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Nearly 2 million non-citizen Hispanics illegally registered to vote
Topic Started: Feb 16 2017, 11:52 AM (900 Views)
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Feb 16 2017, 12:53 PM
Fake NON-news.
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He has the power to order such an investigation... that he doesn't is very telling.
He's been in office less than one month, nothing has been ruled out. I hope he does, I think the democrats, especially in the inner cities have a lot to hide.
And in that time he has issued how many executive orders? Why was this investigation not one of those orders? Why has Sessions not levied the full weight of the DOJ? Is the Obama Shadow Gov stopping him?
Calm down little buddy, even Trump can't fix decades of government incompetence and corruption in 1 month. Is everyone on the left hyperventilating and convulsing with anger? How long did it take our Lil Trainee to get a website up and functional? Exhale.... close your eyes......relax..... We are both on the same team, act like a teammate for a change.
Sorry grandpa but you're on the side of facism and the handing over of our democracy to oligarchs. That is not my team. You voted for it you own it.
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I'm sure there are people voting illegally. Two million? Not sure if that number is correct and I'm not sure how many there are who vote illegally. But it is likely that there are some.

Why? Two reasons...1. Our government (fed, state and local) screws up all the time. It isn't inconceivable that it would be possible to register to vote without being a citizen of this country. 2. My son moved out of state and, once established, registered to vote in his new state. For five years his name was kept on the voting register in my state and every election I would receive the sample ballot in his name that is mailed out to registered voters.

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Feb 16 2017, 02:54 PM
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Feb 16 2017, 01:03 PM
When someone convinces me that an illegal immigrant would put themselves at risk of getting caught by registering to vote is the day I will buy that this sort of bs is true.

That's like trying to claim water will run up hill.
Well, to be fair, for the last 8 years the chances of a non-violent illegal alien being deported were pretty low so long as they did not get caught right at the border crossing.
That doesn't answer the question of why should someone register to vote when that increases the chance of discovery.

The whole song of illegal immigrants registering to vote makes no logical sense.


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Feb 16 2017, 04:07 PM
I'm sure there are people voting illegally. Two million? Not sure if that number is correct and I'm not sure how many there are who vote illegally. But it is likely that there are some.

Why? Two reasons...1. Our government (fed, state and local) screws up all the time. It isn't inconceivable that it would be possible to register to vote without being a citizen of this country. 2. My son moved out of state and, once established, registered to vote in his new state. For five years his name was kept on the voting register in my state and every election I would receive the sample ballot in his name that is mailed out to registered voters.

This is the likeliest case of improper voter registries. It isn't illegal voters at all. It is nothing that is likely to cause an illegal vote.


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This is probably accurate - based on how the DNC actively encourages electoral fraud.
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Feb 16 2017, 04:42 PM
This is probably accurate - based on how the DNC actively encourages electoral fraud.
Got proof?
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Feb 16 2017, 03:17 PM
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Feb 16 2017, 12:56 PM
Liberals want us to believe illegals can send their children to our schools, they can get jobs, they can in many states get drivers licenses, they can get healthcare and they can welfare yet they are unable to register to vote? How f ing naïve do they think we are?

We need a full blown investigation, if the dems have nothing to hide an investigation will vindicate them. ON the other hand if they're caught in massive voter fraud what do we do? Outlaw the democrat part as a terrorist organization?

Let's get it on!
Anyone can get their kid into public school, illegal immigrant or not. Anyone can get emergency healthcare, hospitals cannot turn them away, illegal or not.

Illegals cannot get welfare or register to vote.

I wouldn't say you're "f-ing naïve".

I'd say you are willfully ignorant and have no idea what illegals can or can't do, legally, in the US.
Families with anchor babies do in fact receive billions in benefits. What happens when an illegal walks into an emergency room with no insurance? He gets care? I guarantee it would be easy to register an illegal, especially in inner city sanctuary democrat areas.

You are beyond naïve, I'm not sure how to classify you?
Federal Law prohibits denial of medical treatment to any patient, legal or illegal, American or Non-American. Still crazy is correct at least TRY to educate yourself on what a non-American can obtain here in the US before you buy into the rants provided so far.

