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U.S. Launches Missiles at Syrian Base After Chemical Weapons Attack
Topic Started: Apr 6 2017, 09:20 PM (2,636 Views)
jake58

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Apr 7 2017, 09:58 PM
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Apr 7 2017, 09:51 PM

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepI believe that Trump is attempting to get them to sort out their own problems with minimal US involvement.
I don't believe killing a war criminal is a war crime. We went after Ghaddafi as I recall for actions against American forces. Really, who's going to be pissed off other than the Russians and only because he is supposedly under their protection.
If you had studied history you would know of the obstacles that FDR went through before authorizing the US hit on Admiral Yomoto
So let's really get Russia directly involved in it, shall we? that's WW3.
This limited strike only showed intent to resolve a problem.
So, the Yamamoto hit wasn't a war crime, huh? Thanks for making my point.

Russia is not going to start WW3 over Assad, do you sleep with a night light?

They resolved nothing. Assad is still free to keep killing his own people.
The Admiral Yamamoto hit wasn't a war crime, because he wasn't the head of government, that's the point.
Russia is not going to start WW3 over Assad? you're probably right?
But why throw more wood on the fire?
A show of force is the first step to encourage diplomacy.
I'm reminded a lot of the Cuban Missile Crisis here.
The stage is set, now the backroom diplomacy kicks in, perfect timing for our Sec. of state to visit Russia, you think?
well, why did you bring Yamamoto up then?

If you think putting a few holes in a tarmac is a show of force... and didn't the Syrians just fly out of there today??? - then I'd suggest you don't know what a show of force is. And for someone who studied history, there is zero correlation to the Cuban Missile Crisis.

I don't know what Tillerson's going to tell them that he couldn't point out over the phone but whatever... I really doubt there is going to be any back room negotiating here. Russia said they would control Syria's chem weapon stockpile(2013)... they failed to do so. Actions have repercussions, I would just have liked to have seen a more serious response if indeed they decided it was worthy of a response.
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When we and Assad are fighting ISIS, is it good military science to attack our ally ???...Our Generals have bigger fish to fry with this action....They hope to restart the Cold War with Russia to boost the budgets of the military-industrial complex...No one really cares about a few dozen gassed Syrians............... :oyvey
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nNeo

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Apr 7 2017, 11:07 PM
Liar. Islam did not come on the Mayflower or even Ellis Island.
Liar. I never claimed it did.
There were many Muslims living in America in the 20th century. They were not terrorists.
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Apr 7 2017, 11:12 PM
Our Generals have bigger fish to fry with this action....They hope to restart the Cold War with Russia to boost the budgets of the military-industrial complex...No one really cares about a few dozen gassed Syrians.
I'd like to say you are wrong, but that makes as much sense as anything. Trump and Putin both look like tough guys at home without actually fighting directly. Defense contractors in make out, oil flows, and Syrians get blown up... oh well?
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Apr 7 2017, 11:18 PM
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Liar. Islam did not come on the Mayflower or even Ellis Island.
Liar. I never claimed it did.
There were many Muslims living in America in the 20th century. They were not terrorists.
They were not 0.1% of the population until the 1965 immigration act and you know it.
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Apr 7 2017, 10:54 PM
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there are Muslims there... might be just a matter of time.
There were Muslims here for generations, none of whom committed terrorist acts.
yeah, it was a matter of time...
No. Not even close. Millions of peaceful American Muslims. Zero terrorism. The "bad guys" came much later, from outside, and (from their perspective) in response to US policy.
The US was literally stealing their oil in the 30s, 40s, 50s and I believe Mossadegh was ousted in '53... what US policy are we talking about here? I can't believe Hughmac isn't here for this...
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Apr 7 2017, 11:21 PM
They were not 0.1% of the population until the 1965 immigration act and you know it.
They were not terrorists.
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Apr 7 2017, 11:26 PM
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They were not 0.1% of the population until the 1965 immigration act and you know it.
They were not terrorists.
They are terrorists now because many were allowed to enter this county. Japan prohibited this freedom of movement and thus has been free of Islamic terrorism- that is an indisputable fact.
Edited by Harambe4Trump, Apr 7 2017, 11:31 PM.
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there are Muslims there... might be just a matter of time.
There were Muslims here for generations, none of whom committed terrorist acts.
yeah, it was a matter of time...
No. Not even close. Millions of peaceful American Muslims. Zero terrorism. The "bad guys" came much later, from outside, and (from their perspective) in response to US policy.
The US was literally stealing their oil in the 30s, 40s, 50s and I believe Mossadegh was ousted in '53... what US policy are we talking about here? I can't believe Hughmac isn't here for this...
The policy of allowing them to move here and acquire citizenship.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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yeah, it was a matter of time...
No. Not even close. Millions of peaceful American Muslims. Zero terrorism. The "bad guys" came much later, from outside, and (from their perspective) in response to US policy.
The US was literally stealing their oil in the 30s, 40s, 50s and I believe Mossadegh was ousted in '53... what US policy are we talking about here? I can't believe Hughmac isn't here for this...
The policy of allowing them to move here and acquire citizenship.
really dude, you're over 10,000 posts now and you only say one thing... even CT breaks it up talking about his banjo about every 6 weeks or so
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Apr 7 2017, 11:34 PM
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Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
No. Not even close. Millions of peaceful American Muslims. Zero terrorism. The "bad guys" came much later, from outside, and (from their perspective) in response to US policy.
The US was literally stealing their oil in the 30s, 40s, 50s and I believe Mossadegh was ousted in '53... what US policy are we talking about here? I can't believe Hughmac isn't here for this...
The policy of allowing them to move here and acquire citizenship.
really dude, you're over 10,000 posts now and you only say one thing... even CT breaks it up talking about his banjo about every 6 weeks or so
Lucky for me I have the truth, however cold and unpleasant that may be. They harsh truth revealted itself again today in Sweden and will do so elsewhere soon enough. You know deep in your heart that I am right.
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Apr 7 2017, 11:02 PM
Admiral Yamamoto being shot down over Bougainville, was the direct result of liberal actions that day. :hooray:
FDR was Great Democrat President, so was JFK, but in their era, they could be more center of LW or RW.
But "Liberal" as it means today?
In your dreams. :booboo:
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nNeo

