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U.S. Launches Missiles at Syrian Base After Chemical Weapons Attack
Topic Started: Apr 6 2017, 09:20 PM (2,635 Views)
nNeo

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Apr 8 2017, 12:12 AM
They hate us because we are weak and ready to die.
They don't give a damn what we do here. It's what we do there.

Again, not justifying it, but bombing country after country and overthrowing governments as it suits us has repercussions.
“Strong people don’t need strong leaders.”
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nNeo
Apr 8 2017, 12:14 AM
Harambe4Trump
Apr 8 2017, 12:12 AM
They hate us because we are weak and ready to die.
They don't give a damn what we do here. It's what we do there.

Again, not justifying it, but bombing country after country and overthrowing governments as it suits us has repercussions.
You're the one who opposed the America First Message, not I. Charles Lindbergh was right and Woodrow Wilson was a traitor.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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Apr 8 2017, 12:11 AM
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Apr 8 2017, 12:06 AM
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Apr 7 2017, 10:28 PM
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Apr 7 2017, 10:26 PM
Harambe4Trump
Apr 7 2017, 10:23 PM
There hasn't been a single act of Islamic terrorism in Japan. If you support bringing these people in you are an internal enemy.
Not yet, no, but there are Muslims there... might be just a matter of time.
No. The Japanese elite doesn't depise its history and heritage.
They should despise their history, they've done all they could to erase the Rape of Nanking from their History textbooks as well as the abuction and forced sexual servitude of Korean women as "pillow girls" to the Japanese Occupation Arm in Korea.
They aren't effete self-loathing white progressives. They have a future.
Different times.
Different Circumstances.
The Japanese society is built on an honor code.
They are embarrassed by their past.
But they have now become assimilated with the world and just want to move on.
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Apr 8 2017, 12:20 AM
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Apr 8 2017, 12:11 AM
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Apr 8 2017, 12:06 AM
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Apr 7 2017, 10:28 PM
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Apr 7 2017, 10:26 PM

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No. The Japanese elite doesn't depise its history and heritage.
They should despise their history, they've done all they could to erase the Rape of Nanking from their History textbooks as well as the abuction and forced sexual servitude of Korean women as "pillow girls" to the Japanese Occupation Arm in Korea.
They aren't effete self-loathing white progressives. They have a future.
Different times.
Different Circumstances.
The Japanese society is built on an honor code.
They are embarrassed by their past.
But they have now become assimilated with the world and just want to move on.
No. The Japanese are not embarrassed about their past a la your typical self loathing white progressive democrat who despises his ancestors for forging a civilization in the wilderness. The Japanese are quite proud at creating their splendid technological and economic miracle.


Please do tell me when Japan had Islamic terror.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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nNeo

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Apr 8 2017, 12:16 AM
You're the one who opposed the America First Message, not I.
I've been a non-interventionist longer than you've been alive.
“Strong people don’t need strong leaders.”
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For that matter, when has Korea suffered jihadist attacks? How many Syrian refugees or Somali turd worlders now live in Seoul? Very few. Koreans aren't ashamed of their culture or history and as a result, their capital remains Korean. However, London is no longer English.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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nNeo
Apr 8 2017, 12:25 AM
Harambe4Trump
Apr 8 2017, 12:16 AM
You're the one who opposed the America First Message, not I.
I've been a non-interventionist longer than you've been alive.
Yeah, you just support open borders immigration and nonsensical free trade. I'm calling BS.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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nNeo
Apr 8 2017, 12:25 AM
Harambe4Trump
Apr 8 2017, 12:16 AM
You're the one who opposed the America First Message, not I.
I've been a non-interventionist longer than you've been alive.
We've been dabbling directly in the Middle East for two Presidential administrations now, and have nothing of lasting value to show for it. It's way past time for us to wash our hands of the whole thing and walk away.
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The Koreans and Japanese have a future. Americans and Europeans don't.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
#MAGA
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nNeo

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Apr 8 2017, 12:27 AM
you just support open borders immigration
I do not. Refer to multiple debates on the old board. I recall you and I on the same side against Whig and someone else, on that very issue, more than once.

I am against Trump's wall, specifically, as ineffective and over-priced. I have never been in favour of open borders or unrestricted immigration. I am opposed to blanket bans based only on nationality or religion. Individual vetting is appropriate.
Edited by nNeo, Apr 8 2017, 12:35 AM.
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nNeo
Apr 8 2017, 12:34 AM
Harambe4Trump
Apr 8 2017, 12:27 AM
you just support open borders immigration
I do not. Refer to multiple debates on the old board. I recall you and I on the same side against Whig and someone else, on that very issue, more than once.

