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Forget the ‘mother of all bombs,’ meet the Russian-made ‘daddy’
Topic Started: Apr 15 2017, 04:02 AM (328 Views)
Siberian
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The US boasts that its GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb (MOAB), known as the ‘Mother of all bombs’, is the largest ever non-nuclear bomb used in combat but, don’t be fooled, Russia possess something far superior. Kids, meet Daddy.

https://www.rt.com/viral/384743-moab-russia-father-bomb/
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Hughmac

Siberian
Apr 15 2017, 04:02 AM
The US boasts that its GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb (MOAB), known as the ‘Mother of all bombs’, is the largest ever non-nuclear bomb used in combat but, don’t be fooled, Russia possess something far superior. Kids, meet Daddy.

https://www.rt.com/viral/384743-moab-russia-father-bomb/
Interesting article, Mr Tundra :tongue:

Saw an excellent documentary on the Soviet MIR, which predated the International Space Station and paved the way for long-term space stays. Indeed, without the Soviet experience and knowledge, the ISS would not have been possible.

It is sad, in a way, that in exchange for American funding of the Russian space programme, after the collapse of the USSR, Moscow had to hand over, lock, stock and barrel, this priceless knowledge.

In fact, it is a little like the British being left no other alternative but to hand over, free of charge, all its scientific advancement to the USA, who were lacking in these fields (radar, etc) in exchange for war aid.

Cheers
Hughmac
Edited by Hughmac, Apr 15 2017, 05:04 AM.
H4T wrote: lobal] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies.
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These gas bombs were invented by the USA during the Vietnam war, to clear jungles for helicopter landings ................ :)
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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Hughmac

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Apr 15 2017, 07:01 AM
These gas bombs were invented by the USA during the Vietnam war, to clear jungles for helicopter landings ................ :)
Actually, they were invented by the British during WW2 - look up Tall Boy and especially, Grand Slam, especially the latter. Amazing that a RAF Lancaster could carry a heavier bomb than your MOAB and carry out raids with it against heavy, state-of-the-art, air defences 70 years ago, yet your Trump supporters think that he's a god because he had one chucked out the back of a C-130 against zero air defence :dunno:

As for clearing jungle for helicopter landings, you did a pretty good job with bog-standard napalm and Agent Orange, no? :)

Cheers
Hughmac
Edited by Hughmac, Apr 15 2017, 07:20 AM.
H4T wrote: lobal] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies.
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Hughmac
Apr 15 2017, 05:03 AM
Siberian
Apr 15 2017, 04:02 AM
The US boasts that its GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb (MOAB), known as the ‘Mother of all bombs’, is the largest ever non-nuclear bomb used in combat but, don’t be fooled, Russia possess something far superior. Kids, meet Daddy.

https://www.rt.com/viral/384743-moab-russia-father-bomb/
Interesting article, Mr Tundra :tongue:

Saw an excellent documentary on the Soviet MIR, which predated the International Space Station and paved the way for long-term space stays. Indeed, without the Soviet experience and knowledge, the ISS would not have been possible.

It is sad, in a way, that in exchange for American funding of the Russian space programme, after the collapse of the USSR, Moscow had to hand over, lock, stock and barrel, this priceless knowledge.

In fact, it is a little like the British being left no other alternative but to hand over, free of charge, all its scientific advancement to the USA, who were lacking in these fields (radar, etc) in exchange for war aid.

Cheers
Hughmac
No, Siberia is not Tundra, but Taiga - unpassable forests and greatest rivers, any of each is bigger than all European rivers combined :) Just imagine, the width of river Lena lower of city Yakutsk is 10 km... :)
Siberia looks like this -
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I hope I'll manage to travel to Southern Siberia in a couple of years, to "Old faith" orthodox christians + kossak village my grandfather is from....
Yes, collapse of USSR led to lots of sad things, most people in post-soviet countries regret it. Britts will also regret Brexit, by the way. Not because it is bad, I view it as a consecuence rather than a cause of any troubles, but people will tie future hard times to it more than to debt pyramid, for example, or general economic decline.
Goood morning GULAG!!!
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Why does the U.S. give its weapons of mass destruction-friendly names?
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Hughmac
Apr 15 2017, 07:17 AM
Robert Stout
Apr 15 2017, 07:01 AM
These gas bombs were invented by the USA during the Vietnam war, to clear jungles for helicopter landings ................ :)
Actually, they were invented by the British during WW2 - look up Tall Boy and especially, Grand Slam, especially the latter. Amazing that a RAF Lancaster could carry a heavier bomb than your MOAB and carry out raids with it against heavy, state-of-the-art, air defences 70 years ago, yet your Trump supporters think that he's a god because he had one chucked out the back of a C-130 against zero air defence :dunno:

