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| Pope Francis’s Communist Mentor; Why this Pope is so different from all the rest | |
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| Opinionated | May 4 2017, 12:15 PM Post #21 |
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But isn't Christianity, in it's pure form anyway, pretty much communism? It's all about helping the underprivileged, caring for the sick, and providing for those who cannot provide for themselves? It pretty much seems to embody the whole, "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need," with the major difference being that it is a belief in God that is the motivation rather than a belief in the ideology of communism. |
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| W A Mozart | May 4 2017, 12:36 PM Post #22 |
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Oh Puhleaze! There is a vast difference between a full-blown communist (which might include, you... ) and a "sympathizer." Pope Francis may be a sympathizer, but is certainly not a communist. The definition of a "communist sympathizer" is one who doesn't necessarily agree with all the tenants of its philosophy, but kinda agrees with some of their ideas. "Spreading the wealth" sounds like a great idea until you get to the part of confiscation. "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" sounds cool, so long as you don't consider that that idea led to the slaughter of 125 million people in the 20th century.Pope Francis is a dilettante. He is an ill-educated street priest from Argentina. He is not a communist, but is surely a glossy-eyed sympathizer. Mozart Edited by W A Mozart, May 4 2017, 12:36 PM.
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| Robert Stout | May 5 2017, 02:59 AM Post #23 |
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Pope Frances and Che are old remnants of Catholic Liberation Theology............
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| Che On The Rocks | May 5 2017, 04:59 AM Post #24 |
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No. Pope Francis doesn't support the Liberation Theology. |
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Free Milagro Sala! What happened to Santiago Maldonado? What happened to ARA San Juan? Mapuche Lives Matter! Stop the political persecution in Argentina! Stop the looting of Argentina! | |
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| Che On The Rocks | May 5 2017, 05:16 AM Post #25 |
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No, that is Haiti. Or Irak. Or Afghanistan. Countries xxxxed by your Gods. Poor of us. So far of our Gods, so close to God-Emperor Trump's United States... Say, didn't Archangel McCarthy ask that? Yup. Archangel McCarthy asked and judged that.
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| Che On The Rocks | May 5 2017, 05:23 AM Post #26 |
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Trump to meet pope May 24 in potentially awkward encounter
FILE PHOTO A combination of file photos shows Donald Trump (L) speaking to the Veterans of Foreign Wars conference at a campaign event in Charlotte, North Carolina, U.S., July 26, 2016, and Pope Francis looking on during his Wednesday general audience at Saint Peter's Square at the Vatican March 19, 2014. REUTERS/Carlo Allegri/Stefano Rellandini/File Photos God-Emperor El Donaldo: "The Pope? How many approval points has he got?"
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| Siberian | May 5 2017, 06:39 AM Post #27 |
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I'm going to visit Vatican this summer, these bastards made quite a collection of treasures while serving god and caring for human souls... |
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| W A Mozart | May 5 2017, 11:31 AM Post #28 |
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Yes, that will be quite an interesting get-together. From what I've read, there's quite a bit of friction between the Pope and his various Cardinals. There is also a very deep and bitter divide between he and the ex German Pope. I don't dislike this Pope, he means well, but I just have no respect for him as an intellect. He's just way in over his head. Furthermore, he caused enormous political damage in Venezuela when he demanded negotiations between Maduro and the opposition, when the opposition was well on its way to getting a constitutionally mandated recall election in place. It was a horrible decision by this Pontiff. A lot of suffering and needless violence was caused as a result. A thoroughly discombobulated Pope.... Mozart Edited by W A Mozart, May 5 2017, 11:32 AM.
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| Robert Stout | May 5 2017, 02:58 PM Post #29 |
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At least that is what he told the Junta Generals................
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| nNeo | May 5 2017, 11:29 PM Post #30 |
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People sure like him. http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-35892917/pope-francis-worlds-most-popular-leader |
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| Che On The Rocks | May 6 2017, 05:54 AM Post #31 |
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Yes, you do. If not, you would not have started this thread. Pope Francis is a Jesuit. If you believe that he is an "ill-educated street priest from Argentina", that speaks more about you than him. And here it is. The REAL reason of why you don't like Pope Francis: Because he doesn't act like you want in the Venezuelan crisis. So, the only advice that i can give you is: get ordered Cardinal and elect a new Pope. Or change of religion. Oh, and for your information: Wed Nov 6, 2013 Capriles seeks papal mediation in Venezuela politics
Henrique Capriles, Venezuela's opposition leader and governor of Miranda state, attends a news conference at a hotel in Santiago July 19, 2013. REUTERS/Ivan Alvarado Pope Francis didn't called to the Venezuelan opposition. They called him, in the first place.
