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No question Russia meddled in election, US ambassador says; Republicans abandoning last month's talking points
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Apr 3 2017, 11:13 PM

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepYa, maybe. Didn't change the Election outcome anyway. Not a single vote was flipped.



The US does a lot more than "meddling" in Elections all over the world. Hypocrite!....enjoy the next 8 years.
There is still no actual hard evidence that the Waskily Wussians did anything.
Apart from some electronic signatures that some hacker in outback Australia could have used.
And with what is coming out, it could have been Obarmy's CIA. :booboo:
No, that train left the station a long time ago. The US has enough evidence that even the stalwarts in Congress who have been briefed now admit that the Russians were actively trying to affect our election to the benefit of Trump.

There was a report released that presented what they could in the open. There is much more that is still classified.
The US does 10x that around the world. All the time.


Trump beat Hillary. The Russians nor CNN could change that. Not even Obama spying on Trump. :lol:
Well, the election wasn't that simple. Hillary beat Trump by almost 3,000,000 votes in the popular count. Trump won in the Electoral College because of a margin of less than 1% in three critical swing state. The results were decided by a tiny margin in favor of the candidate who got millions fewer votes over-all. The number of voters needed to be swung to Trump for him to win in the EC was relatively tiny.

It is in this context that the massive, well organized and well-financed campaign of fake scandals and fake news conducted by 1,000,000 professional hackers working out of Russia needs to be considered. Their hacking attacks skillfully combined the insertion of hundreds of bots in American social media, software programmed to reinforce the Moscow propaganda by causing thousands of Americans to be duped into repeating it. From there, things get more sinister because we know that various websites such as Breitbart News Daily and media outlets like Fox News and even the Trump campaign itself, took fake news stories directly off Russian TV and news media and circulated them across America.

In a paper thin election, the massive effort of the Russian government to sway voters away from one candidate and to the other appears to have been decisive. Collaboration by the Trump campaign would be a felony violation of US election laws.
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Russia did it. :lol:
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Quoting limited to 5 levels deepYa, maybe. Didn't change the Election outcome anyway. Not a single vote was flipped.



The US does a lot more than "meddling" in Elections all over the world. Hypocrite!....enjoy the next 8 years.
No, that train left the station a long time ago. The US has enough evidence that even the stalwarts in Congress who have been briefed now admit that the Russians were actively trying to affect our election to the benefit of Trump.

There was a report released that presented what they could in the open. There is much more that is still classified.
The US does 10x that around the world. All the time.


Trump beat Hillary. The Russians nor CNN could change that. Not even Obama spying on Trump. :lol:
Well, the election wasn't that simple. Hillary beat Trump by almost 3,000,000 votes in the popular count. Trump won in the Electoral College because of a margin of less than 1% in three critical swing state. The results were decided by a tiny margin in favor of the candidate who got millions fewer votes over-all. The number of voters needed to be swung to Trump for him to win in the EC was relatively tiny.

It is in this context that the massive, well organized and well-financed campaign of fake scandals and fake news conducted by 1,000,000 professional hackers working out of Russia needs to be considered. Their hacking attacks skillfully combined the insertion of hundreds of bots in American social media, software programmed to reinforce the Moscow propaganda by causing thousands of Americans to be duped into repeating it. From there, things get more sinister because we know that various websites such as Breitbart News Daily and media outlets like Fox News and even the Trump campaign itself, took fake news stories directly off Russian TV and news media and circulated them across America.

In a paper thin election, the massive effort of the Russian government to sway voters away from one candidate and to the other appears to have been decisive. Collaboration by the Trump campaign would be a felony violation of US election laws.
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Russia did it. :lol:
Your map ^^^ is misleading, perhaps deliberately so. Presidents aren't elected by county. Put up a map by popular vote and EC vote and ponder the contrast.
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Quoting limited to 5 levels deepYa, maybe. Didn't change the Election outcome anyway. Not a single vote was flipped.



The US does a lot more than "meddling" in Elections all over the world. Hypocrite!....enjoy the next 8 years.
The US does 10x that around the world. All the time.


Trump beat Hillary. The Russians nor CNN could change that. Not even Obama spying on Trump. :lol:
Well, the election wasn't that simple. Hillary beat Trump by almost 3,000,000 votes in the popular count. Trump won in the Electoral College because of a margin of less than 1% in three critical swing state. The results were decided by a tiny margin in favor of the candidate who got millions fewer votes over-all. The number of voters needed to be swung to Trump for him to win in the EC was relatively tiny.

It is in this context that the massive, well organized and well-financed campaign of fake scandals and fake news conducted by 1,000,000 professional hackers working out of Russia needs to be considered. Their hacking attacks skillfully combined the insertion of hundreds of bots in American social media, software programmed to reinforce the Moscow propaganda by causing thousands of Americans to be duped into repeating it. From there, things get more sinister because we know that various websites such as Breitbart News Daily and media outlets like Fox News and even the Trump campaign itself, took fake news stories directly off Russian TV and news media and circulated them across America.

