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US Deploys Two More Aircraft Carriers Toward Korean Peninsula: Yonhap
Topic Started: Apr 17 2017, 02:05 PM (815 Views)
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US Deploys Two More Aircraft Carriers Toward Korean Peninsula: Yonhap

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-17/us-deploys-two-more-aircraft-carriers-toward-korean-peninsula-yonhap
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Interesting. If Trump can fix this mess caused by Clinton and Obama, the second term is sealed.
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Apr 17 2017, 08:09 PM
Interesting. If Trump can fix this mess caused by Clinton and Obama, the second term is sealed.
You mean the "not at war " mess?


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CautionaryTales
Apr 17 2017, 08:33 PM
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Apr 17 2017, 08:09 PM
Interesting. If Trump can fix this mess caused by Clinton and Obama, the second term is sealed.
You mean the "not at war " mess?
Nuclear war is preferable to the immigration policies of the past.
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Apr 17 2017, 08:09 PM
mess caused by Clinton and Obama
What mess did they cause? Those two specifically.
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nNeo
Apr 17 2017, 09:21 PM
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Apr 17 2017, 08:09 PM
mess caused by Clinton and Obama
What mess did they cause? Those two specifically.
Clinton was urged by both parties to take out Kim Jong Il when he was in office. Instead, he rewarded them because Kim Jong promised to behave.
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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How do you "take out" the leader of N.Korea without starting a war that will devastate S. Korea and very possibly result in the use of nuclear weapons?

The fact is that Trump is continuing Obama's policies of engaging China because it is the right and only option.

He is also continuing Obama's policies in the ME

And vocally saying his is doing "something new" but we have learned you cannot believe what he says
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Well, something new may be happening, but it has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with advanced U.S. technologies designed to stop ballistic missiles seconds after launch. That involves either advanced cyber warfare and/or ship or spaceborne weapons grade lasers.
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Whatever goes wrong - don't forget to blame Russians :lol:
By the way, it seems Democrats are most natural Trumpists - where is all that Russiagate talk now? You can't change your opinion on Russiagate as often as Trump changes his opinion on everything without becoming little Trumpies... :lol:
he's more a Democratic president than of Republucans. Not sure about Russians - we're the most consistent ones... :)
Edited by Siberian, Apr 18 2017, 01:54 AM.
Goood morning GULAG!!!
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Apr 18 2017, 01:52 AM
Whatever goes wrong - don't forget to blame Russians :lol:
By the way, it seems Democrats are most natural Trumpists - where is all that Russiagate talk now? You can't change your opinion on Russiagate as often as Trump changes his opinion on everything without becoming little Trumpies... :lol:
he's more a Democratic president than of Republucans. Not sure about Russians - we're the most consistent ones... :)
We are still focused on Russiagate even in the face of Trump's wag-the-dog tactic. We can multi-task
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As I pointed out on George's Corner (http://unitedstates.com/topic/10162128/2/#new) a moment ago, the depiction of the confrontation between the USA and PRNK as a contest of wills between the nominal leaders of the respective nations is a propaganda trick. It has emotional appeal to the uninformed, especially those who prefer to use national policy as a TV drama with which, in the words of Aristotle, to purge themselves of pity and terror.
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nNeo

So Clinton and Obama were wrong not to start a war with NK, but Bush gets a pass. Got it, thanks.
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Apr 17 2017, 11:51 PM
How do you "take out" the leader of N.Korea without starting a war that will devastate S. Korea and very possibly result in the use of nuclear weapons?

The fact is that Trump is continuing Obama's policies of engaging China because it is the right and only option.

He is also continuing Obama's policies in the ME

And vocally saying his is doing "something new" but we have learned you cannot believe what he says
You probably missed the 59 Tomahawks and one MOAB. Both of which were not used by Obama. He had them. Did not use them. Their global impact put Trump ahead of any recent PotUS since Teddy Roosevelt. "Speak softly and carry a big stick". Now three carriers and a fleet on it way to North Korea. Clinton? Obama? Neither had the nads for it. So what are you talking about?
Edited by peewee, Apr 18 2017, 11:02 AM.
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Apr 18 2017, 11:01 AM
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Apr 17 2017, 11:51 PM
How do you "take out" the leader of N.Korea without starting a war that will devastate S. Korea and very possibly result in the use of nuclear weapons?

The fact is that Trump is continuing Obama's policies of engaging China because it is the right and only option.

