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Trump White House in Chaos - Flynn Goes Down in Flames
Topic Started: Feb 14 2017, 07:13 AM (1,173 Views)
La Pasionaria
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Dr. B
Feb 15 2017, 12:11 PM
Tsalagi
Feb 14 2017, 09:45 PM
Dr. B
Feb 14 2017, 07:22 PM
Let's back up. You said earlier that the reason you oppose Trump's adviser so strongly--the first woman in history to mount a successful presidential campaign--was because she opposes abortion.

Why is this such an important issue for you?

Let's get the myths out of the way. Conservatives are going after late term abortions, months after a woman discovers she is pregnant. Nobody wants rape victims or women whose lives are in danger to be banned from abortions. Etc. It's not a safe procedure, and there are thousands of good couples waiting to adopt children that aren't wanted. It should be allowed, but for saving lives, not because the mother would be inconvenienced by giving birth.

I can't imagine having a little human inside me, pushing against my ribs, someone I created and who depends on me to live, someone who looks like me and who will carry my name, and then to tear its little arms and legs apart with pincers and throw them away. I can't imagine doing that.

It goes back to the left's crusade against traditional morality. The media tells us that being allowed to do something is freedom. This is false. Being allowed to snort cocaine does not give you freedom. It gives you a cocaine addiction. When it comes to moral vices, we can't always trust people to do the right thing, because other people's lives are often at stake, and there is an insatiable corporation culture that preys on people's consumerism. For example, we have car commercials that shame fathers for wanting to make sure their daughters have good friends, I just saw that the other day. We have a media culture totally obsessed with sex, and that leads to unwanted pregnancy. We should promote behavior that enables people to be in greater control of their own lives.

This is where feminist culture turns against women. In their zeal to promote more options, they turned motherhood into a bad word. Stay at home moms were shamed, and suddenly it is glamorous to spend 12 hours a day in a cubicle writing papers for a big corporation instead of at home playing with your kids. Suddenly, being inclusive means we all have to conform to the fringe group, and instead of solving the problems that cause women to get abortions, our solutions only cause more problems. Back when women were abstaining from sex, getting married soon after high school, and raising children in a nuclear family, the abortion rate was very low. The same feminists who fought to save a few outliers from the pain of back alley abortions ended up putting millions of women in unpleasant situations where they have to work 8 hours a day just to make it and nobody is interested in getting married.

The problem is a cultural one, and so is the solution. We were raised by a rotten generation. It is time for us to grow up.
You do realize this whole tirade was a strawman which dealt with NOTHING on the actual topic? But the problem isn't loose women the problems are men not keeping it in their pants.
I have little respect when people copy/paste their opinions from propaganda blogs. You know this. I want to find out what people think and discuss the heart of issues. Come up with your own opinions. Don't just copy Jake Tapper. But apparently La Pasionaria is not ready to discuss her beliefs. She is in echo mode. So let's move on to more interesting topics.

It takes two to tango, I agree. Men should be held liable for their children. They should compensate the mother if they are unwilling to be there as a father. As I understand it, a system exists for this. But the fact is women give birth, not men. Leftists are obsessed with equality, I know, but does this biological difference mean that women are absolved of all personal responsibility regarding their pregnancy? Feminists try to have it both ways. Being a woman means they have the upper hand in picking a mate and romantic privileges, but when it comes to personal responsibility, suddenly they can do whatever they want if men don't have the same responsibility.

All I can do is laugh when the alt-right crowd bleats on and on about CNN and "Fake News"

Look what CNN's Jim Sciutto just Tweeted: "So in last five minutes: Flynn security clearance suspended, Labor Sec pick Puzder withdraws, US considers ground troops in Syria"

is he wrong? - NO!

Is he incorrect in his post? - NO!

Is he inaccurate? - NO!

When will mu friends on the far right wake up and admit that the Trump administration is a slow moving train wreck at best and a national calamity at the very worst!

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Dr. B
Feb 15 2017, 12:11 PM
Tsalagi
Feb 14 2017, 09:45 PM
Dr. B
Feb 14 2017, 07:22 PM
Let's back up. You said earlier that the reason you oppose Trump's adviser so strongly--the first woman in history to mount a successful presidential campaign--was because she opposes abortion.

Why is this such an important issue for you?

Let's get the myths out of the way. Conservatives are going after late term abortions, months after a woman discovers she is pregnant. Nobody wants rape victims or women whose lives are in danger to be banned from abortions. Etc. It's not a safe procedure, and there are thousands of good couples waiting to adopt children that aren't wanted. It should be allowed, but for saving lives, not because the mother would be inconvenienced by giving birth.

I can't imagine having a little human inside me, pushing against my ribs, someone I created and who depends on me to live, someone who looks like me and who will carry my name, and then to tear its little arms and legs apart with pincers and throw them away. I can't imagine doing that.

It goes back to the left's crusade against traditional morality. The media tells us that being allowed to do something is freedom. This is false. Being allowed to snort cocaine does not give you freedom. It gives you a cocaine addiction. When it comes to moral vices, we can't always trust people to do the right thing, because other people's lives are often at stake, and there is an insatiable corporation culture that preys on people's consumerism. For example, we have car commercials that shame fathers for wanting to make sure their daughters have good friends, I just saw that the other day. We have a media culture totally obsessed with sex, and that leads to unwanted pregnancy. We should promote behavior that enables people to be in greater control of their own lives.