In a paper thin election, the massive effort of the Russian government to sway voters away from one candidate and to the other appears to have been decisive. Collaboration by the Trump campaign would be a felony violation of US election laws.
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Russia did it. :lol:
Your map ^^^ is misleading, perhaps deliberately so. Presidents aren't elected by county. Put up a map by popular vote and EC vote and ponder the contrast.
Suck it George.

All that trust fund money and you're still miserable. Trump isn't going anywhere. He'll be in the White house for at least the next 4 years. And if you guys keep going down these dead ends, he'll be there for 8.



Carry on. Please.
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I'm actually kinda sorta ok with Trump winning.
Sometimes the voters need a good kick in the azz.
This is doing that.

They were stupid enough to put the worst possible choice in the hottest seat on the planet. Now we won't have to guess what can happen when we do that. We will be able to refer back to the day we did exactly that and account for every blunder he makes.
It will make the voter more conscious of what it is they are doing when they vote.

I am especially happy to see so many of Trumps voting supporters getting screwed over as they lose their insurance, lose their rights and lose their dignity trying to defend the guy.

It's like a gift from history making heaven.


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Quoting limited to 5 levels deepYa, maybe. Didn't change the Election outcome anyway. Not a single vote was flipped.



The US does a lot more than "meddling" in Elections all over the world. Hypocrite!....enjoy the next 8 years.The US does 10x that around the world. All the time.


Trump beat Hillary. The Russians nor CNN could change that. Not even Obama spying on Trump. :lol:
Well, the election wasn't that simple. Hillary beat Trump by almost 3,000,000 votes in the popular count. Trump won in the Electoral College because of a margin of less than 1% in three critical swing state. The results were decided by a tiny margin in favor of the candidate who got millions fewer votes over-all. The number of voters needed to be swung to Trump for him to win in the EC was relatively tiny.

It is in this context that the massive, well organized and well-financed campaign of fake scandals and fake news conducted by 1,000,000 professional hackers working out of Russia needs to be considered. Their hacking attacks skillfully combined the insertion of hundreds of bots in American social media, software programmed to reinforce the Moscow propaganda by causing thousands of Americans to be duped into repeating it. From there, things get more sinister because we know that various websites such as Breitbart News Daily and media outlets like Fox News and even the Trump campaign itself, took fake news stories directly off Russian TV and news media and circulated them across America.

In a paper thin election, the massive effort of the Russian government to sway voters away from one candidate and to the other appears to have been decisive. Collaboration by the Trump campaign would be a felony violation of US election laws.
Posted Image

Russia did it. :lol:
Your map ^^^ is misleading, perhaps deliberately so. Presidents aren't elected by county. Put up a map by popular vote and EC vote and ponder the contrast.
Suck it George.

All that trust fund money and you're still miserable. Trump isn't going anywhere. He'll be in the White house for at least the next 4 years. And if you guys keep going down these dead ends, he'll be there for 8.



Carry on. Please.
Your vulgar insult and personal attack only show that you don't understand the topic and can't rebut the obvious fact that your map is irrelevant "fake news". Childish posting of film clips only adds to the pathetic appearance your put up. I'm very disappointed in you.
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Imagine being so convinced Hillary was a good candidate you have to invent some global-scale conspiracy in order to explain how she lost.

Because come on man, Hillary had everything: the vision, the charm, the proven track record of integrity! The ONLY explanation for her loss is RUSSIAN TRICKERY!
Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence.
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Apr 4 2017, 04:28 PM
I'm actually kinda sorta ok with Trump winning.
Sometimes the voters need a good kick in the azz.
This is doing that.

They were stupid enough to put the worst possible choice in the hottest seat on the planet. Now we won't have to guess what can happen when we do that. We will be able to refer back to the day we did exactly that and account for every blunder he makes.
It will make the voter more conscious of what it is they are doing when they vote.

I am especially happy to see so many of Trumps voting supporters getting screwed over as they lose their insurance, lose their rights and lose their dignity trying to defend the guy.

It's like a gift from history making heaven.
Who has lost their insurance because of Trump? Millions did under Obama

Who have lost their rights under Trump?

Other than the whacked out libs who has lost their dignity under Trump...? Rhetorical questions....

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No question CNN and MSNBC were "in the tank" (biased) and 100% against a Presidential candidate...

Donald Trump is the victim of corporate media "meddling" (on a scale not seen in the U S before)
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Imagine being so convinced Hillary was a good candidate you have to invent some global-scale conspiracy in order to explain how she lost.