I am against Trump's wall, specifically, as ineffective and over-priced. I have never been in favour of open borders or unrestricted immigration. I am opposed to blanket bans based only on nationality or religion. Individual vetting is appropriate.
Blanket bans worked quite well under the 1924 quota act.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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nNeo

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Apr 8 2017, 12:27 AM
We've been dabbling directly in the Middle East for two Presidential administrations now, and have nothing of lasting value to show for it. It's way past time for us to wash our hands of the whole thing and walk away.
Except now it's much harder to do. So much has been destabilized there's more risk to just walking away.

It's funny that the people who were accusing me of being a traitor for opposing the invasion of Iraq are now all jumping on the bandwagon -- not meaning you -- I know you've had that view for a while.
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Harambe4Trump
Apr 8 2017, 12:23 AM
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Apr 8 2017, 12:20 AM
Harambe4Trump
Apr 8 2017, 12:11 AM
Tsalagi
Apr 8 2017, 12:06 AM
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Apr 7 2017, 10:28 PM

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They should despise their history, they've done all they could to erase the Rape of Nanking from their History textbooks as well as the abuction and forced sexual servitude of Korean women as "pillow girls" to the Japanese Occupation Arm in Korea.
They aren't effete self-loathing white progressives. They have a future.
Different times.
Different Circumstances.
The Japanese society is built on an honor code.
They are embarrassed by their past.
But they have now become assimilated with the world and just want to move on.
No. The Japanese are not embarrassed about their past a la your typical self loathing white progressive democrat who despises his ancestors for forging a civilization in the wilderness. The Japanese are quite proud at creating their splendid technological and economic miracle.


Please do tell me when Japan had Islamic terror.
Hey don't shoot the messenger.
I'm neither Liberal or Democrat.
My Grandfather died as a Japanese POW.
I was just trying add some understanding of the Japanese "Shinto" at the time, to your post.
Different times.
:cheers:

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The Inquisitor
Apr 8 2017, 12:42 AM
Harambe4Trump
Apr 8 2017, 12:23 AM
The Inquisitor
Apr 8 2017, 12:20 AM
Harambe4Trump
Apr 8 2017, 12:11 AM
Tsalagi
Apr 8 2017, 12:06 AM

Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
They aren't effete self-loathing white progressives. They have a future.
Different times.
Different Circumstances.
The Japanese society is built on an honor code.
They are embarrassed by their past.
But they have now become assimilated with the world and just want to move on.
No. The Japanese are not embarrassed about their past a la your typical self loathing white progressive democrat who despises his ancestors for forging a civilization in the wilderness. The Japanese are quite proud at creating their splendid technological and economic miracle.


Please do tell me when Japan had Islamic terror.
Hey don't shoot the messenger.
I'm neither Liberal or Democrat.
My Grandfather died as a Japanese POW.
I was just trying add some understanding of the Japanese "Shinto" at the time, to your post.
Different times.
:cheers:

Cool. The Japanese were even atom bombed. They don't mope around full of self-righteous self hatred at the successful country their ancestors built a la Sweden Canada. No, Tokyo remains Japanese and free of Islamic terrorism or Mexican Narco gangs because their government has not betrayed their people in the name of cheap labor. Most Western Capital cities are occupied territory,
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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Quite literally, Tokyo was burnt to the ground. Yet, their descendants will speak Japanese while the future Parisians will speak Arabic. They have the will to live. America and Europe don't.
Edited by Harambe4Trump, Apr 8 2017, 12:50 AM.
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Harambe4Trump
Apr 8 2017, 12:49 AM
Quite literally, Tokyo was burnt to the ground. Yet, their descendants will speak Japanese while the future Parisians will speak Arabic. They have the will to live. America and Europe don't.
Not keen on your doom and gloom.
Tokyo wasn't actually all burnt to the ground,3/4 maybe.
Tokyo was the choice of target for the bomb, but MacArthur had the fore site to keep the Emperor alive to help with the peace.
Tojo took the long drop for the Emperor.
Japan has a very strict immigration policy.
That's the Key
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Apr 7 2017, 06:35 PM
Siberian
Apr 7 2017, 04:35 PM
frankly saying I personally am a little tired of this clownade, when the US for its domestic entertainment plays with fire and life of millions of people....
If I was Putin I would just launch a dozen of nuclear missiles to some Australia, as retaliation of its participation of occupation of Russia during our civil war :) , not to start WWIII immediately but to make the US behave adult and in a responsible way :)
I just wonder if Putin is as weak as I think or just waits for proper moment to teach Trump a lesson, it is an interesting question....
unfortunatelly I tend to think he's weak. anyway, either way if collision with the US intensifies he will have to either fight or will be replaced by real patriots.
Putin and Trump are partners in this.
It's a stage show, like Cats or Mama Mia.