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Apr 7 2017, 11:29 PM
They are terrorists now because many were allowed to enter this county.
That's true of Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik, but who else? The Little Rock shooter converted here, the Tsarnaevs were radicalized here, Zale Thompson and Alton Nolen were not immigrants and also recent converts.

There were at least a million Muslims in the US by 1970. I don't recall any Jihadist terrorism in the 1970s, 80s, or early 90s. The WTC bombing in '93 was by foreign nationals with a forged passports. No problems from Muslim US citizens through most of the 20th century.

The Jihadist movement has emerged since the 1990s. I'm all for keeping them out, but we can't build a wall against ideas, or cut ourselves off from the world. Understanding where they are coming from and why is essential. It's not just "Muslims". It's a very specific kind.
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The harsh facts of life.
If the Middle Eastern population didn't live on top of a world commodity, then all the world's Nations would have long ago just ignored them.
And just let them kill each other.
Home grown genocide.

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Apr 7 2017, 10:28 PM
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There hasn't been a single act of Islamic terrorism in Japan. If you support bringing these people in you are an internal enemy.
Not yet, no, but there are Muslims there... might be just a matter of time.
No. The Japanese elite doesn't depise its history and heritage.
They should despise their history, they've done all they could to erase the Rape of Nanking from their History textbooks as well as the abuction and forced sexual servitude of Korean women as "pillow girls" to the Japanese Occupation Arm in Korea.
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Apr 7 2017, 11:29 PM
They are terrorists now because many were allowed to enter this county.
That's true of Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik, but who else? The Little Rock shooter converted here, the Tsarnaevs were radicalized here, Zale Thompson and Alton Nolen were not immigrants and also recent converts.

There were at least a million Muslims in the US by 1970. I don't recall any Jihadist terrorism in the 1970s, 80s, or early 90s. The WTC bombing in '93 was by foreign nationals with a forged passports. No problems from Muslim US citizens through most of the 20th century.

The Jihadist movement has emerged since the 1990s. I'm all for keeping them out, but we can't build a wall against ideas, or cut ourselves off from the world. Understanding where they are coming from and why is essential. It's not just "Muslims". It's a very specific kind.
The Tsarnaevs should have been permitted to enter this country. Fewer Islamic immigrants would have resulted in fewer converts.

Show your source that there 1 M Muslims here in 1970.

The 1993 bombing is another example of importing terrorism.
Edited by Harambe4Trump, Apr 8 2017, 12:10 AM.
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There hasn't been a single act of Islamic terrorism in Japan. If you support bringing these people in you are an internal enemy.
Not yet, no, but there are Muslims there... might be just a matter of time.
No. The Japanese elite doesn't depise its history and heritage.
They should despise their history, they've done all they could to erase the Rape of Nanking from their History textbooks as well as the abuction and forced sexual servitude of Korean women as "pillow girls" to the Japanese Occupation Arm in Korea.
They aren't effete self-loathing white progressives. They have a future.
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Apr 7 2017, 11:23 PM
The US was literally stealing their oil in the 30s, 40s, 50s and I believe Mossadegh was ousted in '53... what US policy are we talking about here?
Hugh would be fun, yeah.

Ramzi Yousef and Osama bin Laden both specifically gave their reasons for attacking the US:

US military action in the middle east, permanent bases, and support of dictatorships there.
US military and financial support for Israel, who they perceived as occupying Palestine and Syria illegally, and oppressing Arabs.

I'm not trying to justify their actions, just explain them. They don't "hate us for our freedom". They aren't trying to convert us. It's not some inherently Muslim trait to travel half way around the world to blow someone up. From their perspective, we came to their back yards and effed things up.

"The American people must know, that their civilians who got killed are not better than those who are getting killed by the American weapons and support. The American people are responsible for the actions of their government and they must question all of the crimes that their government is committing against other people"
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Apr 8 2017, 12:12 AM
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Apr 7 2017, 11:23 PM
The US was literally stealing their oil in the 30s, 40s, 50s and I believe Mossadegh was ousted in '53... what US policy are we talking about here?
Hugh would be fun, yeah.

Ramzi Yousef and Osama bin Laden both specifically gave their reasons for attacking the US:

US military action in the middle east, permanent bases, and support of dictatorships there.
US military and financial support for Israel, who they perceived as occupying Palestine and Syria illegally, and oppressing Arabs.

I'm not trying to justify their actions, just explain them. They don't "hate us for our freedom". They aren't trying to convert us. It's not some inherently Muslim trait to travel half way around the world to blow someone up. From their perspective, we came to their back yards and effed things up.

"The American people must know, that their civilians who got killed are not better than those who are getting killed by the American weapons and support. The American people are responsible for the actions of their government and they must question all of the crimes that their government is committing against other people"
They hate us because we are weak and ready to die.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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nNeo

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If the Middle Eastern population didn't live on top of a world commodity, then all the world's Nations would have long ago just ignored them.
And just let them kill each other.
Sounds like a good reason to develop renewables and get off oil.
Edited by nNeo, Apr 8 2017, 12:13 AM.
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