He is also continuing Obama's policies in the ME

And vocally saying his is doing "something new" but we have learned you cannot believe what he says
You probably missed the 59 Tomahawks and one MOAB. Both of which were not used by Obama. He had them. Did not use them. Their global impact put Trump ahead of any recent PotUS since Teddy Roosevelt. "Speak softly and carry a big stick". Now three carriers and a fleet on it way to North Korea. Clinton? Obama? Neither had the nads for it. So what are you talking about?
Trump hasn't used them yet and I doubt he will. About the only place he has put sane people in his administration is in defense and national security. It is why he has turned back to the Chinese.

The MOAB is not going to be used in N. Korea because their air defense systems are too dense. You can shoot Tomahawks but they are not timely enough or accurate enough to be used to assassinate one person. One of the past Presidents tried that in Libya and it didn't work. What you will get is tens of thousands of artillery pieces lobbing shells into S. Korea and at US forces there. That is why he won't do it.
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Apr 18 2017, 11:01 AM
You probably missed the 59 Tomahawks and one MOAB. Both of which were not used by Obama. He had them. Did not use them.
59 Tomahawks accomplished nothing. Literally, nothing of value. The MOAB may or may not have been tactically as effective as the other weapons used by Obama and Bush. Generally it's an inefficient thing to deploy, and certainly not of potential use against North Korea.

NK is not a question of "nads". Clinton, Obama, and the Bushes (who you some of you seem to be willfully forgetting) were not psychotic enough to risk the lives of millions of civilians by starting a war. I doubt that Trump will either.

The solution to the Korean problem is diplomatic and economic, not military.
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The solution to the Korean problem is diplomatic and economic, not military.
True as far as it goes. In the larger sense, there is no solution to the PRNK problem because both Koreas are pawn in the US vs China chess game. There is no PRNK problem outside of that global context.

US-China relations are improving and have been throughout the Obama years. Trump has given up on his ignorant campaign bullsh!t about China manipulating its currency and "raping' the US with cheap labor exports. China came to agreement about revaluing the luan during the Obama administration. The flood of cheap Chinese manufactures was a creation of Republican "free trade" policies carried out by US corporations.

China's economic growth has passed through a stormy adolescence and is being carefully adjusted by the Chinese Communist Party to meed the changing demands of today's China. It would be really great if our own government were as skillful and as concerned about the welfare of its people as the CCP has shown itself to be.
Edited by George Aligator, Apr 18 2017, 12:37 PM.
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Apr 18 2017, 02:12 PM
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Nice tie Donald, the factory that made it is across town ...
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Apr 18 2017, 12:36 PM
The solution to the Korean problem is diplomatic and economic, not military.
True as far as it goes. In the larger sense, there is no solution to the PRNK problem because both Koreas are pawn in the US vs China chess game. There is no PRNK problem outside of that global context.

US-China relations are improving and have been throughout the Obama years. Trump has given up on his ignorant campaign bullsh!t about China manipulating its currency and "raping' the US with cheap labor exports. China came to agreement about revaluing the luan during the Obama administration. The flood of cheap Chinese manufactures was a creation of Republican "free trade" policies carried out by US corporations.

China's economic growth has passed through a stormy adolescence and is being carefully adjusted by the Chinese Communist Party to meed the changing demands of today's China. It would be really great if our own government were as skillful and as concerned about the welfare of its people as the CCP has shown itself to be.
Trump is demonstratively burying the UN, nor even bothering himself to search for excuse to attack a sovereign state, a croud of slaves and servants of the US applaud.
The law of jungles plus permanent decline of the US and the West in general means we are heading to the war, since the UN as a way of compromising peacefully does not work any more.

The US as usually launch a boomerang not thinking 2 steps ahead... And these slaves will become the first battlefield :)

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Edited by Siberian, Apr 18 2017, 02:54 PM.
Goood morning GULAG!!!
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Obviously no Trump nor anyone can turn the general pace of Hustory back. America will not be great again, you see the chart, the trend is decades long and will not change for quite long, for decades for sure. As well Trump cannot and should not be solely blamed for future misery and failures of the US foreign policy (and in domestic affairs too). During his campaign he correctly emphasises domestic affairs as the most important ones since it is domestic decline which make the US fail abroad.
But Democrats with their Russiagate forced Trump to address foreign affairs first - all US presidents use mini victorous wars to improve their image at home.
The problem is this is hardly to solve his and general US problems at home, as well there's good chance for making everything even worse. Even if he suddenly succeeds and Korea postpones nuclear tests - then what? :)
Anyway, Democrats think they set up Trump, but they as well may bury the US. Trump also does everything to destabilize everything.
Isn't it great? :)
Edited by Siberian, Apr 18 2017, 03:19 PM.
Goood morning GULAG!!!
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