As for clearing jungle for helicopter landings, you did a pretty good job with bog-standard napalm and Agent Orange, no? :)

Cheers
Hughmac
You are confusing primitive TNT bombs with gas dispersal bombs which are then ignited.....More blast for less weight and cost............ :biggrin:
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Siberian
Apr 15 2017, 04:02 AM
The US boasts that its GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb (MOAB), known as the ‘Mother of all bombs’, is the largest ever non-nuclear bomb used in combat but, don’t be fooled, Russia possess something far superior. Kids, meet Daddy.

https://www.rt.com/viral/384743-moab-russia-father-bomb/
Great, as close as you can get to a nuclear bomb without being guilty of a nuclear attack. :oyvey
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Robert Stout
Apr 15 2017, 11:25 PM
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Apr 15 2017, 07:17 AM
Robert Stout
Apr 15 2017, 07:01 AM
These gas bombs were invented by the USA during the Vietnam war, to clear jungles for helicopter landings ................ :)
Actually, they were invented by the British during WW2 - look up Tall Boy and especially, Grand Slam, especially the latter. Amazing that a RAF Lancaster could carry a heavier bomb than your MOAB and carry out raids with it against heavy, state-of-the-art, air defences 70 years ago, yet your Trump supporters think that he's a god because he had one chucked out the back of a C-130 against zero air defence :dunno:

As for clearing jungle for helicopter landings, you did a pretty good job with bog-standard napalm and Agent Orange, no? :)

Cheers
Hughmac
You are confusing primitive TNT bombs with gas dispersal bombs which are then ignited.....More blast for less weight and cost............ :biggrin:
If anyone's an expert on the effects Gas Dispersal Bombs it would be our esteemed colleague Mr. Stout.

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Remember what Roy Schneider alias Martin Brody in Jaws 1 said, "we need a bigger boat"
Well it looks like we need a bigger bomb?
Regardless of the Obarmy era.
Our guys aren't stupid, "dah we didn't know"?.
I would bet that we already have one.
Edited by The Inquisitor, Apr 16 2017, 01:22 AM.
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Hughmac

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Apr 15 2017, 11:25 PM
Hughmac
Apr 15 2017, 07:17 AM
Robert Stout
Apr 15 2017, 07:01 AM
These gas bombs were invented by the USA during the Vietnam war, to clear jungles for helicopter landings ................ :)
Actually, they were invented by the British during WW2 - look up Tall Boy and especially, Grand Slam, especially the latter. Amazing that a RAF Lancaster could carry a heavier bomb than your MOAB and carry out raids with it against heavy, state-of-the-art, air defences 70 years ago, yet your Trump supporters think that he's a god because he had one chucked out the back of a C-130 against zero air defence :dunno:

As for clearing jungle for helicopter landings, you did a pretty good job with bog-standard napalm and Agent Orange, no? :)

Cheers
Hughmac
You are confusing primitive TNT bombs with gas dispersal bombs which are then ignited.....More blast for less weight and cost............ :biggrin:
The Grand Slam was a Mother of All Bombs of its times, but wth a different function as it was a concrete penetration weapon designed to penetrate the armour defence of U-boat pens on the Atlantic coast, therefore its weight; i.e., the casing, was very important more so than its TNT load.

But essentially, you are correct that they were different in design, content and purpose, although both were monster bombs - I believe, in fact, that the Grand Slam actually weighed more that your MOAB - although Imperial an US measures makes comparison confusion.

One more interesting point, both the Germans and the allies used aerial mines; i.e., airburst, which sucked out all of the gasses below it - victims literally had their lungs sucked out, poor sods.

Cheers
Hughmac
Edited by Hughmac, Apr 16 2017, 02:55 AM.
H4T wrote: lobal] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies.
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Siberian
Apr 15 2017, 02:18 PM
Hughmac
Apr 15 2017, 05:03 AM
Siberian
Apr 15 2017, 04:02 AM
The US boasts that its GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb (MOAB), known as the ‘Mother of all bombs’, is the largest ever non-nuclear bomb used in combat but, don’t be fooled, Russia possess something far superior. Kids, meet Daddy.

https://www.rt.com/viral/384743-moab-russia-father-bomb/
Interesting article, Mr Tundra :tongue:

Saw an excellent documentary on the Soviet MIR, which predated the International Space Station and paved the way for long-term space stays. Indeed, without the Soviet experience and knowledge, the ISS would not have been possible.