This is where feminist culture turns against women. In their zeal to promote more options, they turned motherhood into a bad word. Stay at home moms were shamed, and suddenly it is glamorous to spend 12 hours a day in a cubicle writing papers for a big corporation instead of at home playing with your kids. Suddenly, being inclusive means we all have to conform to the fringe group, and instead of solving the problems that cause women to get abortions, our solutions only cause more problems. Back when women were abstaining from sex, getting married soon after high school, and raising children in a nuclear family, the abortion rate was very low. The same feminists who fought to save a few outliers from the pain of back alley abortions ended up putting millions of women in unpleasant situations where they have to work 8 hours a day just to make it and nobody is interested in getting married.

The problem is a cultural one, and so is the solution. We were raised by a rotten generation. It is time for us to grow up.
You do realize this whole tirade was a strawman which dealt with NOTHING on the actual topic? But the problem isn't loose women the problems are men not keeping it in their pants.
I have little respect when people copy/paste their opinions from propaganda blogs. You know this. I want to find out what people think and discuss the heart of issues. Come up with your own opinions. Don't just copy Jake Tapper. But apparently La Pasionaria is not ready to discuss her beliefs. She is in echo mode. So let's move on to more interesting topics.

It takes two to tango, I agree. Men should be held liable for their children. They should compensate the mother if they are unwilling to be there as a father. As I understand it, a system exists for this. But the fact is women give birth, not men. Leftists are obsessed with equality, I know, but does this biological difference mean that women are absolved of all personal responsibility regarding their pregnancy? Feminists try to have it both ways. Being a woman means they have the upper hand in picking a mate and romantic privileges, but when it comes to personal responsibility, suddenly they can do whatever they want if men don't have the same responsibility.

KremlinGate Enters Uncharted Waters as Russian Links Overwhelm DC http://observer.com/2017/02/donald-trump-administration-kremlingate-russia-mike-flynn/

"New revelations of clandestine ties between the president and Moscow bring turmoil to the Oval Office>"

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Dr. B
Feb 15 2017, 12:11 PM
Tsalagi
Feb 14 2017, 09:45 PM
Dr. B
Feb 14 2017, 07:22 PM
Let's back up. You said earlier that the reason you oppose Trump's adviser so strongly--the first woman in history to mount a successful presidential campaign--was because she opposes abortion.

Why is this such an important issue for you?

Let's get the myths out of the way. Conservatives are going after late term abortions, months after a woman discovers she is pregnant. Nobody wants rape victims or women whose lives are in danger to be banned from abortions. Etc. It's not a safe procedure, and there are thousands of good couples waiting to adopt children that aren't wanted. It should be allowed, but for saving lives, not because the mother would be inconvenienced by giving birth.

I can't imagine having a little human inside me, pushing against my ribs, someone I created and who depends on me to live, someone who looks like me and who will carry my name, and then to tear its little arms and legs apart with pincers and throw them away. I can't imagine doing that.

It goes back to the left's crusade against traditional morality. The media tells us that being allowed to do something is freedom. This is false. Being allowed to snort cocaine does not give you freedom. It gives you a cocaine addiction. When it comes to moral vices, we can't always trust people to do the right thing, because other people's lives are often at stake, and there is an insatiable corporation culture that preys on people's consumerism. For example, we have car commercials that shame fathers for wanting to make sure their daughters have good friends, I just saw that the other day. We have a media culture totally obsessed with sex, and that leads to unwanted pregnancy. We should promote behavior that enables people to be in greater control of their own lives.

This is where feminist culture turns against women. In their zeal to promote more options, they turned motherhood into a bad word. Stay at home moms were shamed, and suddenly it is glamorous to spend 12 hours a day in a cubicle writing papers for a big corporation instead of at home playing with your kids. Suddenly, being inclusive means we all have to conform to the fringe group, and instead of solving the problems that cause women to get abortions, our solutions only cause more problems. Back when women were abstaining from sex, getting married soon after high school, and raising children in a nuclear family, the abortion rate was very low. The same feminists who fought to save a few outliers from the pain of back alley abortions ended up putting millions of women in unpleasant situations where they have to work 8 hours a day just to make it and nobody is interested in getting married.

The problem is a cultural one, and so is the solution. We were raised by a rotten generation. It is time for us to grow up.
You do realize this whole tirade was a strawman which dealt with NOTHING on the actual topic? But the problem isn't loose women the problems are men not keeping it in their pants.
I have little respect when people copy/paste their opinions from propaganda blogs. You know this. I want to find out what people think and discuss the heart of issues. Come up with your own opinions. Don't just copy Jake Tapper. But apparently La Pasionaria is not ready to discuss her beliefs. She is in echo mode. So let's move on to more interesting topics.

It takes two to tango, I agree. Men should be held liable for their children. They should compensate the mother if they are unwilling to be there as a father. As I understand it, a system exists for this. But the fact is women give birth, not men. Leftists are obsessed with equality, I know, but does this biological difference mean that women are absolved of all personal responsibility regarding their pregnancy? Feminists try to have it both ways. Being a woman means they have the upper hand in picking a mate and romantic privileges, but when it comes to personal responsibility, suddenly they can do whatever they want if men don't have the same responsibility.

White House struggles to contain Flynn fallout; http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/319586-white-house-struggles-to-contain-flynn-fallout

"The White House on Tuesday sought to contain the damage caused by Michael ­Flynn’s resignation as national security adviser, insisting he did not break the law in his conversations with Russia.

Rather than putting the matter to rest, however, White House press secretary Sean Spicer raised more questions by confirming that Trump knew for “weeks” that ­Flynn had misled Vice President Pence and others about his dealings with Russia before his ouster on Monday."
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