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Lots of tough talk for a war they cannot win
Topic Started: Jun 12 2017, 02:53 AM (977 Views)
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ringotuna
Jun 12 2017, 08:40 PM
Adolph Hipster
Jun 12 2017, 07:17 PM
dr345
Jun 12 2017, 07:14 PM
ringotuna
Jun 12 2017, 06:45 AM
Who cares? They made their choice.
Their families, friends and loved ones.
He doesn't really believe that Tik. He's just looking for attention.
I am a libertarian, Yo.
un jour on se souviendra de ca comme on se souvient de ca
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Sometimes opiates are required. I know what my wife went through, the level of pain that she experienced was inhumane. A couple of dozen surgeries and enough metal and screws in her knees, spine and shoulder to construct a small passenger plane and not out of the woods yet.

So on this end we understand a physical dependency of long term usage. Its coming out the other end where the differences occur. First the strength of my wife and her revulsion of the medication - why folks do it for fun is past any capacity to understand. (Stuff makes her feel awful). Second and vital - a physician that doesn't walk away or just cut off medicine after surgery because its "supposed" to be over. It's not. Third - a strong support group at her side, in this case, me! Fourth - Medicinal Cannabis!

Sometimes a dependency is just going to be the result of treatment. That's fine. You do what you have to do at the time. How however that patient is regarded and worked with following an incident will create the difference between a patient and a drug addict with a condition that has gotten out of their control.



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Coast2coast
Jun 12 2017, 09:03 PM
Sometimes opiates are required. I know what my wife went through, the level of pain that she experienced was inhumane. A couple of dozen surgeries and enough metal and screws in her knees, spine and shoulder to construct a small passenger plane and not out of the woods yet.

So on this end we understand a physical dependency of long term usage. Its coming out the other end where the differences occur. First the strength of my wife and her revulsion of the medication - why folks do it for fun is past any capacity to understand. (Stuff makes her feel awful). Second and vital - a physician that doesn't walk away or just cut off medicine after surgery because its "supposed" to be over. It's not. Third - a strong support group at her side, in this case, me! Fourth - Medicinal Cannabis!

Sometimes a dependency is just going to be the result of treatment. That's fine. You do what you have to do at the time. How however that patient is regarded and worked with following an incident will create the difference between a patient and a drug addict with a condition that has gotten out of their control.



I feel for ya brah...my Mom has been battling a debilitating disease for the last 30 years...one probably similar to you wife's where you record your daily pain on a scale of 1-10....Mom literally went almost 4 years with a pain of 8-10 all while on morphine....

During that time I would not have been shocked if I got a call where she ended it....

Like you for your wife, my dad has been a rock star and thankfully as they get up there in age his health has still allowed him to be the primary care giver...

Certainly an inspiration.

Mom has since been blessed to be a part of some truly cutting edge treatments overseas, and most recently a brand new trial treatment that in the last two years has brought her pain scale down to 3-5...a major quality of life game changer.

This has allowed them to come visit our stateside abode for the first time in years...something that produced a lot of tears and eternally grateful.

"We are only immortal for a limited time."

Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence.
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Jun 12 2017, 10:47 PM
Coast2coast
Jun 12 2017, 09:03 PM
Sometimes opiates are required. I know what my wife went through, the level of pain that she experienced was inhumane. A couple of dozen surgeries and enough metal and screws in her knees, spine and shoulder to construct a small passenger plane and not out of the woods yet.

So on this end we understand a physical dependency of long term usage. Its coming out the other end where the differences occur. First the strength of my wife and her revulsion of the medication - why folks do it for fun is past any capacity to understand. (Stuff makes her feel awful). Second and vital - a physician that doesn't walk away or just cut off medicine after surgery because its "supposed" to be over. It's not. Third - a strong support group at her side, in this case, me! Fourth - Medicinal Cannabis!

Sometimes a dependency is just going to be the result of treatment. That's fine. You do what you have to do at the time. How however that patient is regarded and worked with following an incident will create the difference between a patient and a drug addict with a condition that has gotten out of their control.



I feel for ya brah...my Mom has been battling a debilitating disease for the last 30 years...one probably similar to you wife's where you record your daily pain on a scale of 1-10....Mom literally went almost 4 years with a pain of 8-10 all while on morphine....

During that time I would not have been shocked if I got a call where she ended it....

Like you for your wife, my dad has been a rock star and thankfully as they get up there in age his health has still allowed him to be the primary care giver...

Certainly an inspiration.

Mom has since been blessed to be a part of some truly cutting edge treatments overseas, and most recently a brand new trial treatment that in the last two years has brought her pain scale down to 3-5...a major quality of life game changer.

