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Scientists Blame ‘Climate Change’ For Thick Sea Ice That Halted Arctic Expedition; You just can't make this stuff up...
Topic Started: Jun 15 2017, 08:25 PM (2,994 Views)
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Robert Stout
Jun 22 2017, 06:49 AM
nNeo
Jun 22 2017, 06:39 AM
Robert Stout
Jun 22 2017, 01:34 AM
North America used to be part of a much larger continent....How long do you expect these trends to take effect ?
LOL, you're comparing a process that took 80 million years to one that is being observed in a couple of human lifetimes.
My grandfather, my father, and I denied the climate was changing......... :tongue:
My family is smart and perceptive...They won't notice any change in climate for at least 300 years, and it will be just as likely be a mini Ice Age.......... :booboo:
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Kuwait swelters in 54C heat – what could be the highest temperature ever recorded on earth

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/kuwait-swelters-record-breaking-54c-heatwave-weather-7152911.html
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Adolph Hipster
Jun 23 2017, 12:02 PM
Kuwait swelters in 54C heat – what could be the highest temperature ever recorded on earth

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/kuwait-swelters-record-breaking-54c-heatwave-weather-7152911.html
^^^Fake News

Pretty sure my grill was hotter than that last night....
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Hughmac

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Jun 22 2017, 06:12 PM
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Look, I've tried to explain and I am not going to type it all out again for you, so do yourself a favour and read:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_thermohaline_circulation

Cheers
Hughmac


I did.

Not impressed.

First, there is this statement:
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Lohmann and Dima 2010 found a weakening of the AMOC since the late 1930s


So, this has nothing to do with global warming. Nada, bupkis. (CO2 rates dramatically increased in the 1950's)

Second, there is this:
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A study published in 2016 found further evidence for a considerable impact from sea level rise for the U.S. East Coast. The study confirms earlier research findings which identified the region as a hotspot for rising seas,


Complete gibberish. There has been NO global sea level rise outside of the very, very gradual sea level rise that has taken place for the past two or three centuries. We come back to the 'what if' nonsense.

Third, there is this:
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1)Climate scientists Michael Mann of Penn State and Stefan Rahmstorf from the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (Mann of the now infamous "hockey stick" graph. 2) James Hansen and Makiko Sato stated.... (Hansen is the biggest loon out there on climate science, not even NASA wants this nutcase back)


These two guys? Really? When I read that both Hansen and Mann were behind this study, alarm bells go off. '0' credibility.

AMOC may in fact have some merit in the context that climate is ALWAYS changing, and that Gulf Stream circulations may have modified over the years (since 1930), but this has nothing to do with the global warming argument.

Scotland may be getting a bit chillier in the future, but that only means that the value of Scottish woolen sweaters will go up! :)

Mozart




Mozzie, do you understand the consequences of a Thermohaline-Circulation Shutdown. It's a simple yes or no response. You can argue about what may cause it or better said whether human activity can, or even whether it is likely - no problem. I just want you to acknowledge that such an event is possible.

Do you agree that the inevitable increase of low-density water (fresh) from Arctic ice-melt would have a disastrous effect on Norway, Ireland & Scotland, amongst others. You may disagree that the Arctic ice is NOT disappearing, but that is not the question, I'm talking about if it is.

Cheers
Hughmac
Edited by Hughmac, Jun 23 2017, 02:42 PM.
H4T wrote: lobal] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies.
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" Study Finds Temperature Adjustments Account For ‘Nearly All Of The Warming’ In Climate Data"


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A new study found adjustments made to global surface temperature readings by scientists in recent years “are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data.”

“Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published GAST data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever – despite current claims of record setting warming,” according to a study published June 27 by two scientists and a veteran statistician.

The peer-reviewed study tried to validate current surface temperature datasets managed by NASA, NOAA and the UK’s Met Office, all of which make adjustments to raw thermometer readings. Skeptics of man-made global warming have criticized the adjustments.

Climate scientists often apply adjustments to surface temperature thermometers to account for “biases” in the data. The new study doesn’t question the adjustments themselves but notes nearly all of them increase the warming trend.

Basically, “cyclical pattern in the earlier reported data has very nearly been ‘adjusted’ out” of temperature readings taken from weather stations, buoys, ships and other sources.


1) http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/05/exclusive-study-finds-temperature-adjustments-account-for-nearly-all-of-the-warming-in-climate-data/

2) https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/ef-gast-data-research-report-062717.pdf

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Jun 18 2017, 08:46 PM
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Jun 17 2017, 02:40 PM
"But muh' narrati....."
Yeah..having this explained does derail your train.
Oh I certainly think that climate change is happening, and that a yet undetermined percentage of that change is caused by human industry and transportation.

