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Nearly 2 million non-citizen Hispanics illegally registered to vote
Topic Started: Feb 16 2017, 11:52 AM (902 Views)
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Holy crap. These people broke the law by entering this country illegally. Leftists think they were honest during the last election. :lol:
Edited by Drudge X, Feb 16 2017, 06:47 PM.
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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Yup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
Unfortunately for you Project Veritas has been thoroughly debunked numerous times. This is the epitome of fake news.
Describe how this video has been debunked. Be specific with sources.
Well since you asked nicely....

Project Veritas’ Election 2016 ‘Rigging’ Videos
Snopes only attacks O'Keefe for the Acorn stuff - it doesn't debunk the specific video that I posted.

Try again.
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Feb 16 2017, 06:32 PM
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Yup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
Unfortunately for you Project Veritas has been thoroughly debunked numerous times. This is the epitome of fake news.
Describe how this video has been debunked. Be specific with sources.
Here's some real news that debunks nonsense about "illegals voting"; Illegal Voting Claims, and Why They Don’t Hold Up; https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/upshot/illegal-voting-claims-and-why-they-dont-hold-up.html?_r=0

"There isn’t any evidence to support President Trump’s assertion that three to five million illegal votes were cast in the 2016 presidential election.

But there is one study that has been interpreted to suggest it is at least possible. It found that between 32,000 and 2.8 million noncitizen voters might have fraudulently cast ballots in the 2008 presidential election. The study, based on a survey of 38,000 people after that election, has been under fire since it was published in 2014.

Now even its authors concede that it probably overstated the amount of noncitizen voting. “The high-end estimates are likely incorrect,” Jesse Richman, one of the co-authors of the study and a political science professor at Old Dominion University, said in an email exchange on Wednesday. In a post online, he also said that the findings do not support Mr. Trump’s contention that millions cast ballots illegally.

Mr. Richman still maintains that some small percentage of noncitizens vote in American elections. But the debate over this study has moved on. It’s no longer about whether millions of illegal votes were cast, but whether there’s any evidence for noncitizen voting at all."
I am not debating the numbers - i am debating defensive democrats that want to avoid the issue all together.
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FAKE NEWS
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That doesn't answer the question of why should someone register to vote when that increases the chance of discovery.

The whole song of illegal immigrants registering to vote makes no logical sense.
Sure it does. If you live in a state where you now they won't deport you and they will give you a driver's license despite the fact that you are an illegal alien then you know you are safe. So, once you know you are safe you then think that you can sign up for benefits and even vote in the elections. It makes sense for them to register to vote because if they don't get caught they can then try to vote in politicians who are even more sympathetic to their cause.

Remember that millions of illegal aliens already have the right to vote under the various amnesties that have happened over the years. These people know that if they can just get the right people elected then they will get their own amnesty and the fact that they voted illegally to make it happen won't matter.

Basically, the only chance that there was that they might ever face consequences for their actions was if Trump got elected. So how do you stop Trump from getting elected? You vote. It does not matter that you are voting illegally because if Trump wins, then you might get deported anyway.
one small hole in your theory... states that issue licenses to illegals show that on the license.

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The fact that they can get a license was not part of my argument for their motivation to vote illegally. In California a driver's license is not required to vote.

I was simply explaining why they would consider doing it. What motivation they might have, which is the question that was asked. I pointed out the license thing to show how lenient toward illegal aliens California is.
In CA you cant register to vote without a birth certificate or "non-illegal" drivers license / id both of which require a birth certificate and social security # to get.
Ever notice the only 2 people Trump refuses to speak ill of are Stormy Daniels and Vladimir Putin?
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Quoting limited to 5 levels deephttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
Unfortunately for you Project Veritas has been thoroughly debunked numerous times. This is the epitome of fake news.
Describe how this video has been debunked. Be specific with sources.
Well since you asked nicely....

Project Veritas’ Election 2016 ‘Rigging’ Videos
Snopes only attacks O'Keefe for the Acorn stuff - it doesn't debunk the specific video that I posted.

Try again.
Actually it shows a pattern that he uses to spin facts. It is his modu aperandi.
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Quoting limited to 5 levels deephttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
Describe how this video has been debunked. Be specific with sources.
Well since you asked nicely....

Project Veritas’ Election 2016 ‘Rigging’ Videos
Snopes only attacks O'Keefe for the Acorn stuff - it doesn't debunk the specific video that I posted.