This has allowed them to come visit our stateside abode for the first time in years...something that produced a lot of tears and eternally grateful.

"We are only immortal for a limited time."

I am having a similar experiences as my mother's caregiver
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Jun 12 2017, 11:09 PM
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Jun 12 2017, 10:47 PM
Coast2coast
Jun 12 2017, 09:03 PM
Sometimes opiates are required. I know what my wife went through, the level of pain that she experienced was inhumane. A couple of dozen surgeries and enough metal and screws in her knees, spine and shoulder to construct a small passenger plane and not out of the woods yet.

So on this end we understand a physical dependency of long term usage. Its coming out the other end where the differences occur. First the strength of my wife and her revulsion of the medication - why folks do it for fun is past any capacity to understand. (Stuff makes her feel awful). Second and vital - a physician that doesn't walk away or just cut off medicine after surgery because its "supposed" to be over. It's not. Third - a strong support group at her side, in this case, me! Fourth - Medicinal Cannabis!

Sometimes a dependency is just going to be the result of treatment. That's fine. You do what you have to do at the time. How however that patient is regarded and worked with following an incident will create the difference between a patient and a drug addict with a condition that has gotten out of their control.



I feel for ya brah...my Mom has been battling a debilitating disease for the last 30 years...one probably similar to you wife's where you record your daily pain on a scale of 1-10....Mom literally went almost 4 years with a pain of 8-10 all while on morphine....

During that time I would not have been shocked if I got a call where she ended it....

Like you for your wife, my dad has been a rock star and thankfully as they get up there in age his health has still allowed him to be the primary care giver...

Certainly an inspiration.

Mom has since been blessed to be a part of some truly cutting edge treatments overseas, and most recently a brand new trial treatment that in the last two years has brought her pain scale down to 3-5...a major quality of life game changer.

This has allowed them to come visit our stateside abode for the first time in years...something that produced a lot of tears and eternally grateful.

"We are only immortal for a limited time."

I am having a similar experiences as my mother's caregiver
:cheers:
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dr345
Jun 12 2017, 07:25 PM
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Jun 12 2017, 07:17 PM
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Jun 12 2017, 07:14 PM
ringotuna
Jun 12 2017, 06:45 AM
Who cares? They made their choice.
Their families, friends and loved ones.
Throw them in jail like they did the black crack addicts.
If you ever get that giant chip surgically removed from you shoulder?
You will probably be able to see Uranus :oyvey
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Adolescents (12 to 17 years old)

• In 2015, 276,000 adolescents were current nonmedical users of pain reliever, with 122,000 having an addiction to prescription pain relievers.3 • In 2015, an estimated 21,000 adolescents had used heroin in the past year, and an estimated 5,000 were current heroin users. Additionally, an estimated 6,000 adolescents had heroin a heroin use disorder in 2014.3
• People often share their unused pain relievers, unaware of the dangers of nonmedical opioid use. Most adolescents who misuse prescription pain relievers are given them for free by a friend or relative.10
• The prescribing rates for prescription opioids among adolescents and young adults nearly doubled from 1994 to 2007.11

https://www.asam.org/docs/default-source/advocacy/opioid-addiction-disease-facts-figures.pdf
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Jun 12 2017, 11:28 PM
dr345
Jun 12 2017, 07:25 PM
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Jun 12 2017, 07:17 PM
dr345
Jun 12 2017, 07:14 PM
ringotuna
Jun 12 2017, 06:45 AM
Who cares? They made their choice.
Their families, friends and loved ones.
Throw them in jail like they did the black crack addicts.
If you ever get that giant chip surgically removed from you shoulder?
You will probably be able to see Uranus :oyvey
Is there going to come a time when you actually contribute something besides ignorant snark to this forum, or is this the best ya got?

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Jun 12 2017, 09:03 PM
Sometimes opiates are required. I know what my wife went through, the level of pain that she experienced was inhumane. A couple of dozen surgeries and enough metal and screws in her knees, spine and shoulder to construct a small passenger plane and not out of the woods yet.

So on this end we understand a physical dependency of long term usage. Its coming out the other end where the differences occur. First the strength of my wife and her revulsion of the medication - why folks do it for fun is past any capacity to understand. (Stuff makes her feel awful). Second and vital - a physician that doesn't walk away or just cut off medicine after surgery because its "supposed" to be over. It's not. Third - a strong support group at her side, in this case, me! Fourth - Medicinal Cannabis!

Sometimes a dependency is just going to be the result of treatment. That's fine. You do what you have to do at the time. How however that patient is regarded and worked with following an incident will create the difference between a patient and a drug addict with a condition that has gotten out of their control.



:cheers: :love:
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