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Is it a problem if Trump is in Russia's pocket?
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Topic Started: Feb 15 2017, 12:55 PM (1,084 Views)
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Feb 15 2017, 03:29 PM
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Given the current revelations regarding possible connections between Russia and Trump's campaign/administration, should thorough non-partisan investigation be conducted?
"As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One's chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well." "And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock… Was this investigated? Were democrats outraged? If not for liberal hypocrisy we would have nothing to say about them.
Actually yes, the FBI did investigate this last summer at the request of Republican members of Congress. Of course, once trump won the election, the Republican Congress was no longer interested.
So, you were in support of your candidate, Hillary Clinton, the candidate that actually accepted millions of dollars from the Russians in exchange for political favors but you are now against a Trump staffer who happened to talk with them? Do you realize how big a hypocrite you are? I see that now that you have run out of excuses for the little dictator’s incompetence, you now defend his honor by switching the subject to Hillary Clinton or President Clinton or President Obama.
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Feb 15 2017, 03:34 PM
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Given the current revelations regarding possible connections between Russia and Trump's campaign/administration, should thorough non-partisan investigation be conducted?
"As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One's chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well." "And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock… Was this investigated? Were democrats outraged? If not for liberal hypocrisy we would have nothing to say about them.
Actually yes, the FBI did investigate this last summer at the request of Republican members of Congress. Of course, once trump won the election, the Republican Congress was no longer interested.
So, you were in support of your candidate, Hillary Clinton, the candidate that actually accepted millions of dollars from the Russians in exchange for political favors but you are now against a Trump staffer who happened to talk with them? Do you realize how big a hypocrite you are?
I see that now that you have run out of excuses for the little dictator’s incompetence, you now defend his honor by switching the subject to Hillary Clinton or President Clinton or President Obama. Little dictator? You are ranting like a spoiled child, he was elected under that same condition as every other president. He's a dictator because he beat the democrat candidate who was under multiple FBI investigations.
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Feb 15 2017, 03:36 PM
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Feb 15 2017, 03:42 PM
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Did you care that the Chinese were funneling millions to the Clintons re-election campaign in the 90s? See Johnny Trie.
I didn't support Clinton in part because her foundation activity looked slimy. But I'm supposed to be okay with Trump's situation looking even more slimy? I don't think so.
This wasn't about the foundation, this was about the Clintons in the 90s.... a lot of money was funneled thru Chinese contacts to Bill's re-election. There were serious questions about Chinese influence on the election as well as whether advanced missile technology made it to the Chinese. Democrats didn't give a ****. We were all surprised.
I would have thought that if all that were true, some of it would have come to light during the many investigations into basically everything she has ever done, ever. Multiple people were prosecuted and convicted... I'm not surprised you aren't aware of it
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Feb 15 2017, 04:06 PM
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I didn't support Clinton in part because her foundation activity looked slimy. But I'm supposed to be okay with Trump's situation looking even more slimy? I don't think so.
This wasn't about the foundation, this was about the Clintons in the 90s.... a lot of money was funneled thru Chinese contacts to Bill's re-election. There were serious questions about Chinese influence on the election as well as whether advanced missile technology made it to the Chinese. Democrats didn't give a ****. We were all surprised.
I would have thought that if all that were true, some of it would have come to light during the many investigations into basically everything she has ever done, ever.
Multiple people were prosecuted and convicted... I'm not surprised you aren't aware of it Got links?
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Feb 15 2017, 04:27 PM
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Feb 15 2017, 04:27 PM
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This wasn't about the foundation, this was about the Clintons in the 90s.... a lot of money was funneled thru Chinese contacts to Bill's re-election. There were serious questions about Chinese influence on the election as well as whether advanced missile technology made it to the Chinese. Democrats didn't give a ****. We were all surprised.
I would have thought that if all that were true, some of it would have come to light during the many investigations into basically everything she has ever done, ever.
Multiple people were prosecuted and convicted... I'm not surprised you aren't aware of it
Got links? And someone jumps up to make my point
I'm on a phone in the Midwest... look up Chinagate
Charlie Trie. Johnny Chung, John Huang 1996 campaign financing scandal
Even the Democrats finally admitted that China tried to influence Congressional elections, they drew the line at the presidential election
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Feb 15 2017, 04:50 PM
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I would have thought that if all that were true, some of it would have come to light during the many investigations into basically everything she has ever done, ever.
Multiple people were prosecuted and convicted... I'm not surprised you aren't aware of it
Got links?
And someone jumps up to make my point I'm on a phone in the Midwest... look up Chinagate Charlie Trie. Johnny Chung, John Huang 1996 campaign financing scandal Even the Democrats finally admitted that China tried to influence Congressional elections, they drew the line at the presidential election And no links...