Try again.
Actually it shows a pattern that he uses to spin facts. It is his modu aperandi.
So it doesn't debunk the video where Scott Foval, a DNC operative is bragging about electoral fraud.

Anything else?
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Quoting limited to 5 levels deephttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
Well since you asked nicely....

Project Veritas’ Election 2016 ‘Rigging’ Videos
Snopes only attacks O'Keefe for the Acorn stuff - it doesn't debunk the specific video that I posted.

Try again.
Actually it shows a pattern that he uses to spin facts. It is his modu aperandi.
So it doesn't debunk the video where Scott Foval, a DNC operative is bragging about electoral fraud.

Anything else?
So you admit that his ACORN video (and NPR video had you read the article) were debunked but you still find him trustworthy? Sounds like a Trump voter to me.
Anytime we mention our condition, our history or existence, they callin it reverse racism.
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Snopes only attacks O'Keefe for the Acorn stuff - it doesn't debunk the specific video that I posted.

Try again.
Actually it shows a pattern that he uses to spin facts. It is his modu aperandi.
So it doesn't debunk the video where Scott Foval, a DNC operative is bragging about electoral fraud.

Anything else?
So you admit that his ACORN video (and NPR video had you read the article) were debunked but you still find him trustworthy? Sounds like a Trump voter to me.
Once again and for the final time comrade, we are not talking about Acorn. We are talking about Scott Foval's words on the tape.

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Actually it shows a pattern that he uses to spin facts. It is his modu aperandi.
So it doesn't debunk the video where Scott Foval, a DNC operative is bragging about electoral fraud.

Anything else?
So you admit that his ACORN video (and NPR video had you read the article) were debunked but you still find him trustworthy? Sounds like a Trump voter to me.
Once again and for the final time comrade, we are not talking about Acorn. We are talking about Scott Foval's words on the tape.

Those tapes have serious problems and lots of questions. The unedited, raw footage or transcript was never released. These producers have already been cause selectively editing video to be misleading.

http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/19/scott-foval-reportedly-fired-from-political-organization-over-sting-videos/

But, for the sake of argument, let's say this tape is true. Where is the evidence? Where are the convictions? The charges? They have identified voter fraud, it is not that much of an investigation to get the evidence it actually happened.
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Feb 16 2017, 06:47 PM
Holy crap. These people broke the law by entering this country illegally. Leftists think they were honest during the last election. :lol:
Any reasonable person can see that all illegal aliens are criminals............. :oyvey
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So it doesn't debunk the video where Scott Foval, a DNC operative is bragging about electoral fraud.

Anything else?
So you admit that his ACORN video (and NPR video had you read the article) were debunked but you still find him trustworthy? Sounds like a Trump voter to me.
Once again and for the final time comrade, we are not talking about Acorn. We are talking about Scott Foval's words on the tape.

Those tapes have serious problems and lots of questions. The unedited, raw footage or transcript was never released. These producers have already been cause selectively editing video to be misleading.

http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/19/scott-foval-reportedly-fired-from-political-organization-over-sting-videos/

But, for the sake of argument, let's say this tape is true. Where is the evidence? Where are the convictions? The charges? They have identified voter fraud, it is not that much of an investigation to get the evidence it actually happened.
Let's go over those queries right now.

You'll be the first to do so on the internet - so come prepared.
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President Trump working for Americans.

This woman came here illegally and started popping out babies. She cannot afford to take care of the kids. The father is nowhere present or the kids don't know who the father(s) is. She never bothered to learn English or assimilate. Yet, she wants to continue living here off the backs of working Americans.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/immigrant-takes-refuge-denver-church-avoid-deportation-224000263.html
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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The President of the United States says there is proof that millions of votes were made illegally.

Given the fact that a cornerstone of our entire system of freedom is based on the citizen vote why isn't this already being fully and openly investigated?

What's the holdup? :confused:


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Feb 16 2017, 05:12 PM
We have a sample size of 58 being used to argue that upwards of 2 million non-citizens have illegally registered to vote.

Does no one see the problem here?
I think you will find that the majority of "studies" have a low sampling number. Why? First, the more people you interview, the more expensive the study. Secondly, most studies are looking for a specific outcome, preferably what the people paying for the poll want to see. So, the larger the sampling, the more chance of a result independent of what those paying for it want. Plus, conducting the poll solely in an area where the outcome is predictable also manages to get the results those paying for the poll want.

This is why I hardly ever believe poll results. Statistics are too easy to bend one way or another and the majority of Americans really have no knowledge of basic statistical analysis.

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