None of my ER doctors could ever deny treatment to a patient, their immigration status is irrevelent.
Federal law prohibits child abuse, sale of illegal narcotics, murder and driving while under the influence. How many incidences of those crimes do we have every day? Did your liberal conversion therapy require you to surrender common sense? Are you really dumb enough to think that because it's against the law that it doesn't happen?
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When someone convinces me that an illegal immigrant would put themselves at risk of getting caught by registering to vote is the day I will buy that this sort of bs is true.

That's like trying to claim water will run up hill.
Well, to be fair, for the last 8 years the chances of a non-violent illegal alien being deported were pretty low so long as they did not get caught right at the border crossing.
That doesn't answer the question of why should someone register to vote when that increases the chance of discovery.

The whole song of illegal immigrants registering to vote makes no logical sense.
Sure it does. If you live in a state where you now they won't deport you and they will give you a driver's license despite the fact that you are an illegal alien then you know you are safe. So, once you know you are safe you then think that you can sign up for benefits and even vote in the elections. It makes sense for them to register to vote because if they don't get caught they can then try to vote in politicians who are even more sympathetic to their cause.

Remember that millions of illegal aliens already have the right to vote under the various amnesties that have happened over the years. These people know that if they can just get the right people elected then they will get their own amnesty and the fact that they voted illegally to make it happen won't matter.

Basically, the only chance that there was that they might ever face consequences for their actions was if Trump got elected. So how do you stop Trump from getting elected? You vote. It does not matter that you are voting illegally because if Trump wins, then you might get deported anyway.
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When someone convinces me that an illegal immigrant would put themselves at risk of getting caught by registering to vote is the day I will buy that this sort of bs is true.

That's like trying to claim water will run up hill.
Well, to be fair, for the last 8 years the chances of a non-violent illegal alien being deported were pretty low so long as they did not get caught right at the border crossing.
That doesn't answer the question of why should someone register to vote when that increases the chance of discovery.

The whole song of illegal immigrants registering to vote makes no logical sense.
Sure it does. If you live in a state where you now they won't deport you and they will give you a driver's license despite the fact that you are an illegal alien then you know you are safe. So, once you know you are safe you then think that you can sign up for benefits and even vote in the elections. It makes sense for them to register to vote because if they don't get caught they can then try to vote in politicians who are even more sympathetic to their cause.

Remember that millions of illegal aliens already have the right to vote under the various amnesties that have happened over the years. These people know that if they can just get the right people elected then they will get their own amnesty and the fact that they voted illegally to make it happen won't matter.

Basically, the only chance that there was that they might ever face consequences for their actions was if Trump got elected. So how do you stop Trump from getting elected? You vote. It does not matter that you are voting illegally because if Trump wins, then you might get deported anyway.
one small hole in your theory... states that issue licenses to illegals show that on the license.

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We have a sample size of 58 being used to argue that upwards of 2 million non-citizens have illegally registered to vote.

Does no one see the problem here?
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It is a fact that many illegals often register to vote thinking that they have the legal right to do so but in the end they don't vote.

If you read through your cited article it in no way says that these people actually voted.

Conservatives have been chasing their tails for years trying to prove that large numbers of illegals are voting but thus far they have come up empty every time.

Just look at Old Trumpy's latest claim about Kelly Ayotte in New Hampshire, just another wild goose chase.

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Feb 16 2017, 04:46 PM
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Feb 16 2017, 04:42 PM
This is probably accurate - based on how the DNC actively encourages electoral fraud.
Got proof?
Yup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
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Feb 16 2017, 04:42 PM
This is probably accurate - based on how the DNC actively encourages electoral fraud.
Got proof?
Yup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
Unfortunately for you Project Veritas has been thoroughly debunked numerous times. This is the epitome of fake news.
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Feb 16 2017, 04:42 PM
This is probably accurate - based on how the DNC actively encourages electoral fraud.
Got proof?
Yup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
Unfortunately for you Project Veritas has been thoroughly debunked numerous times. This is the epitome of fake news.
Describe how this video has been debunked. Be specific with sources.
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When someone convinces me that an illegal immigrant would put themselves at risk of getting caught by registering to vote is the day I will buy that this sort of bs is true.