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Feb 15 2017, 04:58 PM
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Feb 15 2017, 05:19 PM
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Why is it a problem now?
The left couldn't care less when Clinton/Gore were bought by the Chinese. Ever wonder how China got their hands on our military hardware secrets? That was 20 years ago.
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Ever notice the only 2 people Trump refuses to speak ill of are Stormy Daniels and Vladimir Putin?
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Feb 15 2017, 05:22 PM
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Multiple people were prosecuted and convicted... I'm not surprised you aren't aware of it
Got links?
And someone jumps up to make my point I'm on a phone in the Midwest... look up Chinagate Charlie Trie. Johnny Chung, John Huang 1996 campaign financing scandal Even the Democrats finally admitted that China tried to influence Congressional elections, they drew the line at the presidential election
And no links... You're too stupid to find out what happened? I'm shocked. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_finance_controversy
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Multiple people were prosecuted and convicted... I'm not surprised you aren't aware of it
Got links?
And someone jumps up to make my point I'm on a phone in the Midwest... look up Chinagate Charlie Trie. Johnny Chung, John Huang 1996 campaign financing scandal Even the Democrats finally admitted that China tried to influence Congressional elections, they drew the line at the presidential election
And no links... As a courtesy to Jake:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_finance_controversy
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Feb 15 2017, 05:23 PM
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Why is it a problem now?
The left couldn't care less when Clinton/Gore were bought by the Chinese. Ever wonder how China got their hands on our military hardware secrets?
That was 20 years ago. Well, if it was ok then, I'm not sure why it's not ok now.
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Feb 15 2017, 05:23 PM
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Got links?
And someone jumps up to make my point I'm on a phone in the Midwest... look up Chinagate Charlie Trie. Johnny Chung, John Huang 1996 campaign financing scandal Even the Democrats finally admitted that China tried to influence Congressional elections, they drew the line at the presidential election
And no links...
As a courtesy to Jake: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_finance_controversy Thank you, good sir, you are a scholar and a gentleman
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Feb 15 2017, 05:32 PM
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Given the current revelations regarding possible connections between Russia and Trump's campaign/administration, should thorough non-partisan investigation be conducted? It's a problem, a big one. It needs a thorough and complete investigation
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Feb 15 2017, 06:15 PM
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Really? I would be embarrassed to post that. Several decades later??
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Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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Feb 15 2017, 06:17 PM
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Why is it a problem now?
The left couldn't care less when Clinton/Gore were bought by the Chinese. Ever wonder how China got their hands on our military hardware secrets?
That was 20 years ago. Law enforcement are still trying to nail Polanski for rape.
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Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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So basically Trump's defenders as saying that his being in Russia's pocket shouldn't be a problem because Clinton, China, Polanski, or any other thing you care to name that has literally nothing to do with Trump.
Well, okay then. It's not like their morals are on greased skids or anything.
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Feb 15 2017, 06:58 PM
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So basically Trump's defenders as saying that his being in Russia's pocket shouldn't be a problem because Clinton, China, Polanski, or any other thing you care to name that has literally nothing to do with Trump.
Well, okay then. It's not like their morals are on greased skids or anything. There was an investigation that proved Chinese involvement in the 96 elections. The silence from the left was deafening. If you had no problem with the Chinese trying to buy our elections then why would you have a problem now?
Btw, I'm all for an independent investigation. Let the chips fall where they may. What I've seen on the topic is that some of Trump's former advisors talked with some Russian chaps... no mention of Trump or doing amy thing about the election... but if they come up with something I'm willing to look at it... but let's move beyond the death a thousand cuts strategy... all it does is ensure a similar payback later.
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So basically Trump's defenders as saying that his being in Russia's pocket shouldn't be a problem because Clinton, China, Polanski, or any other thing you care to name that has literally nothing to do with Trump.
Well, okay then. It's not like their morals are on greased skids or anything.
There was an investigation that proved Chinese involvement in the 96 elections. The silence from the left was deafening. If you had no problem with the Chinese trying to buy our elections then why would you have a problem now? Btw, I'm all for an independent investigation. Let the chips fall where they may. What I've seen on the topic is that some of Trump's former advisors talked with some Russian chaps... no mention of Trump or doing amy thing about the election... but if they come up with something I'm willing to look at it... but let's move beyond the death a thousand cuts strategy... all it does is ensure a similar payback later. There was proof that the Chinese attempted to involved themselves in the 96' election, that I will give you. No evidence was provided that Bill or Hillary Clinton were in the know.
Personally, I'm willing to entertain the possibility that they were. The thing is NO EVIDENCE WAS PROVIDED that they were, even though an investigation was conducted.
And now you're arguing that we shouldn't even investigate Trump? Really?
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