Because come on man, Hillary had everything: the vision, the charm, the proven track record of integrity! The ONLY explanation for her loss is RUSSIAN TRICKERY!
The unanimous conclusion of US intelligence agencies that Russia was actively involved in the outcome of the presidential election isn't based on an assessment of the skill of the Clinton campaign. That isn't how our intelligence agencies do their job. To think that a significant attack on the US by a foreign power would be dismissed as mere partisan tactics is amazing.
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Apr 4 2017, 05:20 PM
Imagine being so convinced Hillary was a good candidate you have to invent some global-scale conspiracy in order to explain how she lost.

Because come on man, Hillary had everything: the vision, the charm, the proven track record of integrity! The ONLY explanation for her loss is RUSSIAN TRICKERY!
The unanimous conclusion of US intelligence agencies that Russia was actively involved in the outcome of the presidential election isn't based on an assessment of the skill of the Clinton campaign. That isn't how our intelligence agencies do their job. To think that a significant attack on the US by a foreign power would be dismissed as mere partisan tactics is amazing.
George, Russia meddles into Elections all over the world, as does the US, as does every major 1st world country on the planet.


Only the USA has the power to actually throw an election. Hillary would have lost no matter what.


Edited by Robertr2000, Apr 4 2017, 06:47 PM.
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Quoting limited to 5 levels deepAny evidence there is is still within the scope of the investigation and thus..evidence is not available to the public until it is presented in a report, hearing or trial.
As much as the narrative of the "left" is speculation, so it is speculation on your narrative regarding Trump administration's innocence.
Innocent until proven guilty. A valid sentiment though dubiously hollow coming from you, Mr. " I believe every half baked accusation/conspiracy I see on the internet about Obama by virtue of me being 'awake' ".Oh that's rich coming from you Flat-Earther.
I am not a flat earther,
The only person on this site that talks about it is you. A Flat-Earther.
I talk about it because I find it weird that people actually believe it.
There is a guy on my FB feed. He pretty much has pushed the same CTs that you have over the years
Recently , he latched onto the flat earth thing, spamming with youtube videos with "proof"
and referring people who believe that we live on a round planet as "sheeple" and globe gobblers.

All your CT homies seem to be jumping on this. I am curious as to why to avoid discussing it.
Have you "researched" this at all?
Who believes it?


I mean whats the point of talking about it If you yourself or no one here believes it? Unless..... You do indeed believe it and are testing the waters.
:box: :lol:
If believing that makes you feel better, then knock yourself out.
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No question CNN and MSNBC were "in the tank" (biased) and 100% against a Presidential candidate...

Donald Trump is the victim of corporate media "meddling" (on a scale not seen in the U S before)
The liberal media actually never stopped investigative reporting. They just now reassigned 107 reporters from Wasilla Alaska to Mar-a-Lago.
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Imagine being so convinced Hillary was a good candidate you have to invent some global-scale conspiracy in order to explain how she lost.

Because come on man, Hillary had everything: the vision, the charm, the proven track record of integrity! The ONLY explanation for her loss is RUSSIAN TRICKERY!
The unanimous conclusion of US intelligence agencies that Russia was actively involved in the outcome of the presidential election isn't based on an assessment of the skill of the Clinton campaign. That isn't how our intelligence agencies do their job. To think that a significant attack on the US by a foreign power would be dismissed as mere partisan tactics is amazing.
George, Russia meddles into Elections all over the world, as does the US, as does every major 1st world country on the planet.


Only the USA has the power to actually throw an election. Hillary would have lost no matter what.


I agree with you that the US and other nations meddle in elections around the word. The point is not without moral significance but, as you know, it has no legal weight. "Politics ain't beanbag" and it certainly isn't Sunday school either. After what the Democrats have put up with over the past eight years, they are in no mood to approach the Trump administration high mindedly. I'm just sitting in the balcony and getting ready to watch the show. What else can any of us do?

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Quoting limited to 5 levels deepYa, maybe. Didn't change the Election outcome anyway. Not a single vote was flipped.



The US does a lot more than "meddling" in Elections all over the world. Hypocrite!....enjoy the next 8 years.
There is still no actual hard evidence that the Waskily Wussians did anything.
Apart from some electronic signatures that some hacker in outback Australia could have used.
And with what is coming out, it could have been Obarmy's CIA. :booboo:
No, that train left the station a long time ago. The US has enough evidence that even the stalwarts in Congress who have been briefed now admit that the Russians were actively trying to affect our election to the benefit of Trump.

There was a report released that presented what they could in the open. There is much more that is still classified.
The US does 10x that around the world. All the time.


Trump beat Hillary. The Russians nor CNN could change that. Not even Obama spying on Trump. :lol:
Well, the election wasn't that simple. Hillary beat Trump by almost 3,000,000 votes in the popular count. Trump won in the Electoral College because of a margin of less than 1% in three critical swing state. The results were decided by a tiny margin in favor of the candidate who got millions fewer votes over-all. The number of voters needed to be swung to Trump for him to win in the EC was relatively tiny.

