection to the administration's avowed goal, the action will probably be determine to have been arbitrary and an abuse of authority.
Trump's temporary immigration ban is nothing more than a cheap- partisan- politicals, and that's why it has a time limit.
So, from a governmental point of view, arbitrary and an abuse of power.
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Feb 4 2017, 11:21 PM
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wilmywood8455
Feb 4 2017, 07:04 PM
State Department reverses visa ban, allows travelers with visas into U.S.: official

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department will allow people with valid visas into the United States, a department official said on Saturday, in order to comply with an opinion from a federal judge in Seattle barring President Donald Trump's executive action.

"We have reversed the provisional revocation of visas," the State Department official said in a statement. "Those individuals with visas that were not physically canceled may now travel if the visa is otherwise valid."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/state-department-reverses-visa-ban-allows-travelers-visas-151340589--finance.html?ref=gs
Don't tell Kato about this.


Seriously though, I expect it will be reversed again and back and forth a few times as the Constitutionalists fight with the Trumpers.
It does appear that there might be people willing to stand up to the Scammer in Chief, so that's a good thing.

Gonna be a long ugly slog.
The problem I think the Trump administration is going to face is that any action taken by the government must have some rational connection to its stated goal. So in this case, if the goal is to make the U.S. safer, which is the justification the Trump administration has presented for this particular order, then there should be ample evidence that immigrants from the countries targeted are more of a threat to the to the U.S than other immigrants from other places.

But the evidence that this is true is thin if not completely absent. Immigrants from the countries targeted aren't any more prone to be a danger to the U.S. than any other immigrant from any other county. So with no rational connection to the administration's avowed goal, the action will probably be determine to have been arbitrary and an abuse of authority.
Trump's temporary immigration ban is nothing more than a cheap- partisan- politicals, and that's why it has a time limit.
So, from a governmental point of view, arbitrary and an abuse of power.
An arbitrary abuse of power is absolutely correct. I would also add it's reckless, careless, pointless and totally political. Our allies, as well as our enemies, must be shaking their heads in disbelief at the new amateurish administration.

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70-101
Feb 4 2017, 11:21 PM
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CautionaryTales
Feb 4 2017, 09:06 PM
wilmywood8455
Feb 4 2017, 07:04 PM
State Department reverses visa ban, allows travelers with visas into U.S.: official

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department will allow people with valid visas into the United States, a department official said on Saturday, in order to comply with an opinion from a federal judge in Seattle barring President Donald Trump's executive action.

"We have reversed the provisional revocation of visas," the State Department official said in a statement. "Those individuals with visas that were not physically canceled may now travel if the visa is otherwise valid."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/state-department-reverses-visa-ban-allows-travelers-visas-151340589--finance.html?ref=gs
Don't tell Kato about this.


Seriously though, I expect it will be reversed again and back and forth a few times as the Constitutionalists fight with the Trumpers.
It does appear that there might be people willing to stand up to the Scammer in Chief, so that's a good thing.

Gonna be a long ugly slog.
The problem I think the Trump administration is going to face is that any action taken by the government must have some rational connection to its stated goal. So in this case, if the goal is to make the U.S. safer, which is the justification the Trump administration has presented for this particular order, then there should be ample evidence that immigrants from the countries targeted are more of a threat to the to the U.S than other immigrants from other places.

But the evidence that this is true is thin if not completely absent. Immigrants from the countries targeted aren't any more prone to be a danger to the U.S. than any other immigrant from any other county. So with no rational connection to the administration's avowed goal, the action will probably be determine to have been arbitrary and an abuse of authority.
Trump's temporary immigration ban is nothing more than a cheap- partisan- politicals, and that's why it has a time limit.
So, from a governmental point of view, arbitrary and an abuse of power.
Just like Obama's ban on Iraqi refugees ???............... ;)
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U.S. appeals court denies request to restore Trump's immigration ban

A U.S. appeal court late on Saturday denied an emergency appeal from the U.S. Department of Justice to restore an immigration order from President Donald Trump barring citizens from seven mainly Muslim countries and temporarily banning refugees.

"Appellants' request for an immediate administrative stay pending full consideration of the emergency motion for a stay pending appeal is denied," the ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-ruling-idUSKBN15K097

:hooray: :cheers: :popcorn:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zpqA7FsM9c

She notes that both of the lunatic judges ruled that the inconvenience to foreigners outweighed the very real threat to the American people, a threat that they have no intimate knowledge of and are assuming to be exaggerated or that our safety is of no consequence.
Edited by Alt Right PEPE, Feb 5 2017, 09:40 AM.
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Don't get too excited...The ban will not only be upheld, it will be expanded........... :dunno:
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