That's like trying to claim water will run up hill.
Well, to be fair, for the last 8 years the chances of a non-violent illegal alien being deported were pretty low so long as they did not get caught right at the border crossing.
That doesn't answer the question of why should someone register to vote when that increases the chance of discovery.

The whole song of illegal immigrants registering to vote makes no logical sense.
Sure it does. If you live in a state where you now they won't deport you and they will give you a driver's license despite the fact that you are an illegal alien then you know you are safe. So, once you know you are safe you then think that you can sign up for benefits and even vote in the elections. It makes sense for them to register to vote because if they don't get caught they can then try to vote in politicians who are even more sympathetic to their cause.

Remember that millions of illegal aliens already have the right to vote under the various amnesties that have happened over the years. These people know that if they can just get the right people elected then they will get their own amnesty and the fact that they voted illegally to make it happen won't matter.

Basically, the only chance that there was that they might ever face consequences for their actions was if Trump got elected. So how do you stop Trump from getting elected? You vote. It does not matter that you are voting illegally because if Trump wins, then you might get deported anyway.
one small hole in your theory... states that issue licenses to illegals show that on the license.

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The fact that they can get a license was not part of my argument for their motivation to vote illegally. In California a driver's license is not required to vote.

I was simply explaining why they would consider doing it. What motivation they might have, which is the question that was asked. I pointed out the license thing to show how lenient toward illegal aliens California is.
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We have a sample size of 58 being used to argue that upwards of 2 million non-citizens have illegally registered to vote.

Does no one see the problem here?
I do agree that 58 is a ridiculously small sample size.
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Feb 16 2017, 05:38 PM
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Feb 16 2017, 05:37 PM
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Feb 16 2017, 04:46 PM
estonianman
Feb 16 2017, 04:42 PM
This is probably accurate - based on how the DNC actively encourages electoral fraud.
Got proof?
Yup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
Unfortunately for you Project Veritas has been thoroughly debunked numerous times. This is the epitome of fake news.
Describe how this video has been debunked. Be specific with sources.
Well since you asked nicely....

Project Veritas’ Election 2016 ‘Rigging’ Videos
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For an illegal to register to vote, requires that they document their breaking of the law with a legal document.

In fact, this is why it doesn't make sense to do that:

Noncitizen Faces Deportation for Illegal Voting After Getting Driver’s License
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Feb 16 2017, 05:37 PM
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Feb 16 2017, 04:46 PM
estonianman
Feb 16 2017, 04:42 PM
This is probably accurate - based on how the DNC actively encourages electoral fraud.
Got proof?
Yup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
Unfortunately for you Project Veritas has been thoroughly debunked numerous times. This is the epitome of fake news.
Describe how this video has been debunked. Be specific with sources.
Here's some real news that debunks nonsense about "illegals voting"; Illegal Voting Claims, and Why They Don’t Hold Up; https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/upshot/illegal-voting-claims-and-why-they-dont-hold-up.html?_r=0

"There isn’t any evidence to support President Trump’s assertion that three to five million illegal votes were cast in the 2016 presidential election.

But there is one study that has been interpreted to suggest it is at least possible. It found that between 32,000 and 2.8 million noncitizen voters might have fraudulently cast ballots in the 2008 presidential election. The study, based on a survey of 38,000 people after that election, has been under fire since it was published in 2014.

Now even its authors concede that it probably overstated the amount of noncitizen voting. “The high-end estimates are likely incorrect,” Jesse Richman, one of the co-authors of the study and a political science professor at Old Dominion University, said in an email exchange on Wednesday. In a post online, he also said that the findings do not support Mr. Trump’s contention that millions cast ballots illegally.

Mr. Richman still maintains that some small percentage of noncitizens vote in American elections. But the debate over this study has moved on. It’s no longer about whether millions of illegal votes were cast, but whether there’s any evidence for noncitizen voting at all."
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