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| Che On The Rocks | May 6 2017, 05:59 AM Post #32 |
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By God! Wolfgang is transforming me in a curato, tragaostias, chupacirios! MIRACLE OF THE LORD!
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| George Aligator | May 6 2017, 09:48 AM Post #33 |
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That ^^^ is an excellent summary of the historical roots of Christian social teaching. The kink in the theory comes from the fact that Jesus was not a Christian, that the organization which Constantine and his successors established as the official religion of the Roman Empire acknowledged the social teachings of the Galilean rabbi but did nothing to implement them. Charity has never been the government's obligation. The Jesuit order in Latin America has taken a quite different view in recent years, asserting that Christians in a Christian nation cannot have a government that ignores the fundamental teachings of Jesus in regard to the poor. Needless to say, this is a profoundly unsettling doctrine to the oligarchies of such Christian nations -- including the USA -- who have always taken comfort in the idea of charity as a voluntary ("I gave at the office") private matter. |
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| Robert Stout | May 6 2017, 11:17 PM Post #34 |
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The Social Gospel was a protestant movement, popular with liberal clergy, that arose during the progressive movement of the early 1900s.....It is barely alive today except among wild eyed do-gooders or agnostic Unitarians....The Catholic Church did not participate except for their short term bout of Liberation Theology in the 1970s and 1980s...Some Christians have tended to put words in Jesus' mouth.................. :oyvey |
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| W A Mozart | May 7 2017, 09:09 AM Post #35 |
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What every "communist sympathizer" should know, including Pope Francis, but does not.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUGkKKAogDs Mozart |
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| W A Mozart | May 7 2017, 09:51 AM Post #36 |
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A future Venezuelan short stop for the Dodgers catching tear gas canisters.....
https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2017/05/07/whos-coming-everyone-right/ Mozart |
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| W A Mozart | May 7 2017, 10:02 AM Post #37 |
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Today there is a women's march in Caracas. https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2017/05/07/womens-march/ And what do the Venezuelans think about Pope Francis....? "While Pope Francis sent a letter to the Venezuelan Episcopal Conference asking the Church to mediate in the conflict we’re going through without condemning government violence,..." "....without condemning government violence." A dilettante. Mozart |
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| George Aligator | May 7 2017, 10:14 AM Post #38 |
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Pope Francis is a dilettante. He is an ill-educated street priest from Argentina. He is not a communist, but is surely a glossy-eyed sympathizer. Sometimes the ignorance of a sophisticated, cosmopolitan guy like Mozart is startling. Pope Frances holds several advanced degrees. He studied abroad in Germany for years. He was head of the Society of Jesus in Argentina, an order not known for lack of education. He taught not only theology but literature and history at the undergraduate and graduate level at several colleges and universities and was top administrator in a couple of them. He has published a dozen books and countless articles. Really, herr Mozart, you look like a fool. Stop it. |
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| W A Mozart | May 7 2017, 11:20 AM Post #39 |
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Do you not understand the difference between "ill-educated" and "not educated?"
All of this is reminiscent of another ill-educated man, Neville Chamberlain. Climbing the stairs to Berchtesgaden didn't give the world any respite from the Nazi's, it only made things worse. Pope Francis not only "entertained" the idea of the meaningless drivel of communst/socialist rhetoric, he "accepted" its silly premises as well. A sincere fool thrust upon the world stage. An ill-educated man in a position of power with little understanding of evil. Just today he came out with a truly silly observation on naming a bomb. This, this is what he figures is important? If so, the world is in for a lot of hurt. Just witness Venezuela and their suffering.
Really? I mean, really? Mozart Edited by W A Mozart, May 7 2017, 11:23 AM.
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| George Aligator | May 7 2017, 11:28 AM Post #40 |
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Silly ^^^ cop out. Calling a man ill-educated because you disagree with him is just name calling. You can try to engage Francis's ideas if you can cite them. That would be interesting, but the days when you could pontificate (get it?) from your home-made throne and be taken seriously are over. Like Trump, you seem to assume that you are a really smart guy and therefore anyone with whom you disagree must be stupid, or "ill-educated." Unimpressive. |
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) and a "sympathizer." Pope Francis may be a sympathizer, but is certainly not a communist. The definition of a "communist sympathizer" is one who doesn't necessarily agree with all the tenants of its philosophy, but kinda agrees with some of their ideas. "Spreading the wealth" sounds like a great idea until you get to the part of confiscation. "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" sounds cool, so long as you don't consider that that idea led to the slaughter of 125 million people in the 20th century.

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