I just think that having tax loving bureaucrats, keynesians and SJWs as the leaders of your movement is about the dumbest thing anyone can do for a cause.
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"July 4, 2017 : (Greenland) Coldest July Temperature Ever Recorded In The Northern Hemisphere"

https://realclimatescience.com/2017/07/latest-from-the-greenland-meltdown/

This from the "far" left-wing at 'realclimatscience'..... :lol: Even they can't hide it anymore.... :lol:


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Greenland just set the record for coldest July temperature ever reported in the Northern Hemisphere at -33C.


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Jun 23 2017, 12:32 PM
Adolph Hipster
Jun 23 2017, 12:02 PM
Kuwait swelters in 54C heat – what could be the highest temperature ever recorded on earth

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/kuwait-swelters-record-breaking-54c-heatwave-weather-7152911.html
^^^Fake News

Pretty sure my grill was hotter than that last night....
Do you even try to add anything productive to the conversation?

It wasn't hot with record high temperatures in Kuwait (during summer), that's fake news. / S

According to you facts that can be confirmed are "fake" because you don't like their source or they show your opinion is incorrect. You don't address the facts, you attack the source. That is a logical fallacy, please keep your ignorance to yourself.

Its pretty sure that any grill (turned on) will be hotter than the outdoor temperature anywhere on Earth.
Ever notice the only 2 people Trump refuses to speak ill of are Stormy Daniels and Vladimir Putin?
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Jul 6 2017, 11:35 AM
"July 4, 2017 : (Greenland) Coldest July Temperature Ever Recorded In The Northern Hemisphere"

https://realclimatescience.com/2017/07/latest-from-the-greenland-meltdown/

This from the "far" left-wing at 'realclimatscience'..... :lol: Even they can't hide it anymore.... :lol:


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Greenland just set the record for coldest July temperature ever reported in the Northern Hemisphere at -33C.


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Mozart
3....2.....1..... "It's Climate Change caused by Global Warming....."


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nNeo

Jesus, Wallace & D’Aleo again? Those guys are making nice bank telling people that up is down.

“Strong people don’t need strong leaders.”
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nNeo

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Jul 6 2017, 09:54 PM
It's Climate Change caused by Global Warming
Most likely it's just weather.

Record low temps happen. So do record highs. Were climate stable, they'd happen about equally often. That's no longer the case. We're seeing high temp records broken far more often than low.
Edited by nNeo, Jul 6 2017, 11:54 PM.
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I expect that you will call the mini Ice Age, "weather"........... :confused:
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Robert Stout
Jul 7 2017, 05:31 AM
I expect that you will call the mini Ice Age, "weather".
I expect we'll both have been dead for centuries before there's anything vaguely resembling a "mini ice age".
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Jul 6 2017, 11:25 AM
" Study Finds Temperature Adjustments Account For ‘Nearly All Of The Warming’ In Climate Data"


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A new study found adjustments made to global surface temperature readings by scientists in recent years “are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data.”

“Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published GAST data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever – despite current claims of record setting warming,” according to a study published June 27 by two scientists and a veteran statistician.

The peer-reviewed study tried to validate current surface temperature datasets managed by NASA, NOAA and the UK’s Met Office, all of which make adjustments to raw thermometer readings. Skeptics of man-made global warming have criticized the adjustments.

Climate scientists often apply adjustments to surface temperature thermometers to account for “biases” in the data. The new study doesn’t question the adjustments themselves but notes nearly all of them increase the warming trend.

Basically, “cyclical pattern in the earlier reported data has very nearly been ‘adjusted’ out” of temperature readings taken from weather stations, buoys, ships and other sources.


1) http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/05/exclusive-study-finds-temperature-adjustments-account-for-nearly-all-of-the-warming-in-climate-data/

2) https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/ef-gast-data-research-report-062717.pdf

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Mozart
I noted NO comments on this story, one of the biggest to hit the global warming scam in decades...

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Skew the data....Garbage in, garbage out.....Careers in politics and climate science are made that way............... :oyvey
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwviDPo4Rh4


:)


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Yeah, you're going to find lots of people willing to view a 20 minute video and take notes in order to research and refute the no doubt skewed opinion of the author ...
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nNeo
Jul 6 2017, 11:53 PM
Robertr2000
Jul 6 2017, 09:54 PM
It's Climate Change caused by Global Warming
Most likely it's just weather.

Record low temps happen. So do record highs. Were climate stable, they'd happen about equally often. That's no longer the case. We're seeing high temp records broken far more often than low.
No, you are incorrect.
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http://www.climatesignals.org/data/record-high-temps-vs-record-low-temps
http://www.climatecentral.org/gallery/graphics/record-highs-vs-record-lows
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/11/161121174251.htm
https://www2.ucar.edu/atmosnews/news/1036/record-high-temperatures-far-outpace-record-lows-across-us
https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2016/11/21/us-record-high-temperatures-overwhelm-record-lows/94234824/
Edited by nNeo, Jul 17 2017, 11:43 AM.
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Jul 6 2017, 11:53 PM
Jesus, Wallace & D’Aleo again? Those guys are making nice bank telling people that up is down.

So they are Al Gore wannabes....

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