It is sad, in a way, that in exchange for American funding of the Russian space programme, after the collapse of the USSR, Moscow had to hand over, lock, stock and barrel, this priceless knowledge.

In fact, it is a little like the British being left no other alternative but to hand over, free of charge, all its scientific advancement to the USA, who were lacking in these fields (radar, etc) in exchange for war aid.

Cheers
Hughmac
No, Siberia is not Tundra, but Taiga - unpassable forests and greatest rivers, any of each is bigger than all European rivers combined :) Just imagine, the width of river Lena lower of city Yakutsk is 10 km... :)
Siberia looks like this -
Posted Image
I hope I'll manage to travel to Southern Siberia in a couple of years, to "Old faith" orthodox christians + kossak village my grandfather is from....
Yes, collapse of USSR led to lots of sad things, most people in post-soviet countries regret it. Britts will also regret Brexit, by the way. Not because it is bad, I view it as a consecuence rather than a cause of any troubles, but people will tie future hard times to it more than to debt pyramid, for example, or general economic decline.
Beautiful scenery - hope you get your trip together one day. Mine would be to Trincomolee (India) where my grandfather was born in 1901 (His father was serving in the British Army there).

As to the debt pyramid, would the 'nuclear' solution not work. i.e., the cancellation of all debt; i.e., everybody back to square one?

Cheers
Hughmac
H4T wrote: lobal] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies.
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No, as I strongly believe - laws of economy are laws of phisics. I.e. according to the law of conservation of energy someone will have to catch a moose anyway (in Russian financial slang - moose - лось, los', - loss :) ).
It will be countries which own foreign obligations, first of all those who have US obligations, as well domestic pension funds and all portfolio investors in general.
It's if we assume cancellation of debt will not cause hyperinflation, but it definitely will - in hyperinflation all savings at all nominated in USD or most currencies will be lost. Generally speaking - it will be Kaddafy style situation - he onse proclamed - al bait li sakinihu - the house belongs to who lives in it - and all landlords lost their property, all who rented a house became owners. :)
But the main problem specifucally for the West is that the system is based on constant transfer of wealth - energy, it's a prosess. The US and the West - all who create debt - consume energy from outside, there's disbalance, even if they cancel the debt - they will keep needing it. If the US eliminates Dollar and introduces Amero, for example - China, Russia, Saudia etc. will not manage to make the US pay by force, but will stop accepting Any paper money, the US, UK etc. gold reserves will be depleted very soon and then there will be OPIUM WARS situation, the US and other net importers will have to either make others subsidise the US by force or will start transfer property - and maybe to renegotiate old debts payments or will starve. Anyway Western currencues, especially the Dollar are very much overappreciated, cancellation of debt will re-introduce gold or golden standard in foreign trade and it will cause hyperinflation in all over-printed currencies, - Dollar, Yen, Euro, etc.
So, no, I doubt this option will be considered. I think deliberate hyperinflaton looks more preferrable and possible.
Actually, I suspect Jews who rule the World, i.e. Federal reserve owners are preparing for the situation more or less - US shale revolution is exactly this thing, they manipulated oil prices to finance shale revolution, i.e. deliberately had overpaied for oil for sime time, even raising Russia as a competitor, to get self-sufficiency at least in this vital resourse, i.e. they see what is coming, but generally I attribute it to getting ready to foreign trade collapse due to hyperinflation of Dollar rather than elimination of debt.
I'm afraid I failed to describe the full picture and put it thoroughly, proposing rather conclusions rather than how I got to them, maybe some time later...
Edited by Siberian, Apr 16 2017, 04:21 AM.
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i.e. what for to default on debts if hyperinflation with its gravest consequences as disruption of any trade and burnt savings - is inevitable anyway. It's still an open question to me if the Masters, those who print money - will try to control the process of hyperinflation, i.e. will they start it or will try to just postpone the uncontrolled collapse.
Actually, there are opinions if Lehman Brothers' collapse was a deliberate one, after all they printed and pumped much, much more money into other major banks than was required for Lehman, it could be easilly saved as well...
Anyway, we have plenty of space for conspiracy theories here, there are many 2+2 = ? cases where to put 4 would contradict too much to what is told to us by MSM, tought in universities and we are used to.
Anyway, this game of the Naked king has its limits, Russian central bank is the biggest buyer of gold in the World, Chinese buy much of it too, Germans pull gold reserves back home - so elites are getting ready step by step, not quite visible to challenge the rules of the game, but still.
Edited by Siberian, Apr 16 2017, 05:25 AM.
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