It is in this context that the massive, well organized and well-financed campaign of fake scandals and fake news conducted by 1,000,000 professional hackers working out of Russia needs to be considered. Their hacking attacks skillfully combined the insertion of hundreds of bots in American social media, software programmed to reinforce the Moscow propaganda by causing thousands of Americans to be duped into repeating it. From there, things get more sinister because we know that various websites such as Breitbart News Daily and media outlets like Fox News and even the Trump campaign itself, took fake news stories directly off Russian TV and news media and circulated them across America.

In a paper thin election, the massive effort of the Russian government to sway voters away from one candidate and to the other appears to have been decisive. Collaboration by the Trump campaign would be a felony violation of US election laws.
I am forever grateful to the 1,000,000 Russian hackers who swung the election to Trump....Without their dedicated , hard work your Hillary would be our President today....................... :love:
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Edited by Robert Stout, Apr 5 2017, 01:39 AM.
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Abraham Lincoln received only 40 percent of the popular vote, and he turned out alright.
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Sure - because Hillary would have started WW3.

Still doesn't mean that anything illegal happened and the content of Wikileaks was certainly legitimate.
Two things for which you have absolutely nothing but your opinion to bolster, Mr. "You have no evidence".

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Are you saying that Hillary did not support a no-fly zone over Syria? Are you ready to backup that position? Because it isn't based in reality.

Hillary was more a neo-con or neo-lib, a warmonger.

We also have the hostile behavior towards Russia, by Democrats based on no evidence.

any of those things could provoke a hot war with a nuclear power.
Where did I say Hillary did not support a no-fly-zone?

You really are off the deep end, aren't you?

an what would be the result of a no fly zone in Syria, with Russia allied with Assad?

Seriously wtf man ....
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Imagine being so convinced Hillary was a good candidate you have to invent some global-scale conspiracy in order to explain how she lost.

Because come on man, Hillary had everything: the vision, the charm, the proven track record of integrity! The ONLY explanation for her loss is RUSSIAN TRICKERY!
The unanimous conclusion of US intelligence agencies that Russia was actively involved in the outcome of the presidential election isn't based on an assessment of the skill of the Clinton campaign. That isn't how our intelligence agencies do their job. To think that a significant attack on the US by a foreign power would be dismissed as mere partisan tactics is amazing.
George, Russia meddles into Elections all over the world, as does the US, as does every major 1st world country on the planet.


Only the USA has the power to actually throw an election. Hillary would have lost no matter what.


I agree with you that the US and other nations meddle in elections around the word. The point is not without moral significance but, as you know, it has no legal weight. "Politics ain't beanbag" and it certainly isn't Sunday school either. After what the Democrats have put up with over the past eight years, they are in no mood to approach the Trump administration high mindedly. I'm just sitting in the balcony and getting ready to watch the show. What else can any of us do?

What can you do?

Let.

It.

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Quoting limited to 5 levels deepYa, maybe. Didn't change the Election outcome anyway. Not a single vote was flipped.



The US does a lot more than "meddling" in Elections all over the world. Hypocrite!....enjoy the next 8 years.
No, that train left the station a long time ago. The US has enough evidence that even the stalwarts in Congress who have been briefed now admit that the Russians were actively trying to affect our election to the benefit of Trump.

There was a report released that presented what they could in the open. There is much more that is still classified.
The US does 10x that around the world. All the time.


Trump beat Hillary. The Russians nor CNN could change that. Not even Obama spying on Trump. :lol:
Well, the election wasn't that simple. Hillary beat Trump by almost 3,000,000 votes in the popular count. Trump won in the Electoral College because of a margin of less than 1% in three critical swing state. The results were decided by a tiny margin in favor of the candidate who got millions fewer votes over-all. The number of voters needed to be swung to Trump for him to win in the EC was relatively tiny.

It is in this context that the massive, well organized and well-financed campaign of fake scandals and fake news conducted by 1,000,000 professional hackers working out of Russia needs to be considered. Their hacking attacks skillfully combined the insertion of hundreds of bots in American social media, software programmed to reinforce the Moscow propaganda by causing thousands of Americans to be duped into repeating it. From there, things get more sinister because we know that various websites such as Breitbart News Daily and media outlets like Fox News and even the Trump campaign itself, took fake news stories directly off Russian TV and news media and circulated them across America.

In a paper thin election, the massive effort of the Russian government to sway voters away from one candidate and to the other appears to have been decisive. Collaboration by the Trump campaign would be a felony violation of US election laws.
I am forever grateful to the 1,000,000 Russian hackers who swung the election to Trump....Without their dedicated , hard work your Hillary would be our President today....................... :love:
Indeed!
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