No, the US is an oligarchy ruled by the establishment, a US president is a puppet which obeys to big corporations and the political establishment. Now we very clearly see that even if you obey only to corporations, like Trump, and challenge political establishment - very soon such a president is subdued and has to do what the establishment wants (division on democrats and republicans is a fake, to fool zombies that the US is a democracy). Kennedy was killed, din't forget it.
So, we here and Putun perfectly understands the limits a US president can afard himself, for some time Putin was valuing even these small possible thaw whuch is available within limits of US president's authority, but as I said before - the consession to make the deal a part of which undermines Russian veto power in the UN SC - this consession must be really HUGE, it is sumply impossible right now and in general too.
So, no, no deal is possible now in Syria. Putin faces a real challenge and response will be real - a defeat or fight , I am very interested what Putin will choose. :)
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Apr 7 2017, 07:30 PM
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Apr 6 2017, 09:25 PM
This is rather sudden, and Trump didn't coordinate any action with the Russians, who might very well have been manning posts at either of the two bases we hit tonite.

Well.....there went the 'non-intervention" policy out the window
An update. He did notify the Russians and they (and most Syrians) pulled out of the target zone.
The missiles did little damage to the concrete airstrip and probably only to broken down aircraft.
I saw in the news that the airstrip is back in service today.
I wonder if this is reported in US news - there is a US-Russia protocol of avoidance of incidents, which demanded both sides to inform the other one of any actions in Syria. If the US did not want its strike to start WWIII the US had to inform us in advance. And knowing there were Russian pilots and staff the US military preferred to limit possibility of WWIII to reasonable level :)
Tales, do you insist it was a deal? A genuine right strike would do what?
By the way, Russia suspended participation in that protocol, it means we now may fire at any target in Syrian sky.
Edited by Siberian, Apr 8 2017, 02:20 AM.
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Harambe4Trump
Apr 8 2017, 12:12 AM
nNeo
Apr 8 2017, 12:12 AM
jake58
Apr 7 2017, 11:23 PM
The US was literally stealing their oil in the 30s, 40s, 50s and I believe Mossadegh was ousted in '53... what US policy are we talking about here?
Hugh would be fun, yeah.

Ramzi Yousef and Osama bin Laden both specifically gave their reasons for attacking the US:

US military action in the middle east, permanent bases, and support of dictatorships there.
US military and financial support for Israel, who they perceived as occupying Palestine and Syria illegally, and oppressing Arabs.

I'm not trying to justify their actions, just explain them. They don't "hate us for our freedom". They aren't trying to convert us. It's not some inherently Muslim trait to travel half way around the world to blow someone up. From their perspective, we came to their back yards and effed things up.

"The American people must know, that their civilians who got killed are not better than those who are getting killed by the American weapons and support. The American people are responsible for the actions of their government and they must question all of the crimes that their government is committing against other people"
They hate us because we are weak and ready to die.
We are not ready to die, but Europeans are just so easy to kill............... :biggrin:
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Siberian
Apr 8 2017, 02:18 AM
CautionaryTales
Apr 7 2017, 07:30 PM
Tsalagi
Apr 6 2017, 09:25 PM
This is rather sudden, and Trump didn't coordinate any action with the Russians, who might very well have been manning posts at either of the two bases we hit tonite.

Well.....there went the 'non-intervention" policy out the window
An update. He did notify the Russians and they (and most Syrians) pulled out of the target zone.
The missiles did little damage to the concrete airstrip and probably only to broken down aircraft.
I saw in the news that the airstrip is back in service today.
I wonder if this is reported in US news - there is a US-Russia protocol of avoidance of incidents, which demanded both sides to inform the other one of any actions in Syria. If the US did not want its strike to start WWIII the US had to inform us in advance. And knowing there were Russian pilots and staff the US military preferred to limit possibility of WWIII to reasonable level :)
Tales, do you insist it was a deal? A genuine right strike would do what?
By the way, Russia suspended participation in that protocol, it means we now may fire at any target in Syrian sky.
Russia could empty the skies over Syria of all UFOs with its advanced antiaircraft missiles....Our Generals primary goal is to restart the Cold War with Russia...They don't give a sh*t about a few dozen gassed Syrians................ :popcorn:
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